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These small particles where [which are] of interest to us are many times smaller
and held on many more times strongly. Again, to overcome this, we need a
disturbance, a focused force. That's the second thing that needs to happen.
The third thing that needs to happen is we need to get this particle away from the
surface and into an area where it's sampled or collected or something like that, and
this is -- that happens very easily. This is just the natural room air current and
outdoors the natural wind. This will indeed happen very easily if the first two occur.
So to overcome particularly these first two requirements, to get first a particle and
then to get it into the air, we need a disturbance of some sort.
Q.
I now have a new explanation to my wife about my dirty cars. But
moving to the question of getting the product, getting the fibres off the ACM, would
an air stream over the ACM be sufficient to release fibres from the matrix?
A.
Not any normal air stream that could be contemplated in a building, would
not be sufficient to do this. This has been studied fairly extensively by myself and
there's a number of other studies that suggest that normal air streams of the type you
find in buildings simply are not sufficient to bring these respirable particles into the
air. This is the opposite of what's happening with visible debris where everyone, of
course, is familiar that the large non-inhalable debris will move relatively easily
through mechanisms of this sort.
Q.
What about vibration that occurs in a building, either from the outside,
from external sources or indeed from the operation of equipment or some other
internal source in the building?
A.
Normal forces of -- the vibration forces of the type we find in buildings,
motors vibration, equipment moving, things of this sort, is not sufficiently focused to
overcome these forces for the small respirable particles. Again, this is not the
condition for large visible debris. Everyone is, of course, aware that that larger
material can, of course, be dislodged by mechanisms of that sort.
Q.
What force then would be necessary, in more detail, to release an asbestos
fibre from the matrix?
A.
Again, we are looking for it to be of a magnitude and sufficiently focused
for it to occur, that the best example is sanding. Sanding the many small hard
particles on sandpaper cause small focused forces that are very effective, actually
creating the dispersal mechanisms or the creation of dispersal mechanisms I'm
speaking of. Even something like, for example, drilling might conceivably produce a
measurable level while it was occurring in the immediate vicinity of the drill. Sawing