Australian Workers' Union, The v Tassal  
Operations Pty Ltd [2022] FWC 1215 (11 July 2022)  
Last Updated: 12 July 2022  
[2022] FWC 1215  
FAIR WORK COMMISSION  
DECISION  
Fair Work Act 2009  
s.238 - Application for a scope order  
Australian Workers' Union, The  
v
Tassal Operations Pty Ltd  
(B2022/76)  
DEPUTY PRESIDENT BELL MELBOURNE, 11 JULY 2022  
Application for a scope order.  
Background  
[1] Tassal Operations Pty Ltd (Tassal) is part of the Tassal group, which is a vertically  
integrated seafood producer with substantial operations in Tasmania. The Tassal  
Operations Pty Ltd (Marine Operation) Enterprise Agreement 2017 (2017 Agreement)  
covers a subset of its employees in Tasmania. Bargaining for a new enterprise agreement  
to replace the 2017 Agreement was commenced by Tassal on 5 August 2021.  
[2] The applicant, the Australian Workers’ Union (AWU), through its Tasmania Branch,  
is a bargaining representative in the current round of bargaining. The AWU has applied  
under s.238 of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Act) for a ‘scope order’ in relation to a cohort of  
employees variously called ‘Feed Technicians’ or ‘feeders’ or ‘farm attendants’. The  
disputed group employees are employed to work at Tassal’s centralised ‘Feed Centre’,  
located at level 8 in the Marine Board Building, Hobart. The Feed Technicians total  
approximately 20 in number.  
[3] There are a number of other bargaining representatives, who relevantly include two  
Feed Technicians. While the other bargaining representatives were not party to the  
AWU’s application, none opposed it and the two Feed Technician bargaining  
representatives actively supported it and appeared as witnesses called by the AWU.  
[4] The outcome sought by the proposed scope order sought would be that any  
enterprise agreement made in relation to the Feed Technicians would only cover that  
cohort of employees. Tassal opposes the application.  
[5] Sections 238(1) and (3) specify various matters about when a bargaining  
representative may apply for a scope order. Those matters were not in dispute and I am  
satisfied they are met.  
[6] There was also no dispute that the AWU had met, and was meeting, the good faith  
bargaining requirements: s.238(4)(a). The principles for the interpretation for s.238  
were largely not in dispute but, rather, it was the application of those principles that was  
in issue. The applicable principles are described further below.  
[7] The AWU filed statements for five witnesses and Tassal for three. There was very  
little challenge to either party’s evidence. Only one witness was required for cross-  
examination and that cross-examination was confined.  
[8] In addition to the witness evidence, I also undertook an inspection, in the presence  
of the parties. The inspection was on the application of the AWU. The inspection was  
conducted on the morning of the hearing of the matter. The two facilities I was asked to  
inspect were, in this order, the Feed Technician Centre in Hobart and then a salmon  
fishery farm located near Margate, whose beach-point access was approximately 30  
minutes’ drive from Hobart. I describe various observations about the inspection below.  
The AWU submitted that the purpose of the inspection was to assist the Commission  
with understanding the evidence which is before it, including seeing for myself the  
workplaces described in the evidence so that that would assist me with the evidence  
before me. I accept that the inspections assisted that purpose.  
[9] Tassal’s business includes the spawning, breeding, harvesting and processing of  
salmon in Tasmania through the operation of hatcheries, farms, boats and processing  
facilities. Tassal has a premises in Lidcombe, NSW, used for processing and sales.  
[10] The parties provided a simplified map showing various locations for aspects of  
Tassal operations in Tasmania. The head office is located in Hobart. There are two  
hatchery locations: one is located inland near Russell Falls, which is approximately  
about 70km from the head office, roughly to the west. The other hatchery is on the  
western side of Huonville, Tasmania, which is roughly 40km southwest from the Hobart  
head office.  
[11] Tassal has processing operations in Huonville, Dover and Margate. Dover is  
approximately 40km directly south of Huonville. Tassal’s Margate location is about  
20km south of Hobart. The distances I’ve described so far are by road. The exact  
distances are not material but are intended to convey in broad terms the various  
locations.  
[12] Tassal’s marine operations – i.e farms - on the eastern side of Tasmania are  
described as the ‘Southern Zone’, ‘Channel Zone’, ‘Eastern Zone’, and ‘Okehampton’.  
Save for Okehampton, all of these are located in coastal waters roughly aligned between  
Margate (at the northern reaches) and Dover (to the south). Okehampton is located near  
Okehampton Bay, which is approximately 100km northeast of Hobart. Tassal also has  
marine operations located at Macquarie Bay, which is on the west coast of Tasmania.  
[13] Tassal’s business in Tasmania incorporates approximately 1015 employees across a  
range of functions. The ‘marine operations’ employees for whom the current bargaining  
dispute is relevant total approximately 252 in number. There is some dispute as to  
whether the Feed Technicians, who total around 20, are strictly covered by the 2017  
Agreement. The AWU contend that this cohort are not covered. Although this is not a  
matter I need to resolve, I address it further below having regard to how the parties put  
their cases.  
[14] The salmon ‘farms’ are located in coastal waters known as leases. The lease defines  
the area in which the farms are permitted to be located. The sizes of the leases vary. The  
leases are generally marked out at their extremities by marker buoys. Leases are  
regularly inspected and audited to ensure compliance with lease terms.  
[15] Travel to and from a farm is by boat. The farm I inspected was near Margate, which  
was also the location of the beach access point for the boat. Other than perhaps being  
selected because it was more sheltered than other farms on the day and its relative  
proximity to Hobart, there was no suggestion that farm I inspected was materially  
atypical of other farms in Tassal’s marine operations. Boat travel between the shore and  
the farm was, for the farm I inspected, about 15 minutes each way. Other farms have  
longer travel times.  
[16] The farm I inspected had about eight ‘pens’ and a feed ‘barge’. The pens are the  
netted cylinders in which the growing salmon are kept. Figure 1 is a photograph of a pen  
contained in the 2017 Agreement.  
Figure 1  
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[17] There is mesh fencing at the pen surface, which is in part to keep salmon within but  
also to keep predators (typically, seals) out. There are two standard sizes of pens – 80m  
and 120m – measured by the circumference at the surface. The circumference at the  
surface has a walkway for access. While the top of the pen floats at surface level, the  
entire pens are anchored to keep their location fixed. The depth of a pen is about 17m.  
Pens also have lighting. Artificial light is an important tool used to control the growth of  
fish and maturation.  
[18] A grouping of pens is serviced by a feed barge. Like the pens, the barges are  
anchored to a fixed location. The barge I saw at my inspection was about 20m in length  
and about 4m wide at its widest point. On top of the barge were hoppers, where feed for  
the salmon is delivered. A critical function of the barges is to distribute the feed via large  
polytubing pipes running from the barge to each individual pen. The feed is delivered  
through the feed pipes by compressed air (the machinery being located on the barge).  
[19] The summary above oversimplifies, and significantly understates the sophistication  
of, Tassal’s marine operations but it provides useful context for the evidence of the  
witnesses regarding the Feed Technicians’ work. That evidence was in part directed at  
what the Feed Technicians currently perform, but also by reference to changes in that  
role over time.  
[20] The AWU’s witnesses included four Feed Technicians and an officer of the AWU,  
Mr Danny Mundey.  
[21] Clarissa Murphy and Edon O’Dwyer gave evidence for the AWU. The evidence of  
Ms Murphy and Mr O’Dwyer is substantially similar – in parts, identical - albeit in  
respect of their “crews”. The reference to “crews” is to the fact that the (approximately)  
twenty Feed Centre employees are divided into two teams or crews of ten, who work on  
alternative rotational rosters. Over the roster pattern, if one crew is working, the other is  
rostered off. Work in the Feed Centre occurs seven days a week, during daytime hours,  
although hours vary upon daylight availability.  
[22] Ms Murphy and Mr O’Dwyer gave evidence about how the role of feeders changed  
from an ‘On Farm Feeder’ role to the current role of Feed Technician. Much of their  
evidence about historical matters involved matters occurring before they were employed  
and they did not directly observe themselves. The evidence was based (as both witnesses  
acknowledged) on discussions with other crew members. Noting that their evidence was  
substantially supported by two other crew members who gave evidence – Brendon  
McGee and Max Lockley – who were employed during much of the historical period  
described and that Tassal’s witness, Luke Cordwell, largely agreed with that evidence, I  
accept it. The following summary is primarily from the evidence of the Feed Technicians  
Mr McGee and Mr Lockley.  
[23] Historically, delivering feed to the pens was performed by a feeder operating a  
vessel/boat. The vessel sizes varied. A smaller vessel might hold about 1 tonne of feed,  
others had up to a 5 or 6 tonne capacity. Later, the capacity increased to 7 – 8 tonnes.  
The feed was fish feed pallets, which were loaded at the shore before a feeder would  
travel to the pens. The feeder would control the vessel.  
[24] Feed from these types of boats was delivered by either a water cannon or (as  
became established practice over time) an air blower. To ensure the correct amount of  
feed was delivered, a feeder would lower a camera into the pen. By various attachments,  
the camera could be moved. For feeding purposes, the camera was lowered to a  
designated depth, usually 7 meters. The camera would then transmit to a black and  
white TV monitor on the vessel. Feeders were instructed to feed the pellets until pellets  
could be observed falling to the location of the camera. It was considered that if pellets  
could be observed at that depth, the fish had received enough feed.  
[25] At that time, each vessel had one feeder, who was responsible for the operation and  
some maintenance of the vessel, as well as feeding. Each vessel would travel from pen to  
pen, undertaking feed on one pen at a time. Each pen was fed three times a day, with  
smolt (i.e. young salmon) being fed five to six times a day.  
[26] After a time, the feeder vessels were replaced by barges. The exact time barges were  
introduced is unclear but Mr Lockley’s evidence indicates it was around 2011. The exact  
time is not material and it appears they were also introduced over time. A feeder would  
now travel between the shore and a barge by boat.  
[27] The barges could hold substantially more feed pellets, taking up to 100 tonnes of  
feed. The distribution of feed to the pens from barges by pipes and compressed air is  
described above.  
[28] The use of barges also meant that two pens could be fed at the same time. There  
were also now two cameras for each pen – one on the surface to observe feed  
distribution occurring at the surface level and one under water to observe feeding  
activity. A computer on the barge operated by the feeder controlled the feeding and  
associated cameras, under the direction of the feeders.  
[29] During this period, feeders were also responsible for some maintenance, upkeep  
and troubleshooting of feed equipment. As Mr McGee noted, this included repairing  
pipes, cleaning cameras, maintaining the feed system components used for feeding the  
stock, maintaining fuel levels and some maintenance checks. Mr McGee also stated that  
feeders undertook algae sampling and monitored dissolved oxygen levels in the pens, as  
well as removing seals from pens that had gained access. Feeders would report damage  
to farm infrastructure to team leaders.  
[30] Feeding from the barges was assisted by computers. Mr McGee explained that the  
computer program on the barges triggered a number of alarms where faults or problems  
within the feeding system were identified and needed to be fixed by feeders. These  
included the positioning of pipes, lubrication, feed distributors and thermal overload.  
[31] During the period when feeders worked from the barges, a ‘feed sheet’ was  
manually filled in and lodged at the site office at the end of each day, which recorded  
how much feed had been fed in each pen.  
[32] Before describing the current role of the Feed Technicians, it is useful to provide  
some detail about other employees covered by the 2017 Agreement. The 2017 Agreement  
describes ‘Farm Attendants’, ‘Night Watch / Stock Protection Officers’, and ‘Skilled  
Operators’ at various levels. The organisational charts in evidence described them as  
‘Farm Attendants’ and ‘Divers’. The work of these two groups – Farm Attendants and  
Divers – is primarily physically located at the farm pens and leases. Some of the  
witnesses also described ‘Farm Attendants’ to mean feeders (prior to their centralisation  
in the Feed Technician Centre). The Farm Attendants were also described by Tassal and  
the AWU as the ‘works crew’ and for convenience and to avoid inadvertent confusion, I  
will use the term ‘works crew’ to distinguish that group of employees from either the  
Feed Technicians or divers.  
[33] The works crews are primarily responsible for the upkeep and maintenance of the  
marine operations infrastructure, such as vessels and the fish farms. For example, if a  
feeding pipe is not fully sealed (i.e. it is losing pressure), they might weld it. They are  
also involved in ‘bathing’ fish.  
[34] Bathing of the fish was described as a ‘critical’ activity. It was explained to me on  
the inspection of the pens that this involves removing fish from a pen into a specialised  
marine vessel – the specific vessel for that purpose is called the ‘Aqua Spa’ – where the  
fish will be able to swim in fresh (i.e. unsalted) water for about 2 hours. If the fish are  
not bathed, they can develop amoebic gill disease or ‘AGD’. Severe cases of AGD can lead  
to fish death, while milder cases can cause feeding to be compromised. The Aqua Spa  
vessel is also used for transporting fish from nurseries to the pens and to and from the  
pens for a range of other reasons.  
[35] The divers are relied upon by Tassal to support the works crew in performing  
upkeep and maintenance on fish farm infrastructure. Among other matters, the divers  
inspect the condition of the pens. Divers also inspect the bottom of the pen nets for  
waste feed – if waste feed is found on the bottom of the nets, that information is given to  
the Feed Technicians. In addition, divers also retrieve fish mortalities – known as ‘morts’  
– from a pen.  
[36] For the feeders, a change to centralised feeding occurred in the first half of 2018. In  
Mr McGee’s case, he was transferred from the Shepard’s Point lease location (i.e. the  
Eastern Zone) to the Feed Technician Centre in Hobart. Mr Lockly also transferred from  
his location near Dover to the Feed Technician Centre. The changes saw the number of  
feeders – all now located at the Feed Technician Centre – reduce from around 65 to 20.  
When describing the feeders since they were relocated to the Feed Technician Centre, I  
refer to them as Feed Technicians for clarity although it appears the terms are used  
somewhat interchangeably.  
[37] The Feed Technician Centre occupies a discrete area of the floor in which it is  
located in Hobart. It is an office environment. It was not in dispute, and is clearly  
correct, that the technology available in the Feed Technician Centre is significantly more  
advanced than the ‘on farm’ technology used before the introduction of remote,  
centralised feeding.  
[38] The Feed Technicians have desks called ‘feed stations’ – akin to control stations –  
facing an array of about 11 large, high-definition monitors. At any given time, one or  
more monitors in the array will typically show a live stream camera feed from cameras  
located in the fish pens. The direction of the cameras is controlled from the Feed  
Technician Centre. The camera technology is used for varying functions but includes  
visual inspection of feed pellets during feeding time, inspection of the pen and net  
conditions, viewing fish activity, and the identification of ‘morts’.  
[39] The cameras in the pens are more dynamic than previous versions, in the sense  
that they can be remotely moved to different areas in the pens than was previously the  
case. There are now also cameras mounted on the feed barges. The cameras can also be  
used to view other infrastructure, such as the feed pipes. The quality of the cameras and  
monitors is significantly advanced from the black and white images feeders initially  
used.  
[40] The array of monitors displays a range of other information, largely under the  
control of the Feed Technicians. This includes outputs from sophisticated computer  
programs used as part of the remote operations. The current technology includes:  
- The programs ‘Feedstation’ and ‘AKVA’, which are programs to ensure the efficient  
feeding of fish in the pens.  
- Monitoring programs such as ‘AMS Cloud’ and ‘Aquacurrent’, which monitor various  
environmental conditions and feed activity.  
- Remote start programs such as ‘DSE’, ‘Core’ and ‘WebSupervisor’, which are used to  
control various functions of the feed barges.  
[41] Some of the programs above overlap in function. It is beyond the scope of the  
witness evidence, but it was explained during the inspection that some of the different  
computer programs in part reflect different stages of technology upgrades and  
integration – i.e some are newer and have improved features. One example explained at  
the inspection at the Feed Technician Centre was the use of artificial intelligence to help  
guide the Feed Technicians in the optimal delivery of feed.  
[42] Feed Technicians can be responsible for up to four leases and twelve or more  
feeding lines simultaneously. Mr Cordwell, who was a Fish Performance Manager and  
gave evidence for Tassal, qualified that evidence and he said that the number of leases  
per feeder ranged from one large stocked lease to four low-stocked leases.  
[43] At the inspection of the Feed Technician Centre, it was explained to me that the  
Feed Technicians have toolbox meetings, in the mornings, where they consider the plans  
for particular farms or pens that they're responsible for feeding that day. These meetings  
allow them to take into account the actual plans in place on a particular farm that day,  
which can impact when they feed their pens.  
[44] An example is the cleaning of the pen nets, which need to be cleaned on a regular  
basis. Farm staff at the pens have schedules for cleaning nets and for the divers to  
inspect the condition of them. Feed Technicians also inspect and ‘score’ the condition of  
the nets. If the net condition is affecting feeding, the cleaning schedule at the pens might  
be changed.  
[45] Another example will be ‘bathing’ schedules. Fish need to fast for a period of time  
before bathing. The Feed Technicians follow the bathing plans – set by the central well-  
boat team – to ensure fasting times are met.  
[46] At the start of each shift, the Feed Technicians conduct pressure tests on the pipes  
used in the feedlines to the pens to identify any faults and to ensure structural integrity  
of the feedlines.  
[47] Also at the beginning of each shift, Feed Technicians monitor ‘mort’ numbers and  
report those numbers. Occasionally, this might be required three to four times a day. At  
the inspection of the pens, it was also explained to me that the Feed Technicians will  
sometimes indicate to divers which pens to prioritise for removal of ‘morts’, which is  
largely based on numbers.  
[48] Each day, the Feed Technicians check the integrity of the lights on the pens (when  
lights are in use) to ensure they are operational.  
[49] Feed Technicians are responsible for the distribution of feed to be delivered to the  
farms. The amount of feed per pen is not determined by the Feed Technicians, however  
the Feed Technicians determine how it is to be distributed based on the volume of feed,  
the type of feed, the number of silos to be filled and the size of the silo.  
[50] The Feed Technicians’ role within the centralised Feed Technician Centre includes  
report writing for ‘mortality, midday and fishtalk’.  
[51] Feed Technicians have direct communications with their farm colleagues (i.e.  
works crew and divers) all day. At the inspection of the Feed Technology Centre, I was  
shown that this included dedicated radio communication and mobile phone.  
Communications were regular, and included communications about issues at the pens  
requiring fixing, such as dirty cameras, seized machinery, broken or faulty or blocked  
pipes, predator activity, or equipment alarms from the feed barges (e.g., the feed  
blowers).  
[52] Mr Tim Stephens gave evidence for Tassal. Mr Stephens has worked at Tassal in  
varying roles since 2010. He is currently ‘Senior Manager – Central Operations’ for  
Tassal, a role he has held since 2019. Organisational charts included with Mr Stephen’s  
evidence show he is part of the ‘Farming Operations’ leadership team. Mr Stephens  
reports to the Head of Aquaculture. Mr Stephens is responsible for ‘Fish Performance &  
Remote Operations’ and ‘Central Operations’.  
[53] Mr Stephens’ direct reports for ‘Fish Performance & Remote Operations’ are two  
Feed Technician Team Leaders (i.e. the team leaders for the two Feed Technician crews)  
and the Fish Performance Manager, Mr Luke Cordwell. The Feed Technicians primarily  
report directly to their respective Feed Technician Team Leader. An organisation chart  
for ‘Fish Performance & Remote Operations’ showed two direct reports to Mr Cordwell.  
[54] Mr Stephens explained in his oral evidence that the organisational chart for ‘Fish  
Performance & Remote Operations’ did not include a feed analyst reporting to Mr  
Cordwell, which he said it should have included. He also explained that two of the Feed  
Technicians reported to Mr Cordwell in part. The latter arrangement was the subject of  
some cross-examination, but that reporting arrangement related to two Feed  
Technicians who perform ‘night security’ work outside of standard hours. They are still  
acting as Feed Technicians when doing night security, working from their stations,  
monitoring the fish and the environment and the security of the farms. But during that  
time, they report directly to Mr Cordwell if there are matters arising that needed his  
attention.  
[55] Mr Stephens’ direct reports for ‘Central Operations’ are five ‘Fish Performance  
Managers’ – two for ‘Day’, two for ‘Night’ and one for ‘Central Operations’. The ‘Day’  
Fish Performance managers each have a ‘Dive Team Leader’ and ‘Ops Team Leader’  
reporting to them and, a level below them, the ‘Divers’ and ‘Farm Attendants’. The  
‘Night’ Fish Performance managers each have an ‘Ops Team Leader’ reporting to them  
and, a level below them, ‘Farm Attendants’. The ‘Central Operations’ Fish Performance  
Manager has two direct reports titled ‘Integrated Rating (Aqua Spa)’.  
[56] Mr Stephens explained in oral evidence that ‘Central Operations’ refers to the Aqua  
Spa bathing operations. The Aqua Spa vessel is described above. Mr Stephens described  
the Aqua Spas as a charter vessel moving around to all the sites. To facilitate those  
operations, Tassal has a centralised team of people that also move around all those sites.  
He described each of the managers as overseeing a section of their teams.  
[57] The witnesses for each party gave evidence about changes to the role of the Feed  
Technicians following the centralisation of the feeders to the Feed Technology Centre.  
The forensic focus of much of this evidence from the Applicant was, presumably, to show  
that whatever the historical position of the feeders was regarding their geographical,  
operational or organisational distinctness, that position changed following the  
establishment of the Feed Technology Centre. I would state again that much of that  
evidence was largely not in contest – and some was plainly self-evident - although there  
were degrees of nuance between parties regarding the significance of the changes.  
[58] The applicant’s witnesses had collaboratively prepared a document showing  
various changes between the role of feeders when historically located at the farms and  
the role of Feed Technicians as now located at the Feed Technology Centre. The  
comparison document had nine headings, being: “Lease Responsibilities (per feeder)”;  
“Administrative duties”; “Equipment”; “Work Hours”; “Skills Required”; “Upskilling  
Available”; “Covid”; “Additional Duties”; and “Cross-department/company  
Collaboration”. Each heading contained a number of dot-points describing matters  
relating to them for when work was at the “Farm” and when at the “Feed Centre”.  
[59] The comparison document was qualified in various respects by Tassal’s witnesses.  
The Tassal witnesses did not add new headings but rather they added extra dot-points  
(primarily to the tasks in the “Farm” column that were listed in the “Feed Centre”  
column.) No witness was cross-examined on the document by either party.  
[60] I note some of the differences identified by the comparator document (as qualified  
by Tassal’s witnesses) were:  
- In relation to hours, the evidence in the comparator document was that rostered hours  
have not changed between farm feeding and central feeding. There were some changes  
to the activities within the spread of rostered hours. During on-farm feeding, travel time  
(site to barge) was included in the work hours. There is no longer an ability to join work  
BBQs on site.  
- There were differences in options for upskilling. Prior to the centralisation of the  
feeding function, these options included a Certificate III in basic fish husbandry, ‘tickets’  
for mobile cranes, radio and fork lifts. Courses were available for ‘seal deterrence’ and in  
‘algae’. None of these are applicable at the Feed Centre.  
- There were particular matters at the Feed Centre related to Covid. Although in respect  
of these matters, Tassal correctly notes that management of Covid did not present as a  
problem prior to June 2018.  
- There were differences in additional duties. Feed Technicians no longer perform seal  
and bird removal from pens, nor do they feed pens from a boat or by hand. Additional  
duties at both locations included feed trial maintenance and software trials.  
- There were some differences regarding cross-department/company collaboration,  
although they do not appear to be significant and neither party specifically addressed me  
on them.  
[61] Separate to the comparator document, the witness statements appeared to identify  
the more salient aspects of the changes. Mr Lockley described various changes to the  
Feed Technicians’ roles in 2018 that he perceived. A key change emphasised by Mr  
Lockley – and other AWU witnesses - was the change in physical location and  
environment. This was variously described as a change from working in a “natural  
environment” – i.e. on boats and barges, and working physically at the fish pens – to  
working in an indoor “built environment”, namely in an office environment. The office  
environment was located in Hobart, as opposed to being at one of the various ‘zone’  
locations described above. Self-evidently, these are clearly changes and Tassal did not  
suggest to the contrary.  
[62] Other changes identified included the operation of boats, cranes and forklifts –  
these were all tasks formerly undertaken but none of which are performed in the Feed  
Technology Centre. Other functions no longer performed include algae  
collection/identification, and barge maintenance.  
[63] Functions that have been added, and the skills required for them, are increased use  
of computer programs, reading fish behaviour, multi-tasking, and time and feed  
management. There is little doubt that increases in technology (including various  
computer programs) has occurred. A qualification to this evidence was that some of the  
feeding programs were in use when feeders were located at the farms – examples are  
‘Feedstation’ and ‘AKVA’. I also accept Tassal’s evidence that many of the technology  
changes would have been introduced whether the feeders stayed physically at the farms  
or were relocated to a central location, although how quickly and to what extent is less  
clear.  
[64] I have noted the changes to the number of feeders (from about 65 to 20) and  
responsibilities of leases and feed lines per feeder above. It follows that the evidence  
given by the AWU witnesses that Feed Technicians now carry more responsibility for the  
number of fish being fed at any point in time is correct. I do accept, however, the  
qualification by Tassal regarding the increased level of responsibility for the numbers of  
fish being fed at any one time as being due to improved technological advancements.  
[65] Other aspects of the evidence were, with respect, more in the nature of opinion  
evidence or outright submission about legal conclusions. For example, each party led  
evidence from witnesses that explained why or why not that witness considered the Feed  
Technicians to be “operationally” part of the farm crew physically at the farm pens.  
Similarly, there was evidence about witnesses’ understanding of what the term “on farm”  
meant, as that term appears in the definition of “Marine Operations” in the 2017  
Agreement. I find those aspects of the parties’ evidence to be of limited assistance,  
although I had regard to underlying facts supporting a witness’ opinion (where those  
facts were stated) and to which facts were said to support particular legal conclusions.  
[66] The parties gave evidence about the progress and content of the bargaining  
between the parties. Most of that evidence was largely unchallenged either way, with two  
exceptions I describe below.  
[67] Mr Mundey gave an overview of various enterprise agreements with Tassal  
involving the AWU. He identified five enterprise agreements with Tassal’s “processing”  
business and two enterprise agreements for its “farming” business (which included the  
2017 Agreement). Neither party considered it necessary to address the specifics of those  
enterprise agreements, save for the 2017 Agreement, and I proceed on the basis they are  
not material other than they show that enterprise agreements for different operational  
or geographic locations exist.  
[68] Mr Mundey gave evidence about steps taken in bargaining for a new enterprise  
agreement to replace the 2017 Agreement. Relevantly, Mr Mundey gave evidence to the  
effect that since the first bargaining meeting on 6 September 2021 and consistently  
since, employees in the Feed Centre had expressed their wish to pursue a separate  
enterprise agreement specific to their circumstances. His evidence included  
correspondence to Tassal setting out various grounds as to why Tassal ought to have a  
discrete enterprise agreement for the feeders. I accept that evidence, which was not  
controversial, as do I accept that Tassal had consistently stated that it would not agree to  
a separate enterprise agreement of that kind and that, in Tassal’s view, a discrete feeders  
agreement was not appropriate. Given that communications between the parties during  
bargaining substantially reflected the positions of the parties before the Commission  
(which I describe in detail below), it is not necessary to set it out here.  
[69] In respect of the 2017 Agreement, Mr Mundey gave evidence as to why, in his view,  
the 2017 Agreement did not apply to the work activities of the Feed Technicians. This  
concerns one of the ‘disputed’ categories of evidence about bargaining I foreshadowed  
above.  
[70] Ms Murphy and Mr O’Dwyer were both bargaining representatives for their  
respective crews. Their evidence in that respect was that the Feed Technicians wanted to  
bargain for their own enterprise agreement, separate from the divers and works crew. It  
was not in dispute that the Feed Technicians have been seeking their own enterprise  
agreement since around September 2021, noting that bargaining was commenced by  
Tassal in August 2021. In addition to that claim, the Feed Technicians’ log of claims  
includes a fifteen percent pay increase, a parking allowance, mobile phone  
reimbursement, set seasonal rostering, a 4.25 percent per year wage increase, and a new  
level 5 classification. The initial log of claims by the AWU also stated that the Feed  
Technicians wanted a separate agreement. Other claims in the AWU log of claims  
included wage increases of 4 percent per year, matters about rostering, matters about  
overtime, some changes to how certain allowances were paid (in particular divers’  
allowances) and claims for additional allowances, among a number of other matters.  
[71] It is unnecessary to rehearse the cut and thrust of the bargaining. There are matters  
Tassal agreed to, such as a Feed Technologist classification and a level 5 classification.  
There are matters it has rejected. There have been revisions to previously stated  
positions throughout bargaining.  
[72] Tassal has consistently rejected the fifteen percent pay claim. Tassal has also  
consistently rejected any claim for a separate enterprise agreement solely with Feed  
Technicians. In this respect, Tassal’s points out (and it was the case) that the 2017  
Agreement was voted on after the feeders had been relocated to the Feed Technician  
Centre. Tassal says those arrangements have worked well and are unnecessary to  
change. The AWU submissions note that the F17 declaration accompanying the  
application to approve the 2017 Agreement showed that there were 240 eligible  
employees entitled to vote for that agreement, of whom 196 voted and 188 of those votes  
were in favour of the agreement.  
[73] On 21 April 2022, Tassal’s position included offers for revised meal allowances,  
annual pay increases (essentially at 3 percent per annum) and other matters it believed  
were largely agreed to by that point. Tassal put a proposed agreement to the vote. Mr  
Burles, in a supplementary statement, gave evidence that he understood he had an in-  
principle agreement with the AWU on his latest offer. The position was in fact more  
nuanced and this is the other disputed category of evidence I foreshadowed. Mr Mundey  
gave supplementary oral evidence, which I accept, to the effect that the AWU’s position  
was not an agreement, but was that the AWU’s position would be informed by feedback  
from members.  
[74] By about 6 May 2022, Mr Mundey had spoken to a number of members. As a  
result, the AWU issued a flyer by around 9 May 2022 that urged “Tassal Marine  
Operators: VOTE NO”. Five matters were listed in support of a ‘no’ vote, being the  
proposed wage increase was too low, the proposed cap on the dive allowance should be  
changed, the fuel reimbursement was too low, the proposed overnight allowance was not  
what was asked for, and that a 4-year agreement was too long.  
[75] A vote was held on 12 May 2022. Of the 247 employees eligible to vote, 92.7% cast a  
vote. Of those, 65% voted no and 35% voted yes.  
[76] Sections 238(4) and (4A) of the Act set out when the Commission “may” make a  
scope order and what “is” be taken into account. Those sections are as follows:  
When the FWC may make scope order  
(4) The FWC may make the scope order if the FWC is satisfied:  
(a) that the bargaining representative who made the application has met, or is  
meeting, the good faith bargaining requirements; and  
(b) that making the order will promote the fair and efficient conduct of bargaining;  
and  
(c) that the group of employees who will be covered by the agreement proposed to be specified  
in the scope order was fairly chosen; and  
(d) it is reasonable in all the circumstances to make the order.  
Matters which the FWC must take into account  
(4A) If the agreement proposed to be specified in the scope order will not cover all of the  
employees of the employer or employers covered by the agreement, the FWC must, in deciding  
for the purposes of paragraph (4)(c) whether the group of employees who will be covered was  
fairly chosen, take into account whether the group is geographically, operationally or  
organisationally distinct.  
[77] The parties drew attention to various decisions that have considered the factors  
relevant to s.238(4) and (4A). A number of those decisions were common to both  
parties. As a general observation, there was not a significant degree of difference  
between the parties but, rather, the differences were more in the nature of which aspects  
to emphasise and the application of the principles to the present dispute. As noted  
above, there was no dispute that s.238(4)(a) was satisfied. As the proposed agreement  
does not cover “all” Tassal employees, s.238(4A) was engaged.  
[78] For s.238(4)(b), the Full Bench in United Firefighters' Union of Australia v  
Metropolitan Fire & Emergency Services Board [2010] FWAFB 3009 (UFUA v MFESB)  
stated at [55]:  
“The relevant consideration under s.238(4)(b) is whether the order will promote the fair and  
efficient conduct of bargaining. The implication is that the tribunal should be satisfied that if  
an order is made the bargaining will at least be fairer or more efficient or both than it would be  
if no order were to be made.”  
[79] In AMWU & Ors v Shinagawa Refractories Australasia Pty Ltd [2011] FWA 5935,  
Sams DP stated to similar effect that it was necessary to consider “the current state of  
the negotiations and the reasons why the proposed order would promote fair and  
efficient bargaining.” In that matter, the state of bargaining was described as a  
“stalemate”: at [26].  
[80] The AWU stated that where a minority of employees might have their terms and  
conditions “overwhelmed” by those employees in the majority, that tends against being  
fair or efficient. Reliance was made on Stadium Australia Operations Pty Ltd t/a ANZ  
Stadium re ANZ Stadium Casual Employees Enterprise Agreement 2009 [2010] FWAA  
3758 at [35]:  
“The real remedy for a subgroup of employees, such as the customer service employees in this  
case, who perceive themselves to be unfairly disadvantaged by a proposed agreement, is for  
one or more of their bargaining representatives to seek a scope order under s.238. Such an  
order can be sought if bargaining is “proceeding... unfairly” because “the agreement... will  
cover employees that it is not appropriate for the agreement to cover”.”  
[81] The AWU drew attention to similar observations made in Australian Salaried  
Medical Officers Federation v Commonwealth of Australia as represented by the  
Department of Human Services [2011] FWA 5920 at [24].  
1. Reliance was placed by the AWU on The Australian Workers' Union v BP Refinery  
(Kwinana) Pty Ltd [2014] FWCFB 1476 (AWU v Kwinana) at [31], that “prima facie”  
weight might be given to the views of employees unless there is good reason otherwise.  
The passage in that decision was located under the heading “Overall exercise of  
discretion under s.238”, having followed the preceding headings respectively addressing  
s.238(4)(b) and s.238(4)(c). It appears from the structure of the decision that the  
discretion referred to was the Commission’s satisfaction of the matters in s.238(4)(d),  
[1]  
being whether it is reasonable in all the circumstances to make the order.  
3. That particular passage in AWU v Kwinana was recently considered by the Full Bench in  
CEPU & ors v Utilities Management Pty Ltd [2022] FWCFB 42 (CEPU v Utilities  
Management). In that latter decision, the majority (Hatcher VP and Bissett C)  
[2]  
[3]  
observed - with whom Colman DP generally agreed on this aspect - that there “are  
(at least potentially) two decision-making steps required under s 238(4).” The first is  
being “satisfied” of the matters in s.238(4)(a) – (d). The second, which is dependent on  
the first step, is the overall discretion signified by the word “may” in the chapeau to  
s.238(4).  
[84] In relation to AWU v Kwinana, the majority in CEPU v Utilities Management  
observed it “arguably went somewhat further” by the statement “the preferences of  
employees as to the appropriate collective should be respected unless there is some good  
reason under the legislation to decide otherwise”, when compared to what was stated by  
the Full Bench in UFUA v MFESB at [53]. At UFUA v MFESB at [53], the Full Bench  
stated:  
“The legislative scheme supports collective bargaining principles and the Fair Work Act  
encourages freedom of association and collective bargaining. It may be implied from the  
legislative scheme that the collective choice of employees is significant. It must be said,  
however, that while weight should be given to the views of the employees potentially affected,  
it may be that a proper consideration of the matters specified in s.238(4) and (4A) in a  
particular case may make it appropriate to make a scope order contrary to the views of the  
employees potentially affected.”  
[85] The majority concluded that it was “sufficient to say for present purposes that the  
required consideration under s 238 of the need to facilitate good faith collective  
bargaining will necessitate giving significant weight to the collective views of employees  
as to their preferred coverage scope”. Colman DP considered that the Commission is  
required to afford the collective views of employees “appropriate” weight, rather than  
“always” significant weight. I do not consider there is necessarily a practical difference  
between the stated positions, as I do not read UFUA v MFESB or s.238(4) as standing  
for the proposition that there is a general rule that the views of employees will always be  
given “significant” weight. The particular weight that ought to be given to those views in  
a particular case will necessarily turn on the circumstances of that case upon a proper  
consideration of the matters specified in s.238(4) and (4A): UFUA v MFESB at [53],  
above. In circumstances, that may well be significant.  
4. However, in relation to the satisfaction of the specific criteria in s.238(4)(b), I do not  
consider that the views of employees, without more, determines consideration of the  
criterion in s.238(4)(b) as submitted and I do not understand the Full Bench in AWU v  
Kwinana to have said otherwise. While the preferences or views of employees may  
inform, in appropriate cases, the assessment of whether bargaining might become more  
“efficient” or “fairer” if the proposed scope order is made, the assessment of whether  
either of those outcomes will be promoted is necessarily a matter for the Commission to  
be satisfied about taking into account any matters relevant to the case at hand. The Full  
[4]  
Bench in AWU v Kwinana gave examples of an impasse in bargaining because of  
scope or demarcation issues where it considered that the views of employees are likely to  
inform the question of whether an order might promote more efficient bargaining. The  
views of the employer might similarly inform that inquiry. (To be clear, the views of  
employees are separately capable of being relevant in s.238(4)(c), s.238(4)(d) or even for  
the overall exercise of discretion required by the word “may” in the chapeau of s.238(4)  
and I also consider them in that context below.)  
6. Dealing next with the criterion in s.238(4)(c) that the proposed group is “fairly chosen”,  
the Full Bench in Cimeco Pty Ltd v Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union &  
Ors [2012] FWAFB 2206 (Cimeco) stated it is relevant that the selection of an  
identifiable group of employees has a degree of objectivity – it is not arbitrary or  
[5]  
subjective or discriminatory. While Cimeco concerned s.186(3) & (3A), I consider the  
same relevant considerations apply to s.238(4)(c) & (4A). The interests of employees to  
be included in the proposed scope are relevant, as are the interests of the excluded  
[6]  
employees and the employer. The interests of the respective parties are likely to be  
informed by the views of the parties.  
[88] In assessing whether the group proposed to be specified in the scope order is  
“fairly chosen”, the Commission is required to “take into account” of the factors set out  
in s.238(4A) where the proposed group does not cover all employees. Those factors are  
whether the group is “geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct”. In  
Cimeco at [19], the Full Bench stated:  
“Given the context and the legislative history it can reasonably be assumed that if the group of  
employees covered by the agreement are geographically, operationally or organisationally  
distinct then that would be a factor telling in favour of a finding that the group of employees  
was fairly chosen. Conversely, if the group of employees covered by the agreement was  
not  
geographically, operationally or organisationally distinct then that would be a factor telling  
against a finding that the group was fairly chosen.” (original emphasis).  
7. The construction of the statute does not give preference to agreements that cover as  
[7]  
much of an enterprise as possible and, correlatively, I consider there is no statutory  
presumption for the reverse.  
[90] The parties drew attention to various cases in the matter before me. It appears the  
principles in them were largely uncontroversial between the parties (although the  
application of those principles was in dispute). Suffice to say, the inquiry is necessarily  
informed by the particular circumstances of the case at hand.  
8. Geographical distinctness is concerned with the geographical separateness of the  
employer's various worksites or work locations, rather than a separation of workplaces  
[8]  
within the same worksite.  
[9]  
10. The term “operational” signifies an “industrial or productive activity”. The fact that  
some employees perform a different role, task or function to that performed by other  
employees is not of itself a sufficient basis upon which a finding of operational  
[10]  
distinctness can be made,  
case.  
although this will be guided by the circumstances of the  
[93] In determining organisational distinctness, the following propositions stated in  
Aerocare Flight Support v TWU & ASU [2017] FWCFB 5826 at paragraph [27] are  
applicable (citations omitted):  
- the term “organisation” refers to the manner in which the employer has organised its  
enterprise in order to conduct its operations;  
- the performance by a group of employees of duties which are qualitatively different  
from duties performed by other employees may justify a conclusion that the group is  
organisationally distinct;  
- however the mere performance by a group of employees of different tasks or roles to  
others may not be sufficient to render it organisationally distinct where the employees  
work in an integrated way with the other employees to perform a particular business  
function; and  
- most businesses have organisation structures which will allow organisationally distinct  
groups to be identified.  
[94] The requirement to “take into account” the factors stated in s.238(4A) does not  
dictate a conclusion from those factors that the proposed group is or is not “fairly  
chosen”. As stated in QGC v AWU at [43] “where the group is not geographically,  
operationally or organisationally distinct, it is necessary to identify what, if any, factors  
outweigh the absence of such characteristics” such that the group might be fairly chosen.  
While those observations were made in the context of an application for a majority  
support determination under s.237, I consider them applicable here. The weight  
ascribed to particular factors will necessarily be informed by the case at hand – in QGC v  
AWU, the absence of geographical, operational or organisational distinctness was  
significant.  
11. As the Full Bench in UFUA v MFESB stated at [55], more than one group may be “fairly  
chosen”. In this respect, the majority in CEPU v Utilities Management noted that while  
competing coverage proposals have been considered “in a number of cases” as a relevant  
matter, the consideration of competing coverage proposals is not a matter to be given  
[11]  
“determinative” weight  
.
[96] Where the group proposed in a scope order application is found to be fairly chosen,  
this suggests some comparison might be appropriate with the group that would exist if  
the application was refused. The Full Bench in UFUA v MFESB noted that s.238(4)(b)  
invites consideration of whether the proposed grouping “at least be fairer or more  
efficient or both than it would be if no order were to be made”. So much necessarily  
follows from the requirement that the proposed order would “promote” the fair and  
efficient conduct of bargaining.  
[97] I similarly consider that the consideration of the proposed group’s “distinctness”  
required by s.238(4A) would ordinarily be assessed against the group that would exist if  
no order were made. It does not follow, however, that the proposed group is not fairly  
chosen because the group that would exist if no order were made is better chosen. As  
stated in UFUA v MFESB, more than one group might be fairly chosen.  
[98] In this sense, the grouping that is more fairly chosen would be a relevant factor to  
be given appropriate weight in the circumstances. If that comparison is not directly  
required – or permitted - by the terms of s.238(4)(c) and (4A), it would appear relevant  
to the assessment of reasonableness in s.238(4)(d) or to the overall discretion  
contemplated in the chapeau to s.238.  
[99] In CEPU v Utiltities Management at [69], it is stated that “No part of s 238(4)(c)  
requires consideration of whether any proposal for coverage of an agreement other than  
that contained in the scope order sought by the applicant is “fairly chosen”.” I do not  
disagree, although I do not consider that statement is intended to convey that competing  
coverage scopes cannot be considered. In many cases, it may be appropriate to do so. If,  
contrary to my understanding of s.238(4)(c), competing coverage scopes are not  
permitted to be considered under s.238(4)(c), they may be relevant under s.238(4)(d).  
12. As to the requirements of s.238(4)(d), the Commission must be satisfied that “it is  
reasonable in all the circumstances to make the order”. What those circumstances are  
will necessarily be dictated by the case at hand. As the majority in CEPU v Utilities  
Management observed, it requires the exercise of a broad discretion, subject only to  
taking into account all the relevant circumstances. The discretion should not be  
conflated with the overall discretion at the second step of the decision-making process.  
[12]  
[101] A relevant circumstance for the inquiry under s.238(4)(d) is likely to be the views  
of employees. As noted above, those views might be afforded significant weight in  
appropriate cases. As noted above, I would also consider the inquiry required by  
s.238(4)(d) might require consideration of competing scopes. An example where this  
might be relevant is where two alternative coverage scopes are primarily in issue – one  
being the subject of the proposed order, the other being the scope proposed by the other  
party under the current bargaining that might remain if there were no order. Where, for  
example, it was found that both proposed scopes were fairly chosen, it might be the case  
that one of the scopes only faintly passed that standard but the other clearly did so,  
possibly on basis that one grouping was far more distinct (geographically, operationally  
or organisationally) than the other.  
[102] There is no dispute that the requirements of s.238(4)(a) were satisfied and I  
accept that the AWU has met, and is meeting, its good faith bargaining requirements.  
[103] Dealing with the requirement that the proposed order will promote the fair and  
efficient conduct of bargaining, the Full Bench in UFUA v MFESB states “the tribunal  
should be satisfied that if an order is made the bargaining will at least be fairer or more  
efficient or both than it would be if no order were to be made”.  
[104] As to the proposed order making bargaining more “efficient”, I do not consider  
this will be the case. Bargaining to date has progressed more or less efficiently, at least  
within the spectrum of bargaining that commonly occurs. As the summary of the  
bargaining evidence indicates, the parties have not yet reached agreement although  
progress is being made. Tassal contends that bargaining for one agreement is “intuitively  
more efficient” than bargaining for two agreements, with the implication being that the  
proposed order would make bargaining less efficient. I express no view on whether  
efficiency of bargaining would be lessened if the order was made but it is sufficient to  
note that I am not satisfied the proposed order will “promote” efficiency. The differences  
on proposed scopes do not appear to me to have caused issues with bargaining such that  
a scope order will promote the efficient conduct of bargaining.  
[105] The question of whether the proposed order will promote the “fair” conduct of  
bargaining raises different considerations, particularly on the applicant’s case. The AWU  
submits that “bargaining on scope is clearly at an impasse”. I accept that submission,  
with one important qualification – while Tassal has no appetite for bargaining on scope,  
I do not consider that bargaining itself is at an impasse. Far from it, and as noted above,  
bargaining is progressing.  
13. The AWU further submitted that the effect of bargaining without the proposed scope  
order will be that the minority’s terms and conditions “may be overwhelmed by the votes  
of those in a majority”, which is unfair. The AWU contends that “where there is a clear  
risk of the tyranny of the majority prejudicing the minority in a proposed agreement, it  
may well be open to FWC to find that if bargaining is proceeding unfairly towards the  
minority this makes it inappropriate that they be covered by the agreement and  
[13]  
appropriate to make a scope order”  
.
[107] In my view, the evidence does not extend so far to satisfy me there is a sufficient  
risk of tyranny of the majority prejudicing the minority. At present, I note that a clear  
majority of employees has rejected the one agreement put to a vote. The Feed  
Technicians did not submit that they wished for that agreement to be approved. The  
most I can infer is that the Feed Technicians opposed the agreement put to the vote. In  
doing so, their opposition (along with others) was successful and I do not consider the  
evidence indicates one group or another being overwhelmed or dominated in that  
outcome. I also do not consider that the evidence, as presented, or the conceptual  
prospect of the Feed Technician’s views being overwhelmed, reaches a level in the  
circumstances that the proposed order will promote the fair conduct of bargaining.  
[108] The AWU also rely on the support of the Feed Technician’s preference for  
bargaining on their proposed scope – a matter that it said should be given “significant”  
weight having regard to AWU v Kwinana at [31]. I do not consider that the views of  
employees, without more, automatically affects consideration of the criterion in  
s.238(4)(b) as submitted and I do not understand the Full Bench in AWU v Kwinana to  
have said otherwise. As noted above, while the preferences or views of employees may  
inform, in appropriate cases, the assessment of whether bargaining might become more  
“efficient” or “fairer” if the proposed scope order is made, the assessment of whether  
either of those outcomes “will” be promoted is necessarily a matter for the Commission  
to be satisfied about taking into account any matters relevant to the case at hand.  
15. Dealing next with the criterion that the proposed group is “fairly chosen”, I accept that  
the AWU selection of an identifiable group of employees has a degree of objectivity – it is  
not arbitrary or subjective or discriminatory – which is a factor supportive of that group  
[14]  
being fairly chosen.  
The interests of employees to be included in the proposed scope  
[15]  
are relevant, as are the interests of the excluded employees and the employer.  
As  
noted, the Feed Technicians support the application. It is less clear what the views of the  
remaining employees are (e.g. works crew and divers), although I am prepared to infer  
from the fact that the AWU – who is a bargaining representative for that group as well –  
is seeking the proposed scope order that the excluded group either support the  
application or at least do not oppose it. These are further factors in favour of the  
proposed group being fairly chosen.  
[110] Where, as is the case here, the proposed grouping will not cover all employees, the  
factors in s.238(4A) “must” be taken into account in determining if the group is fairly  
chosen. Taking into account whether the proposed grouping is geographically,  
operationally or organisationally distinct is not decisive but is a matter to be given due  
[16]  
weight having regard to all other relevant considerations.  
[111] The AWU submits that the location where Feed Technicians Work is  
geographically distinct from the location/s where the remainder of the marine  
operations work is undertaken. The AWU contends that it cannot be said that the work is  
undertaken “on farm” when clearly the location where the work is undertaken is in an  
office building in Hobart.  
[112] Putting aside the dispute about the meaning of “on farm”, there is no dispute that  
the Feed Technicians are in an office environment and no longer on a barge at a farm.  
The AWU describes - correctly - this change as moving from a “natural environment” to  
a “built environment”.  
[113] Tassal point out, with some force, that the marine operations as a whole span  
across various worksites and locations and that the geographic location of the Feed  
Technicians is, and remains, a part of that geographic spread with the Feed Technicians  
now located approximately centrally within it.  
[114] So much may be accepted from both submissions although in the present case, I  
am satisfied there is some level of geographic distinctness arising from the centralisation  
of the Feed Technicians that better favours the AWU’s submission. While Tassal  
correctly states that the other operations staff themselves span worksites and locations  
(which was not a source of complaint in bargaining), there is a different span for Feed  
Technicians and other operational employees. These matters need to be taken into  
account with the operational and organisational distinctness, which I now describe.  
[115] Tassal submits that, as that work could have been retained on a barge  
geographically proximate to the farms, the fact that they were instead located in Hobart  
is of little moment. While that might be conceptually the case, the fact remains that  
those staff are no longer physically located on barges within a farm lease area. The  
hypothetical example proffered of Feed Technicians being located on barges, utilising all  
the current equipment contained in the Feed Technician Centre, has an air of unreality  
about it. One of the critical advantages of the Feed Technician Centre is that it allows a  
greater number of functions to be performed remotely, by fewer people. It was not  
seriously suggested that it was contemplated ever locating that centre on a floating barge  
or barges. Whatever might be the theoretical position of where the Feed Technician’s  
work stations could have been located, the fact remains that the Feed Technician Centre  
is located in Hobart and is not on a barge.  
[116] The AWU also contends that the change in work from a “natural” environment to  
at “built” environment is a relevant factor to distinctness. Tassal disputes that the  
distinction between a “built” or “natural” working environment is relevant to geographic  
distinctness. I am inclined to prefer the AWU’s contention, although that factor is  
perhaps more relevant to showing operational distinctness. In the present case, the  
geographical distinctness of the AWU’s proposed scope is tempered somewhat by the  
fact that Tassal’s marine operations on the east coast of Tasmania themselves span  
hundreds of kilometres, above and below the capital, and a disparate number of marine  
farm locations. Since the centralisation of the Feed Technicians to the Feed Technician  
Centre, the Feed Technicians are more geographically concentrated than was previously  
the case when they were dispersed throughout the farms along with other operational  
staff although it should be recognised that there was some inherent geographic dispersal  
prior to that centralisation.  
[117] Overall, I consider these factors point to a conclusion of some geographic  
distinctness, although I consider this factor is only marginally supportive.  
[118] As to operational distinctness, I find that the Feed Technicians are a highly  
integrated and critical function of the farm operations. This is not simply because they  
control the feeding of the fish in those farms, although that alone is a significant factor.  
[119] The operation of the farms is a carefully managed and sophisticated operation.  
The marine operations of farming salmon are carefully managed at all stages as between  
Feed Technicians, works crew, and the divers.  
[120] The work of the Feed Technicians, works crew, and divers are each impacted by  
the other, and not in a general sense but in a frequent and meaningful way on a daily,  
hourly (and often shorter) basis. The daily work of the Feed Technicians is framed by  
what work is being planned by other crew on the farms. That might be maintenance  
(pipes, nets, pumps, feed distributors, etc). It might be because, on that day, the fish in a  
particular pen or pens are going to be removed (whether for ‘bathing’ or to be relocated.)  
Those plans might change on short notice and this will in turn directly affect the work of  
the Feed Technicians.  
[121] The reverse is also the case. The daily or hourly plans for the divers might change  
if Feed Technicians identify ‘morts’, particularly more than a few, by way of example.  
Other examples might involve identification by Feed Technicians of equipment that  
needs inspection or repair – such as nets or pipes – or even a security issue such as  
breach by a seal. The groups are required to be, and are, in frequent contact with each  
other.  
[122] I have had regard to the changes in the tasks and functions performed by the Feed  
Technicians upon their relocation to the Feed Technician Centre. I accept the AWU’s  
contention that the current role involves a greater use of technology and that there are  
aspects of the role that have otherwise clearly changed (vessel control and some  
maintenance works being obvious examples).  
[123] I have described aspects about the overall operations earlier, including the role of  
the Feed Technicians, but those descriptions do not give justice to the  
interconnectedness of the various aspects of farm operations between the Feed  
Technicians, the works crew and divers. My conclusion on this matter was informed by  
the inspection I undertook with the parties.  
[124] Overall, these matters taken together point very strongly to the conclusion that  
the work of the Feed Technicians, divers and other works crew are a highly integrated  
function of Tassal’s marine operations and their respective roles directly impact on and  
rely upon each other throughout the day.  
[125] Organisationally, Mr Stephen’s evidence is that the Feed Technicians are within  
‘Fish Performance & Remote Operations’. The works crew, divers and Aqua Spa are part  
of ‘Central Operations’. Both groups are under the direct responsibility of Mr Stephens,  
the ‘Senior Manager – Central Operations’, as reporting through various team leaders  
and fish performance managers.  
[126] Mr Stephen’s evidence is that there is a high degree of interconnectivity between  
the work of the Feed Centre and the operations crew on farm sites. While the  
interconnectivity described by Mr Stephens is a factor more relevant to operational  
distinctness, it also indicates an organisational alignment – not distinctness – between  
the Feed Technicians and other operational crew and explains why, organisationally,  
they are all located under Mr Stephen’s area of responsibility.  
[127] Taking into account the factors listed in s.238(4A), I am not satisfied that a  
proposed group of employees confined to Feed Technicians is “fairly chosen”. In the  
present case, in particular, the degree of operational integration between the Feed  
Technicians with other operational crew is of such significance in the present case that it  
outweighs those changes arising from the centralisation of the Feed Technicians to  
Hobart. The limited organisational distinctness supports this conclusion, although I do  
not consider it necessary in the present case. I have considered whether there are other  
factors that would nonetheless militate a different conclusion, such as the Feed  
Technician’s concern that they are a minority (which they are) and that they support the  
application (which they do). I have assumed the excluded group of employees support  
the action. While there is some support by reason of geographical distinctness, I  
consider that support only faintly assists.  
[128] Turning to the factors in s.238(4)(d), there are factors that point each way on the  
question of whether it is reasonable “in all the circumstances” to make the proposed  
order. As noted above, the preference of the affected Feed Technicians is, in particular, a  
factor in support of the application. That factor, together with the other factors that were  
submitted as being in support of the application, do not rise to such a level that, in all the  
circumstances of this application, it is reasonable to make the proposed scope order. In  
the present case, for the reasons set out above, even if I concluded that the AWU’s  
proposed grouping was fairly chosen in the sense described, I remain of the view that the  
grouping currently the subject of bargaining is a far better choice – that is, it is more  
fairly chosen – such that it would still not be reasonable in all the circumstances to make  
the proposed order.  
[129] As I am not satisfied of more than one of the factors in s.238(4)(a) – (d), it follows  
that I cannot make the order as proposed. It is unnecessary to consider the wider  
discretion as to whether I “may” make the order in those circumstances.  
[130] I order that the application be dismissed.  
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Appearances:  
R Flanagan from the The Australian Workers' Union  
S Masters of Edge Legal for Tassal Operations Pty Ltd  
Hearing details:  
2022.  
Hobart:  
Thursday 19 May  
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1. Cf AWU v Kwinana at [43] – [44].  
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9.  
CEPU v Utilities Management at [61].  
CEPU v Utilities Management at [113].  
At [23] and [25].  
Cimeco at [16], [21].  
Cimeco at [21].  
UFUA v MFESB at [56]  
AWU v Kwinana at [13].  
QGC Pty Ltd v Australian Workers’ Union [2017] FWCFB 1165 (QCG) at [44] (QGC  
[3]  
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[5]  
[6]  
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v AWU).  
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QGC v AWU at [44].  
CEPU v Utilities Management at [69].  
CEPU v Utilities Management at [70].  
Cf the AWU relied here on ANZ Stadium Casual Employees Enterprise Agreement  
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2009 [2010] FWAA 3758 at [35].  
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Cimeco at [16], [21].  
Cimeco at [21].  
Cimeco at [20].  
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