HARLEYSVILLE GROUP INC
4, 1997-10-02
FIRE, MARINE & CASUALTY INSURANCE
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UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 4
STATEMENT OF CHANGES IN BENEFICIAL OWNERSHIP
( ) Check this box if no longer subject to Section 16.
Form 4 or Form 5 obligations may continue. See Instructions 1(b).
1. Name and Address of Reporting Person
   Simpson, Jr., Robert 
   111 Crestwood Circle
   Lansdale, PA  19446
2. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol
   Harleysville Group Inc.
   HGIC
3. IRS or Social Security Number of Reporting Person (Voluntary)
   
4. Statement for Month/Year
   09/30/97
5. If Amendment, Date of Original (Month/Year)
   
6. Relationship of Reporting Person(s) to Issuer (Check all applicable)
   ( ) Director ( ) 10% Owner ( ) Officer (give title below) (X) Other
   (specify below)
   Director Emeritus of Parent Company
7. Individual or Joint/Group Filing (Check Applicable Line)
   (X) Form filed by One Reporting Person
   ( ) Form filed by More than One Reporting Person
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 Table I -- Non-Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned                                                 |
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1. Title of Security       |2.    |3.    |4.Securities Acquired (A)         |5.Amount of        |6.Dir |7.Nature of Indirect       |
                           | Transaction |  or Disposed of (D)              |  Securities       |ect   |  Beneficial Ownership     |
                           |      |      |                                  |  Beneficially     |(D)or |                           |
                           |      |    | |                  | A/|           |  Owned at         |Indir |                           |
                           | Date |Code|V|    Amount        | D |    Price  |  End of Month     |ect(I)|                           |
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<S>                        <C>    <C>  <C><C>               <C> <C>         <C>                 <C>    <C>
Common Stock               |9/19/9|S   | |7,000             |D  |$42.4375   |16,081.1260**      |I     |By Spouse                  |
                           |7     |    | |                  |   |           |                   |      |                           |
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Common Stock               |      |    | |                  |   |           |7,225.4524         |D     |                           |
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 Table II -- Derivative Securitites Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned                                                   |
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1.Title of Derivative |2.Con-  |3.   |4.    |5.Number of De |6.Date Exer|7.Title and Amount  |8.Price|9.Number    |10.|11.Nature of|
  Security            |version |Transaction | rivative Secu |cisable and|  of Underlying     |of Deri|of Deriva   |Dir|Indirect    |
                      |or Exer |     |      | rities Acqui  |Expiration |  Securities        |vative |tive        |ect|Beneficial  |
                      |cise    |     |      | red(A) or Dis |Date(Month/|                    |Secu   |Securities  |(D)|Ownership   |
                      |Price of|     |      | posed of(D)   |Day/Year)  |                    |rity   |Benefi      |or |            |
                      |Deriva- |     |      |               |Date |Expir|                    |       |ficially    |Ind|            |
                      |tive    |     |      |           | A/|Exer-|ation|   Title and Number |       |Owned at    |ire|            |
                      |Secu-   |     |    | |           | D |cisa-|Date |   of Shares        |       |End of      |ct |            |
                      |rity    |Date |Code|V|  Amount   |   |ble  |     |                    |       |Month       |(I)|            |
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<S>                   <C>      <C>   <C>  <C><C>        <C> <C>   <C>   <C>          <C>     <C>     <C>          <C> <C>
                      |        |     |    | |           |   |     |     |            |       |       |            |   |            |
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Explanation of Responses:
**The reporting person disclaims beneficial ownership of these securities, and 
this report shall not be deemed an 
admission that the reporting person is the beneficial owner of such securities 
for purposes of Section 16 or for 
any other 
purposes.
SIGNATURE OF REPORTING PERSON
/s/ Robert Simpson, Jr.
DATE
10/1/97



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