STAR TELECOMMUNICATIONS INC
425, 2000-11-13
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                                                     Filed by World Access, Inc.
                           Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
                                        and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
                                          of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

                            Subject Companies: STAR Telecommunications, Inc. and
                                         Communication TeleSystems International
                                               d/b/a WorldxChange Communications
                              Form S-4 Registration Statement File No. 333-37750

                                                                     TelDaFax AG
                              Form S-4 Registration Statement File No. 333-44864

     The following is a transcript of a conference call of World Access, Inc.
held November 9, 2000 with the public. Certain portions of the transcript have
been redacted since the conversations did not relate to or were not in
connection with the pending merger transactions between World Access and each
of STAR Telecommunications, Inc., Communication TeleSystems International d/b/a
WorldxChange Communications, and TelDaFax AG.

Coordinator:      Welcome to the third quarter earnings conference call. All
                  parties will be on listen only until the question and answer
                  session. This conference is being recorded at the request of
                  World Access. If anyone has any objections please disconnect
                  at this time. I would like to introduce your host, Michelle
                  Wolf, Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Wolf, you may
                  begin.

M. Wolf:          Thank you all for joining us this afternoon for our third
                  quarter conference call. I need to read a couple of Safe
                  Harbor type statements before I turn the call over to our
                  chairman and CEO, Jack Phillips. This discussion may contain
                  financial projections or other forward looking statements made
                  pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Securities
                  Reform Act of 1995. Such statements about risks and
                  uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially.

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                  These risks include the ultimate resolution of issues related
                  to consolidated accounting treatments in the world exchange
                  acquisition currently being addressed with the SEC; potential
                  inability to identify, complete and integrate acquisitions;
                  difficulties in expanding into new business activities; delays
                  in new service offerings; the potential termination of certain
                  service agreements or the inability to enter into additional
                  service agreements; and other risks described in the company's
                  SEC filings, including the company's annual report on Form
                  10-K for the year ended December 31, 1999 as amended, the
                  company's quarterly reports on Form 10-Q for the quarters
                  ended March 31, 2000 and June 30, 2000 as amended, and the
                  company's registration statements on Form S-3, including SEC
                  file member 333-79097, and S-4, SEC file numbers 333-37750 and
                  333-44864.

                  World Access and Star have filed a joint proxy statement/
                  prospectus and other relevant documents concerning the Star
                  merger and the World Exchange merger with the United States
                  SEC. Additionally, World Access has filed a proxy statement/
                  prospectus and other relevant documents concerning the
                  TelDaFax transactions with the SEC. WE URGE INVESTORS TO READ
                  THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND ANY OTHER RELEVANT
                  DOCUMENTS FILED WITH THE SEC BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN IMPORTANT
                  INFORMATION.
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                  Investors will be able to obtain the documents free of charge
                  at the SEC's Web site, www.sec.gov. In addition, documents
                  filed with the SEC by World Access will be available free of
                  charge by writing to Investor Relations, World Access, Inc.,
                  945 E. Paces Ferry Road, Suite 2200, Atlanta, GA, 30326, or by
                  telephone request to 404-231-2025. Documents filed by Star can
                  be obtained by writing to Investor Relations, Star
                  Telecommunications, Inc., 223 East De La Guerra Street, Santa
                  Barbara, CA, 93101, or by telephone request at 805-899-1962.

                  The participants, as defined in Instruction 3 to Item 4 of
                  Schedule 14(A) in the solicitation of proxies from the World
                  Access stockholders for the approval of the merger include
                  World Access and Walter J. Burmeister, Kirby J. Campbell,
                  Brian Cipoletti, Stephen J. Clearman, John P. Imlay, Jr.,
                  Massimo Prelz Oltramonti, John D. Phillips, John P. Rigas,
                  Carl E. Sanders, Dru A. Sedwick, and Lawrence C. Tucker, each
                  a director of World Access. Please see World Access' Annual
                  Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 1999,
                  filed on March 30, 2000, for a description of the World Access
                  security holdings of each of the World Access directors.

                  I'd like to turn the call over to Jack.
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J. Phillips:      Thank you for joining us this afternoon for our third quarter
                  earnings release. Joining me for this call is Brian Yokley,
                  our Chief Financial Officer; and Walt Burmeister, our
                  President.

                  Before we get started on the results we'd like to take a
                  minute to update you on our progress in bringing our pending
                  transaction Star/WorldxChange and TeleDafax through the SEC
                  review process, to shareholder votes and closure. To this, I'd
                  like to turn the call over to Brian Yokley.

B. Yokley:        Thank you, Jack. We're able to report today that we are
                  finally nearing conclusion to the SEC's review of the S-4
                  filed in connection with the Star and WorldxChange mergers.
                  As you are aware, the S-4 and the one filed in the relation to
                  the TeleDafax acquisition are both very complex documents, due
                  to the nature of the multiple transactions.

                  As you may have noted in our press release, we still have one
                  remaining issue to be resolved, which relates to when we begin
                  consolidating WorldxChange into our financial results. As we
                  have discussed previously, World Access assumed operational
                  control of WorldxChange on August 1st, pursuant to a
                  management service agreement and voting agreements executed by
                  certain shareholders of World Access and WorldxChange.
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                  We are presenting to you today financial results which
                  incorporate the operations of WorldxChange from that date,
                  which is consistent with the guidance we gave you in
                  September. We and our accountants, Ernst & Young, believe that
                  this is the appropriate accounting treatment. However, we are
                  presenting these results as pro forma results until we can get
                  these matters resolved with the SEC.

                  We feel strongly that the consolidation of WorldxChange as
                  of August 1st accurately reports the results of today's
                  operations. Ernst & Young is today meeting with the SEC to
                  discuss this issue. The ultimate outcome of the financial
                  presentation of third quarter results will not have any impact
                  on our future gross revenues, assets or operations. As you
                  will hear throughout this call, the operations and
                  administrative functions of the companies were substantially
                  integrated in the third quarter, and we are operating as one
                  company.

                  As we do not yet know how the SEC wishes for us to account for
                  the operation of WorldxChange from August 1st, the company's
                  actually results could differ materially from this pro forma
                  presentation. It is important to note, however, that if we
                  reported our results on a stand alone basis, which by the way
                  would be difficult considering that significant
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                  integration has already taken place, our reported earnings for
                  the third quarter would have been better than the pro forma
                  numbers we are presenting to you today.

                  The bottom line of all of this is that we expect to resolve
                  the administrative issue with the SEC shortly, and move to an
                  orderly closing of the three pending acquisitions. Since the
                  review process has now run to mid-November, we may be required
                  to update the proxy document with the third quarter results
                  for all our four companies. This may take a few weeks, which
                  could possibly delay the shareholder meetings and closings
                  from December to early January. We hope to avoid this delay,
                  but should in any event be in the position to announce the
                  shareholder meeting date shortly.

                  At this point I'd like to turn the call back to Jack.

J. Phillips:      Thank you, Bryan. Let me assure you all that we at World
                  Access are very anxious to get all three of these transactions
                  closed, and will do everything we can to facilitate this
                  objective. Now let's go to the third quarter results.
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                  In the third quarter, we had pro forma revenues of $320.7
                  million, representing year over year growth of 146%, and a pro
                  forma EBITDA loss, excluding one time charges, of $8.9
                  million. Our pro forma balance sheet continues to be very
                  strong, with more than $436 million in cash and investments.

                  Also, despite the complex SEC review process, we did make
                  progress in our acquisition strategy in the third quarter. We
                  bought Apax shares in TeleDafax, giving us 33% of the
                  outstanding stock. Additionally, I recently joined TeleDafax's
                  board of directors, and we appointed World Access' treasurer,
                  Mike Mies, as Chief Financial Officer of TeleDafax. These
                  changes will help us prepare our companies for successful
                  integration, once we do clear the SEC.

                  We also made quite a bit of progress in our retail integration
                  in Europe during the quarter, combining numerous retail
                  offices, moving five countries into the proprietary billing
                  system for their retail operations, and beginning a marketing
                  program to move each separate retail brand over to the NETnet
                  brand.
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                  Now let me pass the call over to Bryan for a full run down on
                  the financials.

B. Yokley:        Hopefully by now all of you have received our press release
                  that details the pro forma operating results of World Access
                  for the third quarter of 2000, and the company's strong
                  financial position as of September 30th. Again, consistent
                  with our guidance call in September, the pro forma third
                  quarter results include WorldxChange, consolidated from
                  August 1st through the end of the quarter.

                  I am please to report that during the quarter, World Access
                  realized pro forma revenues of $320.7 million, slightly ahead
                  of both our business plan and consensus analyst estimates. Pro
                  forma third quarter 2000 revenue increased by approximately
                  $190.5 million, or 146% from the third quarter of 1999, due
                  to both acquisitions and internal growth.

                  Breaking down our third quarter revenue further, of the $320.7
                  million realized, $249.4 million, or 78% of the total, was in
                  carrier customers, and $71.3 million or 22% of the total was
                  from retail customers. This compares to 89% from carriers and
                  11% from retail in the second quarter of year 2000. As we
                  indicated in September, you can already see the
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                  impact of our tighter credit policies on the wholesale
                  business, and the acceleration of our shift to greater retail
                  mix.

                  During the third quarter, European originated revenue
                  approximately was 41% of our pro forma total revenue. The
                  weakness of the euro continues to negatively impact our
                  European revenue. The euro is currently trading at 5% below
                  our fourth quarter budget rate. Pro forma for all pending
                  acquisitions, European-originated revenue is approaching 48%
                  of total revenues.

                  Pro forma EBITDA as presented here is normalized for one time
                  charges by adding back charges for restructuring, billing
                  integration, brand migration, and one time increase for
                  doubtful account reserves related to our tightened credit
                  policy. These one time charges, which we alerted you to in
                  September, totaled $72.9 million in the quarter. If you
                  normalize pro forma EBITDA loss for the quarter, it was $8.9
                  million, or $0.07 per diluted share, compared with our
                  guidance of a loss of $9.9 million, or $0.12 per share.

                  The pro forma gross profit margin realized in the quarter was
                  $48.4 million, or 15.1% of revenue, up from 10.9% of revenue
                  in the third
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                  quarter of 1999, and our prior guidance of approximately 15%.
                  The increase in margin on a year to year basis was due to
                  several factors, including increased European originated
                  traffic, and increased retail revenue.

                  The third quarter margins also represented a 220 basis point
                  improvement sequentially, compared with 12.9% gross margin in
                  the second quarter of 2000. Pro forma SG&A expenses in the
                  third quarter, excluding one time charges related to the
                  integration of the WorldxChange acquisition of $72.9 million,
                  were $57.3 million or 17.9% of total revenue, in line with our
                  business plan.

                  During the third quarter of 2000, our pro forma cash earnings
                  from continuing operations, excluding the impact of one time
                  restructuring charge, net of taxes, was ($0.17) per share,
                  which is $0.12 per share better than our original guidance.
                  Approximately $0.04 of this is due to a gain on sales of
                  securities. A final note on our P&L is that operating results
                  of NACT are reported under discontinued operations.

                  Quickly, turning to the balance sheet, our liquidity position
                  continues to be solid in the third quarter of 2000, with an
                  ending balance of $419 million
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                  in pro forma cash and investments, including $17 million in
                  restricted cash reserved for interest payments on senior
                  notes. This cash position, along with our low leverage, gives
                  us the financial strength necessary to aggressively pursue
                  available growth opportunities in Europe, and execute our long
                  term plans, while waiting out the current downturn in capital
                  markets. We view our balance sheet as a significant
                  competitive strength, and as a major attraction for merger and
                  acquisition candidates, particularly those that may be
                  under-capitalized.

                  As some of you are aware, the indenture for the 13.25% bonds
                  provides that our net cash proceeds from the sale of certain
                  assets be used to reduce debt. Accordingly, over the next
                  several months, we will be using the proceeds of the Telco
                  sale, approximately $160 million, to further reduce the
                  company's debt. We are currently analyzing how best to use
                  these proceeds, consistent with the terms of the trust
                  indenture.

                  As we have indicated in the past, our intention had been to
                  use all of the proceeds to tender for the bonds. This seemed
                  to be the best use of proceeds, due to the high coupon on the
                  notes, and the fact that the tender price was less than par,
                  due to the equity value. When we first announced the Telco
                  proceeds, our stock was trading in the 20's, and a tender
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                  price would have been something less than 95. We have recently
                  received suggestions from our financial advisors that, given
                  the current stock price, and the nature of some of the debt we
                  will be assuming in our acquisitions, we should consider using
                  some of the proceeds to retire senior debt in accordance with
                  the provisions of the indenture. We will be evaluating this
                  issue over the next few weeks.

                  With that, let me turn the call over to Walt Burmeister for
                  some color on the operations.

W. Burmeister:    I'll begin with the carrier services operation, and end up
                  with the good stuff -- our European retail operations. As we
                  indicated in September, we scaled back our wholesale
                  operation, tightening our credit policy, and either
                  restricting capacity to, or turning down completely, customers
                  whose financial condition indicated possible problems in the
                  future. As a result, our revenues in the carrier services
                  division have declined from the second quarter, even with the
                  WorldxChange business added in for two months.

                  While this is a reduction in terms of total revenue, we
                  believe it's the right approach to the wholesale business in
                  this turbulent period. It is also
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                  consistent with our long term objective of focusing on revenue
                  from a European SME customer base. Moreover, we are convinced
                  that rationalization is already taking place in the wholesale
                  arena, and will result in fewer players and more rational
                  pricing. We had been able to raise pricing on a number of our
                  routes over the last month, although margins remain tight on
                  many others.

                  For the foreseeable future, we continue to expect wholesale
                  revenue to remain flat, with modest improvement in margin. The
                  carrier business has now been completely migrated onto our new
                  proprietary operating systems, which we are acquiring as part
                  of World Exchange. We had our first month of fully independent
                  carrier billing in September, meaning that the new system ran
                  without duplication from our old billing system.

                  On the retail side, we made considerable progress in the third
                  quarter. Much effort was put into consolidating and
                  integrating our retail operations, country by country
                  throughout Europe. For the first time, we're operating a
                  single retail organization, and reporting off of one
                  accounting system in each country. This is no small feat,
                  considering that earlier this year, we had as many as six
                  offices and eight different billing and accounting systems in
                  one country as a result of acquisitions.
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                  For retail billing, sales management, and customer service,
                  five countries have been migrated to the new system and are
                  fully functional. The remaining countries are expected to be
                  migrated to the new system by the end of the year. I can't
                  emphasize too strongly the importance of this integrated
                  customer management system, and the competitive advantage we
                  believe it gives us.

                  During the third quarter, World Access began migrating the
                  branding of all retail telecom activities in Europe under the
                  NETnet brand. We will continue to use the Facilicom brand for
                  our carrier business, both in the US and in Europe. We have
                  integrated our networks and eliminated duplicate operating
                  centers by closing the network operating centers in
                  Washington, DC and Malmo, Sweden. We are now running the
                  combined network out of our San Diego and London NOCs. These
                  facilities, which work closely together, currently manage 47
                  switches in 17 countries around the world.

                  We have also eliminated excess network capacity, and are in
                  the process of redeploying network assets to minimize capital
                  expenditures going forward. We have recently deployed advanced
                  network monitoring equipment to detect low ASRs, looping and
                  other network problems,
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                  before they're seen and reported by our customers, thus
                  improving customer satisfaction.

                  Carrier customer service has been combined and centralized in
                  San Diego. Retail customer service is handled in each country
                  because of differences in language and local business
                  practices. We have realized savings in this operation by
                  combining multiple retail customer service centers in some
                  countries into a single unit per country.

                  Finally, we have made considerable head count reductions.
                  Since the beginning of 2000, on a pro forma basis, with
                  WorldxChange and Netnet we have cut in excess of 350 full time
                  equivalents. We expect to make further substantial reductions
                  before the end of this year.

                  In summary, during the third quarter, we consolidated our
                  networks and operations, and put the back room systems in
                  place that will enable us to efficiently manage growth and
                  profitability going forward. Let me now turn back to Jack.

J. Phillips:      In our last quarterly earnings call, I talked a lot about the
                  panic in the stock market where telecom stocks are concerned.
                  I also expressed some hope
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                  that investors would begin to differentiate among long
                  distance players, and recognize superior business plans and
                  strong balance sheets, something that I felt sure would
                  benefit World Access. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened, and
                  the panic seems to have deepened.

                  It's not my intention to dwell heavily on the stock price
                  today, but I do want to remind investors that not all telecom
                  companies are alike. Let's stop for a minute and look at what
                  the market seems to be saying about telecom. We think
                  investors have expressed four key concerns about the current
                  telecom environment.

                  First, for over a year now, investors have been wary of the
                  wholesale long distance business, and with good reason, since
                  the environment has been fractured and competitive. We are, I
                  believe, in the midst of a healing shakeout in wholesale. It
                  will never be the focus of our efforts, but we believe it will
                  continue to be an effective tool for filling networks and
                  increasing the profitable utilization of network assets.

                  Our future growth, current and future acquisitions, and
                  strategic focus, is on European retail activities. We expect
                  carrier revenues to rapidly become a much smaller portion of
                  our overall business.
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                  Second, investors had been increasingly skeptical in the last
                  couple of quarters about consumer long distance here in the
                  US, where price competition has been tough, churn high, and
                  customer acquisition and retention increasingly costly. With
                  WorldxChange, we will inherit some US consumer business, but
                  it will be a fairly small portion of our revenue base, and is
                  not a focus for future growth. We will treat the US consumer
                  business as a cash cow, harvesting cash and foregoing
                  investment.

                  Third, a number of our peers have highlighted thin margins and
                  tough price competition in this segment, and focused on large
                  business customers. Our strategy is focused on European small
                  and medium sized business customers, for exactly that reason.
                  In the large customer base, the customer has all the power,
                  and competition is extremely tough. In the SME base, we're
                  competing primarily with the old European PTTs for the small
                  business customers, and while it can still be competitive, it
                  remains one of the highest margin retail segments.

                  Finally, investors had been concerned for some time now with
                  the poor quality of some telecom balance sheets. We said it
                  before and we're saying it once again: we believe we have one
                  of the strongest balance sheets in the group, with $436
                  million in pro forma cash and investments.
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                  We're fully funded, and we believe our existing asset base
                  will carry us through the current capital market crisis, and
                  provide the foundation for our future growth.

                  Moreover, the tight capital markets have produced a very
                  favorable environment for consolidation activity. Many of you
                  are worried that our stock price might inhibit our ability to
                  do transactions. Quite the opposite. We are currently working
                  on several large transactions, which, if completed
                  successfully, should put us on track to deliver our 2001
                  growth projections with ease.

                  We are not finding any shortage of good acquisition candidates
                  to work with. Quite simply, we do not believe that our stock
                  price reflects the realities of our solid business plan and
                  the capabilities of our management team. There is a difference
                  between World Access and many of its peers.

                  Realistically, however, we don't expect the panic to end any
                  time soon. But we do expect to continue running our business
                  the same way we always have, staying focused on our strategy,
                  restraining cost, and conserving cash, and doing all of the
                  blocking and tackling that allows us to integrate businesses
                  successfully. All of this is business as usual for
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                  World Access' management, which has operated in challenging
                  environments successfully in the past, and has considerable
                  experience with tight capital markets and competitive
                  operating environments.

                  Over the last year, many companies in our sector have tried to
                  escape the rigors of the capital markets and competitive
                  telecom by reinventing themselves as the flavor of the day.
                  Big business accounts, high end data, Internet anything. But
                  that's really missing the point. The business is what the
                  customer wants. We have focused on this from the beginning. It
                  drives every aspect of our business plan. We believe it is the
                  only real source of value out there. It's not about data or
                  Internet or any other fancy service or network device. It's
                  just about the customer, and delivering services that the
                  customer wants.

                  Moreover, the customer is what we want. We believe strongly
                  that the primary source of shareholder value for telecom
                  companies is, and will continue to be, customers. To that end,
                  we will continue to create value by building a strong base of
                  European SME customers, a sales organization to grow that
                  customer base, and the back office infrastructure to support
                  it.
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                  At the end of the day, we expect that $3 to $5 billion in
                  revenue, focused on the European SME market, will be
                  enormously valuable in the next round of industry
                  consolidation.

                  With that, I'd like to open this up for questions.

Coordinator:      Thank you. Our first question comes from Paul Saferstein from
                  Morgan Stanley.

                                   [redacted]

P. Saferstein:    Secondly, maybe you could step us through, assuming the
                  closing of these transactions, where the product portfolio is,
                  what is up and running, and what other types of product
                  developments are underway and when we can expect that to be
                  commercially available.

                                   [redacted]
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W.  Burmeister:   Paul, as you know, we're focused on the small and medium
                  business customer in Europe, and our policy is not to spend
                  time and money developing new products. So what we're doing
                  is, we're looking at that market segment. We're determining
                  what that market segment requires. And then through
                  acquisitions, we're getting the products and services that
                  satisfy that market segment.

                  Most notably, the most recent large acquisition that will
                  close very shortly, Teledefax in Germany, brings to us a
                  mobile reseller capability in Germany, which we also have in
                  several other countries in Europe. It
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                  brings to us Internet access, it brings to us Internet
                  products that can be delivered into the small business market.
                  So that's our focus for the time being.

                  Voice services, both national long distance and international
                  long distance; Internet access; wireless resale, and basic
                  Internet products for the medium and small business customer,
                  but we are not going to be spending a lot of time developing
                  new products on our own.

J. Phillips:      I would also say that some of the companies that we're looking
                  companies, the geographical focus is Europe, as Walt said. But
                  to us, we want the customer, and sometimes that means focusing
                  on companies that have very strong distribution channels. Walt
                  mentioned TeleDafax. We do thing they have a very strong
                  distribution channel. They have one of the strongest agent
                  channels that we've seen anywhere. We plan on really enhancing
                  and feeding that channel.

                  Part of what we've done European wide is, the four legs that
                  we stand on, we think, in distribution are agent sales, direct
                  sales, telemarketing and direct mail. Those are the four main
                  channels that we're able to reach out and touch this SME
                  customer base, our profile customer. So we're
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                  looking for those strong distribution channels, and we're also
                  looking for reasonably strong distribution channels that we
                  can enhance, using our state of the art systems, which include
                  agent reporting that gives them real time daily commissions,
                  order processing, and these types of things that really
                  motivate agent bases to produce and perform much better than
                  they have been historically because they get better access to
                  information for motivational purposes.

                                   [redacted]

P. Saferstein:    Is there a time frame in terms of taking the German products,
                  such as the resale and Internet access?

W.  Burmeister:   Well, these are things we already do to one extent or another
                  in some of the other European countries. There are some
                  products that have been developed for the small business
                  customers. These are e-commerce type products that we're
                  rolling out now in Germany with TeleDafax. We'll see how
                  successful they are, and if they're successful, we'll adapt
                  them for

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                  other markets. But generally, there will probably be about a
                  one or two quarter lag from trialing it in one market and then
                  rolling it into another market.

                                   [redacted]
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G. Casergot:      In the third quarter, what impact did the euro have? Can you
                  talk about the euro impact on your financial results as you
                  translate, and what might one expect for next year?

J. Phillips:      Obviously, the euro is just recently recovered somewhat, but
                  it's down and it's affecting everyone over there.

B. Yokley:        From a translation perspective, it really has no impact. The
                  impact has really been more on the revenue side. Net income,
                  we had no impact. Our cost and revenues are matched up in each
                  country, kind of a natural hedge. So it doesn't affect net
                  income. It does decline revenues, but we have an offset in the
                  cost side.
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G. Casergot:      How much did it impact revenue in the third quarter at the top
                  line. Was it 5%, or 10%?

B. Yokley:        Relative to the guidance we had given, there is no impact,
                  because we had pretty much factored in about the same average
                  as what it worked out to. If you look at the current trading
                  level of the euro, however, it's about 5% below the third
                  quarter average, and consequently 5% below what we've used for
                  our budgeting going forward. But unless there's some recovery,
                  we could see an impact going forward.

J. Phillips:      Do we know what the actual number was?

B. Yokley:        There was no impact in Q3 relative to our guidance.

J. Phillips:      But obviously, we don't bring that money back, so we pay
                  everything over there and leave it over there, but it's a
                  revenue impact.

                                   [redacted]


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Coordinator:      At this time there are no further questions.

J. Phillips:      Then we thank you for your indulgence this afternoon, and we
                  will be back to you for our next conference call at the end of
                  the fourth quarter. Thank you very much.




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