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Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse  
c. Gaz métropolitain inc.  
2008 QCTDP 24  
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL  
CANADA  
PROVINCE OF QUÉBEC  
DISTRICT OF MONTRÉAL  
No.  
500-53-000204-030  
September 11, 2008  
DATE:  
______________________________________________________________________  
PRESENT: THE HONOURABLE MICHÈLE RIVET J.  
WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF ASSESSORS:  
Mtre. Yeong-Gin Jean Yoon  
Ginette Bouffard  
______________________________________________________________________  
COMMISSION DES DROITS DE LA PERSONNE ET DES DROITS DE LA JEUNESSE, a  
public body constituted under the Charter of human rights and freedoms (R.S.Q., c. C-12),  
having its head office at 360, rue Saint-Jacques Ouest, Montréal (Québec) H2Y 1P5,  
acting on behalf of LINE BEAUDOIN, JOHANNE BOLDUC, MARIE-CLAUDE CÔTÉ,  
JOHANNE (JOAN) DUPONT, TANIA PLOURDE, SHIRLEY THOMAS AND NICOLE  
TRUDEL  
Plaintiff  
v.  
GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN INC, a legal person established in the private interest, having its  
head office at 1717, rue du Havre, Montréal (Québec) H2K 2X3  
and  
GAZ MÉTROPOLITAN LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, a corporation having its head office at  
1717, rue du Havre, Montréal (Québec) H2K 2X3  
Defendants  
and  
LINE BEAUDOIN, JOHANNE BOLDUC, MARIE-CLAUDE CÔTÉ, JOHANNE (JOAN)  
DUPONT, TANIA PLOURDE, SHIRLEY THOMAS AND NICOLE TRUDEL, having elected  
domicile at 360, rue Saint-Jacques Ouest, Montréal (Québec) H2Y 1P5  
Victims  
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and  
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ACTION TRAVAIL DES FEMMES DU QUÉBEC INC., a legal person established in the  
private interest, having its place of business at 911, rue Jean-Talon Est, local 224,  
Montréal (Québec) H2R 1V5  
Complainant before the Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse  
and  
SYNDICAT DES EMPLOYÉS DE GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN INC. (CSN), duly certified  
association of employees, having a place of business at 1717, rue du Havre, Montréal  
(Québec) H2K 2X3  
Interested party  
_____________________________________________________________________  
JUDGMENT  
______________________________________________________________________  
TABLE OF CONTENTS  
SECTION 1. NATURE OF THE DISPUTE ......................................................................4  
1.1 Origin of the dispute ...............................................................................................8  
1.2 Chronology of the proceedings ..............................................................................8  
SECTION 2. APPLICABLE LAW.................................................................................10  
2.1 Nature and foundation of systemic discrimination................................................12  
2.2 Particulars of the evidence in matters of systemic discrimination.........................17  
2.2.1 Some manifestations of systemic discrimination............................................17  
2.2.2 Utility of statistical evidence ...........................................................................20  
2.3 Grounds of defence in cases of systemic discrimination......................................24  
2.3.1 Requirements essential to safe and efficient performance of the work ..........25  
2.3.2 Minimal requirements not likely to be reasonably accommodated .................27  
SECTION 3. ANALYSIS OF THE EVIDENCE .............................................................30  
3.1 Presence of women in blue-collar jobs at Gaz Métro ...........................................31  
3.1.1 Circumstances of the special recruitment competition ...................................31  
3.1.2 Issue of under-representation ........................................................................33  
3.2 Description of the position of network operator and its prerequisites ...................41  
3.2.1 Description of the duties.................................................................................41  
3.2.2 Prerequisites according to the job profile .......................................................44  
3.2.2.1 Class 3 driver’s licence............................................................................46  
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3.2.2.2 Secondary V diploma ..............................................................................52  
3.2.2.3 Non-traditional experience ......................................................................53  
3.3 External selection process ...................................................................................55  
3.3.1 Information sessions ......................................................................................56  
3.3.2 Management of résumés................................................................................58  
3.3.3 Pre-interview ..................................................................................................59  
3.3.3.1 People interviewed, interviewers and general interview procedure.........59  
3.3.3.2 Interview tools .........................................................................................61  
3.3.3.3 Particular questions and themes of the interview....................................63  
3.3.3.4 Nature and evaluation of the interview ....................................................69  
3.3.3.5 Conclusions regarding the pre-interview.................................................76  
3.3.4 Theoretical examination .................................................................................80  
3.3.4.1 Procedure for the theoretical examination...............................................80  
3.3.4.2 Evaluation of the theoretical examination................................................83  
3.3.4.3. Bennett test............................................................................................86  
3.3.4.4 Conclusions regarding the theoretical examination.................................89  
3.3.5 Practical examination.....................................................................................90  
3.3.5.1 Procedure for the practical examination..................................................90  
3.3.5.2 Evaluation of the practical examination...................................................93  
3.3.5.3 Conclusions regarding the practical examination....................................97  
3.3.6 Medical examination ....................................................................................104  
3.3.7 Pilot project ..................................................................................................107  
3.3.8 Conclusions regarding the selection process...............................................109  
3.3.8.1 Correlation between the duties, requirements and means of selection.109  
3.3.8.2 Absence of criterion-related validation ..................................................110  
3.3.8.3 Final conclusions regarding the selection process................................113  
3.4 Gaz Métro’s institutional culture .........................................................................113  
3.4.1 Prevailing models.........................................................................................114  
3.4.2 Candidate profile sought ..............................................................................117  
3.4.3 Organizational dimension of the special recruitment competition.................119  
SECTION 4. REMEDIAL MEASURES.......................................................................125  
4.1 Orders of a systemic nature ...............................................................................126  
4.1.1 Imposing an affirmative action program .......................................................126  
4.1.2 Modifying institutional policies and practices................................................133  
4.2 Individual measures ...........................................................................................136  
4.2.1 Measures related to material prejudice ........................................................136  
4.2.2 Measures related to moral prejudice............................................................140  
4.2.3 Punitive damages.........................................................................................146  
4.2.4 Employment integration and other measures...............................................148  
SECTION 5. CONCLUSIONS ....................................................................................151  
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SECTION 1. NATURE OF THE DISPUTE  
[1]  
The Tribunal is seized of a motion introductive of suit in which the plaintiff, the  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse (hereinafter referred  
to as the “Commission”), alleges that the defendants, Gaz Métropolitain Inc. and the  
Gaz Métropolitain Limited Partnership (hereinafter referred to together as “Gaz Métro”),  
interfered with the right to equality of the victims Line Beaudoin, Johanne Bolduc, Marie-  
Claude Côté, Joan Dupont, Tania Plourde, Shirley Thomas and Nicole Trudel by  
applying a discriminatory hiring system to female candidates, which resulted in their  
disproportionate exclusion from positions of network operator/trainee (hereinafter  
“network operator”), traditionally held by male employees, the whole contrary to sections  
10, 16 and 86 of the Charter of human rights and freedoms.1  
[2]  
In short, the Commission alleges that Gaz Métro engaged in systemic  
discriminatory hiring practices. Given the length of the conclusions sought and for  
greater clarity, I cite below the full conclusions as they appear in the Commission’s  
written arguments:  
[TRANSLATION]  
FOR THESE REASONS, THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION, ACTING IN THE  
PUBLIC INTEREST AND ON BEHALF OF THE COMPLAINANTS, ASKS THE  
HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL TO:  
ALLOW this motion;  
ACKNOWLEDGE that the hiring system used by the defendants to fill the  
position of network operator/trainee had discriminatory effects contrary to  
sections 10, 16 and 86 of the Charter;  
ACKNOWLEDGE that, on a number of occasions since 1995 and through the  
recruitment and selection system used to fill the position of network  
operator/trainee, the defendants interfered with the complainants’ right to equality  
in employment, contrary to sections 10, 16 and 86 of the Charter;  
ORDER the defendants to:  
OVERHAUL the selection process and the hiring and selection criteria for the  
position of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, in order to  
eliminate the discriminatory biases against women;  
VALIDATE the content and grading of the company’s hiring and selection  
examinations in order to eliminate all discriminatory biases against women and to  
ensure that the examinations make it possible to recruit and hire female  
candidates with the essential qualifications and aptitudes required to perform the  
work of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
1 R.S.Q., c. C-12 (Charter).  
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CEASE using hiring and selection examinations with a negative impact on  
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women without their being warranted by the qualifications and aptitudes required  
for the employment of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
MODIFY the system of candidate interviews in order to eliminate questions with a  
discriminatory effect on women and take the necessary steps to ensure that the  
people in charge of the interviews have clear and specific instructions to treat all  
candidates without discrimination based on sex;  
CEASE to rank candidates in order of grades on examinations for the position of  
network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, except in the case of  
validation making it possible to establish the correlation between receiving a  
higher grade on hiring examinations and better performance as a network  
operator/trainee;  
DRAW UP, when selecting people for the position of network operator/trainee, or  
an equivalent position, two lists of candidates, i.e. a list of female candidates who  
have the qualifications and aptitudes essential for the job and another list of  
qualified male candidates;  
HIRE, on a priority basis, women with the essential qualifications and aptitudes  
required to perform the work of a network operator/trainee, in any external or  
internal hiring, in accordance with the terms and conditions established in the  
affirmative action program, the preferential appointment rate being set at 40%;  
FACILITATE the integration of women into the technical network training  
program by examining, in particular, the possibility of following and participating  
in the program, and performing the work of a network operator/trainee in different  
ways, while ensuring that the work is done safely and efficiently;  
FACILITATE the integration of women into blue-collar jobs, particularly by setting  
up a committee to fight sexual and sexist harassment at work, on which network  
operators/trainees and the management of the company are represented;  
ADOPT working tools and methods that foster the integration of women into non-  
traditional jobs, by examining, in particular, the possibility of performing the work  
of network operator/trainee (or an equivalent position) in different ways, while  
ensuring that the work is performed safely and efficiently;  
THE WHOLE, in the framework of an affirmative action program. And to that end,  
ORDER the defendants to submit, within three (3) years, an affirmative action  
program developed in consultation with the Commission des droits de la  
personne et des droits de la jeunesse and in accordance with the Regulation  
respecting Affirmative Action Programs;  
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ORDER the defendants to HIRE Marie-Claude Côté, Johanne Bolduc and Shirley  
Thomas as network operators/trainees, or in an equivalent position, as soon as  
such positions become open, with recognition retroactive to April 1996 of all the  
rights and privileges related to the position, including non-competitive seniority  
and pension credits, payment of damages for the wage loss incurred, plus an  
additional amount to compensate for adverse tax implications of the payment of  
damages claimed during a taxation year;  
ORDER the defendants to REINSTATE Line Beaudoin, Johanne (Joan) Dupont,  
Tania Plourde and Nicole Trudel in the selection process at the stage at which  
they would have been but for the discrimination against them and, should those  
complainants pass the subsequent stages of the hiring process, OFFER them  
positions as network operators/trainees as soon as such positions become open;  
ORDER the defendants to PAY each of the complainants, namely, Line  
Beaudoin, Johanne Bolduc, Marie-Claude Côté, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Tania  
Plourde, Shirley Thomas and Nicole Trudel, $20 000 (twenty thousand dollars) in  
moral damages as a result of the discrimination they sustained because of their  
sex and for interference in their right to the safeguard of their dignity;  
ORDER the defendants to PAY Line Beaudoin, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Tania  
Plourde and Nicole Trudel each additional damages of $10 000 (ten thousand  
dollars) for insults, humiliation and frustration resulting from the loss of a chance  
and the impossibility of demonstrating that they had the aptitudes and  
qualifications to hold a job as network operator/trainee at the time of their  
candidacy for the position, without being subject to a selection process with  
discriminatory biases;  
ORDER the defendants to PAY each complainant, namely, Line Beaudoin,  
Johanne Bolduc, Marie-Claude Côté, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Tania Plourde,  
Shirley Thomas and Nicole Trudel, an additional $10 000 (ten thousand dollars)  
in punitive damages, considering the unlawful and intentional nature of the  
discrimination they sustained;  
THE WHOLE, with interest and the additional indemnity, in accordance with  
article 1619 C.C.Q., as of service of the proposed remedial measures, as well as  
full costs, including any cost of expert evidence, for the presence of the experts  
in court and for the preparation of their reports.2  
[3]  
As for the complainant, Action travail des femmes du Québec inc. (hereinafter  
referred to as “ATF”), it agreed with the contentions of the Commission and decided to  
file additional arguments. It supported the conclusions sought by the Commission and  
also asked that the affirmative action program (hereinafter referred to as the “AAP”)  
2 Arguments of the Commission, April 5, 2007 at 72-75.  
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developed by Gaz Métro and the Commission be presented to it so that it could  
comment on it and make recommendations.  
[4]  
Gaz Métro mainly contended that the Commission did not discharge its burden of  
demonstrating prima facie the existence of discriminatory elements in the company’s  
hiring process. Gaz Métro also alleged that the under-representation of women in the  
company was not, in and of itself, prima facie evidence of discrimination. The  
defendants explained that each stage in the hiring process was discrimination-free and  
that, at any rate, the victims’ failure at any of the stages was not the consequence of a  
discriminatory system. They contended that the Commission’s evidence consisted only  
in suspicions and theories, and that, although it was not perfect, the recruitment process  
in effect was certainly not discriminatory. Moreover, Gaz Métro protested the  
Commission’s claims that non-discrimination is defined in reference to the standard of  
real equality. Lastly, Gaz Métro contested the justification for the individual claims on  
behalf of the victims.  
[5]  
As regards the Syndicat des employés de Gaz Métropolitain inc. (CSN)  
(hereinafter referred to as the “Syndicat”), it was impleaded solely because it signed a  
letter of understanding (P-2) with the employer, providing that network operator  
positions would be set aside on a priority basis for women and visible minorities, in  
order to increase the representation of those groups in certain positions at Gaz Métro.  
The Syndicat indicated that its involvement in the dispute was limited to letter of  
understanding P-2, since it was never involved in the hiring process. It made no  
representations about the merits of the motion or about the evidence, and it stressed  
solely the importance of the qualifications of the employees recruited.  
[6]  
It also pointed out that it was decided, during the hearing, that the debate should  
not be expanded in order to examine whether the collective agreement3 was itself  
discriminatory, the Tribunal having indicated at the time that it in no way challenged the  
CSN agreement or the hiring process (or the [TRANSLATION] “internal” recruitment  
process) agreed upon with the CSN-certified collective bargaining unit.4 Therefore, the  
Syndicat asked the Tribunal not to allow the conclusions of the Commission that would  
require any interference whatsoever in the affairs of the CSN and, more specifically, to  
strike the words [TRANSLATION] “or internal” from the following conclusion, should it  
be allowed:  
HIRE, on a priority basis, women with the essential skills and aptitudes required  
to perform the work of a network operator/trainee, in any external or internal  
3 D-1: copy of the collective agreement entered into between the Gaz Métropolitain Limited Partnership  
and the Syndicat des employés de Gaz Métropolitain for the period from November 10, 1994 to  
September 30, 1997; D-2: copy of the collective agreement entered into between the Gaz Métropolitain  
Limited Partnership and the Syndicat des employés de Gaz Métropolitain for the period from February 25,  
1998 to September 30, 2000.  
4 Decision rendered orally, stenographic notes, February 22, 2006 at 144-145; decision rendered orally,  
stenographic notes, October 11, 2006 at 9-10.  
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hiring, in accordance with the terms and conditions established in the affirmative  
action program, the preferential appointment rate being set at 40%.5  
[7]  
For the same reasons, the Syndicat also asked the Tribunal to dismiss the  
following conclusion:  
FACILITATE the integration of women into blue-collar jobs, particularly by setting  
up a committee to fight sexual and sexist harassment at work, on which network  
operators/trainees and the management of the company are represented.6  
1.1  
Origin of the dispute  
[8]  
The dispute stems from a complaint submitted by ATF to the Commission on  
December 18, 1996, further to Gaz Métro’s rejection of the candidacies of a number of  
women7 in the special hiring competitions held beginning in 1995. The complaint alleged  
in particular that the requirements, criteria and procedures of Gaz Métro made the  
company’s selection process discriminatory as a whole in regard to women.  
[9]  
In August 2002, after several months of investigation, the Commission  
recommended that Gaz Métro adopt various remedial measures to correct the  
discriminatory situations the Commission had observed.8 Gaz Métro did not follow those  
recommendations, which led the plaintiff to institute judicial proceedings.  
[10] On December 16, 2003, the Commission filed with the Tribunal a motion  
introductive of suit on behalf of eight victims, namely, Line Beaudoin, Johanne Bolduc,  
Marie-Claude Côté, Joan Dupont, Tania Plourde, Shirley Thomas, Nicole Trudel and  
Danielle Varin. Ms. Varin subsequently discontinued her complaint.9  
1.2  
Chronology of the proceedings  
[11] The hearing of the evidence began on October 25, 2004 and lasted 52 days over  
a period of several months, ending on January 12, 2007. The Tribunal heard a total of  
38 witnesses, including 10 expert witnesses. The Commission called Chantale Jeanrie10  
5 Arguments of the Syndicat at 4.  
6 Arguments of the Syndicat at 6.  
7 P-25: complaint filed by Action travail des femmes, dated December 18, 1996, and written consents of  
the victims, in a bundle.  
8 P-23: proposed remedial measures CP-392.6 and service report.  
9 Ms. Varin discontinued her complaint on January 15, 2006. On April 13, 2006, the Commission filed a  
declaration of discontinuance in regard to that victim.  
10 P-43: notice of expert evidence adduced by Chantale Jeanrie, dated August 2, 2004; P-43A: appendix  
to Ms. Jeanrie’s expert report; P-44: notice of expert evidence adduced by Chantale Jeanrie, dated  
January 13, 2005. Testimony: stenographic notes, February 15, 2005; stenographic notes, February 16,  
2005; stenographic notes, February 17, 2005; stenographic notes, May 30, 2005.  
   
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and Erika Boukamp Bosch,11 as well as Claude Yelle12 and Marc Fortier,13 as expert  
witnesses. It also intended to have Jean Renaud testify as an expert witness in its  
rebuttal evidence, but the Tribunal allowed Gaz Métro’s motion for dismissal of that  
expert’s report.14 ATF called Karen Messing as an expert witness.15 Gaz Métro called  
Denise Perron,16 François Boulard,17 Normand Pettersen,18 Louis Laurencelle19 and  
Richard Joly20 to testify.  
[12] The Tribunal rendered a number of interlocutory decisions during the  
proceedings, but I will restrict myself here to recalling those that gave rise to written  
reasons.  
[13] The Tribunal first allowed a motion by Gaz Métro to disqualify Mtre. Rachel Cox,  
ATF attorney.21 Gaz Métro intended to have her testify as an ATF employee and the  
Tribunal deemed that, in the interests of justice, the duties of attorney and witness were  
incompatible. Mtre. Annick Desjardins ultimately appeared for ATF on June 29, 2005 in  
place of Mtre. Cox.  
[14] Then on January 18, 2006, the Tribunal allowed a joint motion by ATF and Mtre.  
Rachel Cox to quash subpoenas duces tecum. It deemed that the documents Gaz  
Métro was asking two witnesses, Mtre. Cox and Lise Gauthier, to provide were too  
broad in scope.22  
11 P-57: expert report of Ms. Boukamp-Bosch dated December 2004. Testimony: stenographic notes,  
February 17, 2005; stenographic notes, February 18, 2005.  
12 P-64: Statistics Canada tables, 2001 Census. Testimony: stenographic notes, March 15, 2005.  
13 P-90: report of Mr. Fortier, public accountant. Testimony: stenographic notes, January 12, 2007.  
14 Decision rendered orally, stenographic notes, January 9, 2007.  
15 A-6: expert report of Ms. Messing dated September 7, 2004. Testimony: stenographic notes, February  
11, 2005.  
16 D-80: expert report of Denise Perron. Testimony: stenographic notes, September 11, 2006;  
stenographic notes, September 12, 2006.  
17 D-74: expert report of François Boulard. Testimony: stenographic notes, June 19, 2006; stenographic  
notes, June 20, 2006.  
18 D-23: expert report of Normand Petterson dated October 20, 2004; D-84A: amended expert report of  
Normand Petterson; D-84B: amended expert report of Normand Petterson, electronic version; D-84C:  
tables in colour; A-19: personal notes of Normand Petterson. Testimony: stenographic notes, September  
12, 2006; stenographic notes, September 13, 2006; stenographic notes, September 14, 2006;  
stenographic notes, September 15, 2006; stenographic notes, October 10, 2006; stenographic notes,  
October 11, 2006.  
19 D-93A: note concerning verification of certain statistical aspects of the case CDPDJ v. Gaz  
Métropolitain Inc.; D-93B: some special comments of a statistical nature on the case CDPDJ v. Gaz  
Métropolitain Inc. Testimony: stenographic notes, December 8, 2006; stenographic notes, December 12,  
2006.  
20 D-103: report of Richard Joly, public accountant. Testimony: stenographic notes, January 12, 2007.  
21 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Gaz Métro inc. (June  
20, 2005), Montréal 500-53-000204-030, J.E. 2005-1303 (QC T.D.P.).  
22 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Gaz Métro inc.  
(January 18, 2006), Montréal 500-53-000204-030 (QC T.D.P.).  
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[15] The Tribunal also allowed, on March 3, 2006, a joint motion by the Commission  
and ATF for adjudication of the stenography costs of the hearing.23 The Tribunal  
decided that Gaz Métro should alone pay the costs of its private stenographer and that  
the other parties could obtain a copy of the stenographic notes by paying the costs  
provided for by regulation.  
[16] On August 1, 2006, the Tribunal allowed Gaz Métro’s motion contesting the  
words [TRANSLATION] “costs to follow” in the declaration of discontinuance of Danielle  
Varin.24 Considering article 264 of the Code of Civil Procedure,25 the Tribunal then  
decided that the Commission had to bear the costs related to the discontinuance.  
[17] Given the many witnesses who testified at the hearing, the scope of the evidence  
presented by the parties and the factual and legal complexity of the dispute, the  
Tribunal asked the parties to plead in writing. The Tribunal had initially ordered the  
parties to send it the latest replies on or before June 5, 2007.26 However, at the parties’  
request, the Tribunal granted several extensions of the deadlines for submitting  
arguments, replies and additional notes. The Commission filed its written arguments on  
April 5, 2007, ATF on April 10, 2007, the Syndicat on June 1, 2007 and Gaz Métro on  
June 4, 2007. Subsequently, ATF submitted a reply on June 28, 2007 and the  
Commission filed its reply on June 29, 2007. Lastly, Gaz Métro filed additional notes on  
July 3, 2007. The Tribunal took the case under advisement on July 6, 2007.  
[18] In order to ensure optimal consistency and clarity, the Tribunal has structured its  
decision by first presenting an account and analysis of the applicable law (section 2),  
followed by an analysis of the evidence (section 3), the remedial measures (section 4)  
and the conclusions (section 5).  
SECTION 2. APPLICABLE LAW  
[19] Since allegations of systemic discrimination call for usually rather elaborate  
factual evidence, the Tribunal believes it is worthwhile to first discuss the principal legal  
rules applicable in that area in order to be better able to then discuss the relevant  
elements of the evidence adduced by each party. Furthermore, given that the more  
recent jurisprudential developments on the subject have occurred essentially in other  
Canadian jurisdictions, the Tribunal believes it is useful to examine here certain rulings  
by tribunals of first instance specializing therein that shed a helpful light on the factual  
context proper to situations of systemic discrimination.  
23 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Gaz Métro inc. (March  
3, 2006), Montréal 500-53-000204-030, J.E. 2006-896 (QC T.D.P.).  
24 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Gaz Métro inc.  
(August 1, 2006), Montréal 500-53-000204-030, J.E. 2006-1871 (QC T.D.P.).  
25 R.S.Q., c. C-25.  
26 Minutes of January 12, 2007 at 1.  
 
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[20] To properly conduct that exercise, I will successively discuss the nature of  
systemic discrimination and its foundations (2.1), the particularities of the  
evidence relevant to that type of allegation (2.2) and the grounds of defence  
against evidence of systemic discrimination (2.3).  
[21] The main provisions of the Charter that are relevant to this dispute read as  
follows:  
10. Every person has a right to full and equal recognition and exercise of his  
human rights and freedoms, without distinction, exclusion or preference based on  
race, colour, sex, pregnancy, sexual orientation, civil status, age except as  
provided by law, religion, political convictions, language, ethnic or national origin,  
social condition, a handicap or the use of any means to palliate a handicap.  
Discrimination exists where such a distinction, exclusion or preference has the  
effect of nullifying or impairing such right.  
16. No one may practise discrimination in respect of the hiring, apprenticeship,  
duration of the probationary period, vocational training, promotion, transfer,  
displacement, laying-off, suspension, dismissal or conditions of employment of a  
person or in the establishment of categories or classes of employment.  
20. A distinction, exclusion or preference based on the aptitudes or qualifications  
required for an employment … is deemed non-discriminatory.  
49. Any unlawful interference with any right or freedom recognized by this  
Charter entitles the victim to obtain the cessation of such interference and  
compensation for the moral or material prejudice resulting therefrom.  
In case of unlawful and intentional interference, the tribunal may, in addition,  
condemn the person guilty of it to punitive damages.  
80. Where the parties will not agree to negotiation of a settlement or to arbitration  
of the dispute or where the proposal of the commission has not been  
implemented to its satisfaction within the allotted time, the commission may apply  
to a tribunal to obtain, where consistent with the public interest, any appropriate  
measure against the person at fault or to demand, in favour of the victim, any  
measure of redress it considers appropriate at that time.  
86. The object of an affirmative action program is to remedy the situation of  
persons belonging to groups discriminated against in employment, or in the  
sector of education or of health services and other services generally available to  
the public.  
An affirmative action program is deemed non-discriminatory if it is established in  
conformity with the Charter. …  
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88. If, after investigation, the Commission confirms the existence of a situation  
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involving discrimination referred to in section 86, it may propose the  
implementation of an affirmative action program within such time as it may fix.  
Where its proposal has not been followed, the Commission may apply to a  
tribunal and, on proof of the existence of a situation contemplated in section 86,  
obtain, within the time fixed by the tribunal, an order to devise and implement a  
program. The program thus devised is filed with the tribunal which may, in  
accordance with the Charter, make the modifications it considers appropriate.  
90. Where the Commission becomes aware that an affirmative action program  
has not been implemented within the allotted time or is not being complied with, it  
may, in the case of a program it has approved, withdraw its approval or, if it  
proposed implementation of the program, it may apply to a tribunal in accordance  
with the second paragraph of section 88.  
2.1  
Nature and foundation of systemic discrimination  
[22] Over the years, the Canadian courts have gradually clarified the nature of  
systemic discrimination and the particular circumstances in which it has  
developed. In the landmark ruling rendered on the subject by the Supreme  
Court,27 Chief Justice Dickson defined and clarified the notion and underscored  
its involuntary nature:  
[S]ystemic discrimination in an employment context is discrimination that results  
from the simple operation of established procedures of recruitment, hiring and  
promotion, none of which is necessarily designed to promote discrimination. The  
discrimination is then reinforced by the very exclusion of the disadvantaged  
group because the exclusion fosters the belief, both within and outside the group,  
that the exclusion is the result of “natural” forces, for example, that women “just  
can’t do the job”….  
[S]ystemic discrimination is often unintentional. It results from the application of  
established practices and policies that, in effect, have a negative impact upon the  
hiring and advancement prospects of a particular group. It is compounded by the  
attitudes of managers and co-workers who accept stereotyped visions of the  
skills and “proper role” of the affected group, visions which lead to the firmly held  
conviction that members of that group are incapable of doing a particular job,  
even when that conclusion is objectively false.28  
[23] In one of the cases involving the federal Treasury Board, the Canadian Human  
Rights Tribunal (hereinafter referred to as the “Canadian Tribunal”) explained in these  
27 CN v. Canada (Canadian Human Rights Commission), [1987] 1 S.C.R. 1114 (hereinafter referred to as  
Action Travail des Femmes”).  
28 Ibid. at 1139 and 1143.  
 
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terms the inequalities and disparities encountered in the wages and salaries paid to  
women and men for similar duties:  
According to expert opinion, systemic discrimination has no focus or origin, only  
that it develops over time. It is an attitudinal phenomenon which undervalues  
female work and thus differentiates against an individual or group based on  
gender or sex. Research has documented the group of people most commonly  
affected by this type of discrimination are females, and their wages and salaries,  
relative to male wages and salaries, are lower. This kind of discrimination is  
rooted in attitudes, beliefs and mind sets about work traditionally performed by  
males and work traditionally performed by females.29  
[24] In Brome v. Ontario,30 the majority of the Court in turn described the social  
foundations of systemic discrimination:  
Systemic discrimination is a complex underlying social process which is revealed  
by incidents, acts and consequences and is recognized by its impact on specific  
classes of people. Policy and procedures underlie the system and personnel  
visibly represent it. The current challenge for the Commission and the Courts is  
to identify and grapple with the dimensions of systemic discrimination.31  
[25] Let me also mention comments to the same effect by the federal Court of Appeal  
in Public Service Alliance of Canada:  
The concept of systemic discrimination, on the other hand, emphasizes the most  
subtle forms of discrimination, as indicated by the judgment of Dickson, C.J. …. It  
recognizes that long-standing social and cultural mores carry within them value  
assumptions that contribute to discrimination in ways that are substantially or  
entirely hidden and unconscious.32  
[26] According to a broadly shared understanding of the phenomenon, it is  
established that the various manifestations of systemic discrimination in fact refer to:  
… a continuing phenomenon which has its roots deep in history and in societal  
attitudes. It cannot be isolated to a single action or statement. By its very nature,  
it extends over time.33  
[27] The intangible nature of systemic discrimination, the forms of which are  
substantially or entirely hidden and unconscious, was evoked in these terms by  
MacFarland J. in Brome v. Ontario:  
29 Public Service Alliance of Canada v. Canada (Treasury Board), 1996 IIJCan 1874 (C.H.R.T.) at para.  
82.  
30 Brome v. Ontario (Human Rights Commission), (1999) 171 D.L.R. (4th) 538 (Ont. Div. Ct.).  
31 Ibid.  
32 Public Service Alliance of Canada v. Canada (Department of National Defence), [1996] F.C.A. No. 842  
at para. 14.  
33 Ibid. at para. 16.  
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it is to pinpoint. It can include direct or overt discrimination as well as the more  
subtle forms of discrimination such as adverse impact discrimination and  
entrenched and long held discriminatory attitudes and beliefs.34  
[28] As opposed to cases of so-called “indirect” discrimination, in which an apparently  
neutral measure usually results in the exclusion of all the members of the group to  
which the victim belongs, one of the characteristics of systemic discrimination is the  
disproportionate exclusionary effect, which, for the members of a group contemplated  
by a prohibited ground of discrimination, stems from a set of practices, policies and  
attitudes. Practices that generate systemic discrimination do not necessarily result in the  
exclusion of all the members of a protected group inasmuch as some of them may be  
subject to the discrimination without sustaining all its effects.  
[29] That exclusion in turn fuels the biases also underpinning those exclusionary  
practices. The facts adduced before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal in Action  
Travail des Femmes35 are to that effect, since the evidence established various types of  
negative perceptions of, and attitudes toward, women doing manual work, even the very  
opportunity for them to penetrate a workplace traditionally reserved for men.  
[30] But the marked absence of women and, more broadly, groups of people  
contemplated by the prohibition of discrimination in certain spheres of social activity in  
turn generated the absence of consideration of their point of view, their experience and  
some of their characteristics when institutional standards or norms were developed.  
[31] In 1984, the Abella report on equality in employment36 identified two classic  
situations at the root of systemic discrimination. The first refers to “a disparately  
negative impact that flows from the structure of systems designed for a homogeneous  
constituency”37 on people outside the environment who cannot meet the prerequisites  
designed according to the characteristics of that same environment. According to the  
Report, the solution is to:  
… systematically eradicate the impediments to these options according to the  
actual needs of the different groups, not according to what we think their needs  
should be. And we have to give individuals an opportunity to use their abilities  
according to their potential and not according to what we think their potential  
should be. …  
34 Brome v. Ontario (Human Rights Commission), supra note 30.  
35 Action Travail des Femmes v. Canadian National, (1984) 5 C.H.R.R. D/2327 (C.H.R.T.; hereinafter  
referred to as the “ATF case”).  
36 Abella, Rosalie Silberman, Report of the Commission on Equality in Employment (Ottawa: Supply and  
Services Canada, 1984).  
37 Ibid. at 9. The second situation in the report concerns the practices, inspired by stereotyped  
characteristics attributed to people belonging to protected groups, which have a detrimental effect on  
them.  
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quickly as possible the results of parochial perspectives which unfairly restrict  
women, native people, disabled persons, and visible minorities.38  
[32] Syme v. Canada39 also illustrates the impact of practices adopted according to  
homogeneous environments. The Supreme Court had to decide whether the fees that a  
professional woman paid for her children’s care constituted a business expenses that  
was deductible from gross income within the meaning of the federal income tax  
legislation. The “classic” jurisprudence, which was developed in a context where the  
presence of women in certain sectors of activity was very limited, if not non-existent,  
was based on a traditional conception of a company viewed according to the needs of  
businessmen alone. In a dissenting opinion, L’Heureux-Dubé J. explained the  
consequences in these terms:  
[W]hen only one sex is involved in defining the ideas, rules and values in a  
particular domain, that one-sided standpoint comes to be seen as natural, obvious  
and general. As a consequence, the male standard now frames the backdrop of  
assumptions against which expenses are determined to be, or not to be, legitimate  
business expenses. Against this backdrop, it is hardly surprising that child care was  
seen as irrelevant to the end of gaining or producing income from business but  
rather as a personal non-deductible expense.40  
[33] From the same standpoint, the study of the equality of the sexes in the legal  
profession41 chaired by Madam Justice Bertha Wilson, then sitting on the Supreme  
Court, identified the cultural values prevailing in the Court as one of main causes of the  
discrimination experienced by women lawyers, because:  
[t]hat culture has been shaped by and for male lawyers. It is predicated on  
historical work patterns that assume that lawyers do not have significant family  
responsibilities. The “hidden gender” of the current arrangements for legal work  
manifests itself in many ways, including: the extremely long and irregular hours of  
work; assumptions about the availability of domestic labour to support a lawyer’s  
activities at work; promotion within law firms which is incompatible with the child  
bearing and child rearing cycles of most women’s lives; and the perceived  
conflict between allegiances owed to work and family.42  
38 Ibid. at 4.  
39 Syme v. Canada [1993] 4 S.C.R. 695.  
40 Ibid. at 798. Considering the composition of the labour market at the time, Madam Justice L’Heureux-  
Dubé believed that the notion of business expense must accordingly take into consideration the needs of  
all workers: “The practices and requirements of businesswomen may, in fact, differ from those of  
businessmen. … one of the critical differences in the needs of businessmen and businesswomen is the  
importance of child care for business people with children, particularly women. … child care is vital to  
women’s ability to earn an income. … In my view, Ms. Symes’ child care expenses come within the definition  
of “the purpose of gaining or producing income”, at 798-799.  
41 Canadian Bar Association, Touchstones for Change: Equality, Diversity and Accountability, 1993.  
42 Ibid. at 70.  
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[34] We find another interesting illustration of this situation in the decision handed  
down in first instance in Ayangma.43 The case concerned the refusal to hire a candidate  
from a visible minority for a race relations consultant position, to the benefit of a White  
candidate who was less qualified but more familiar with the work environment. After  
noting the inequitable composition of the selection committee, from which a candidate  
from a racial minority had been deliberately excluded, and the lack of planning in the  
process followed, the Court found that the committee’s action showed, at the very least,  
an unconscious bias in favour of people already in the environment, and, therefore,  
probably not from visible minorities. It concluded that such an approach necessarily  
generates discrimination toward the members of that group:  
Systemic discrimination refers to a process problem as opposed to an attitudinal  
problem. … The manner in which the Committee went about reviewing the  
applicants for the Race Relations Consultant position focussed as it was upon  
“inside” experience — made it highly unlikely that any racial minority would be  
able to win the competition. … in a single hiring process systemic discrimination  
can often be found when people look at personal suitability, ie. how a person  
would “fit in”. This usually means that an analysis is being made of how much the  
person is like the people already there. That is part of the problem in the instant  
case, with its focus on someone who already knew the system.  
Those requirements may not be phrased in discriminatory terms but they are  
very exclusive excluding almost anyone who is different and specifically  
excluding anyone who had not already had an opportunity to work in the system.  
Since there were virtually no visible minorities in the system, the potential impact  
upon them was much greater than upon Caucasians.44  
[35] These examples clearly show that, despite wholly legitimate motivations, the  
criterion of “personal suitability” for a given work environment can, in fact, contribute to  
the disproportionate exclusion of candidates belonging to groups now contemplated by  
the prohibition of discrimination, who, in the past, remained outside environments where  
various institutional standards and norms, nay, organizational cultures, were developed  
without taking into consideration such people’s characteristics and needs.  
[36] Hence, the Tribunal believes it is now appropriate to define systemic  
discrimination as the cumulative effects of disproportionate exclusion resulting from the  
combined impact of attitudes marked by often unconscious biases and stereotypes, and  
policies and practices generally adopted without taking into consideration the  
characteristics of the members of groups contemplated by the prohibition of  
discrimination.  
43 Ayangma v. Govt. of PEI, [2000] P.E.I.J. No. 97, (2000) PESCTD 74.  
44 Ibid. at paras. 121 and 124; emphasis added. The decision was quashed on appeal, not because the  
criteria applied were themselves erroneous, but because the Court essentially considered that there was  
no intention in the case to deliberately exclude members of visible minorities from the selection committee  
and process.  
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[37] The societal underpinnings of systemic discrimination, its subtle manifestations  
and the fact that it stems from usually unconscious motivations are not without  
consequence for the difficulties encountered by a plaintiff in establishing systemic  
discrimination, by preponderant evidence, through its various manifestations.  
[38] In that regard, the Federal Court of Appeal overturned, in Public Service Alliance  
of Canada,45 the conclusion of the court of first instance that a degree of proof nearing  
certainty and conviction was required in order to award the remedy sought because of  
the systemic discrimination practised. According to Hugessen J.:  
The burden which a complainant before a Human Rights Tribunal must carry  
cannot, in my opinion, be placed any higher than the ordinary civil burden of the  
balance of probabilities. That is a long way from certainty and simply means that  
the complainant must show that his position is more likely than not. It is no valid  
defence for the opposite party to say that things might have been otherwise, for  
that will almost always be the case where the civil burden is in play. If a thing  
probably happened in a certain way, then by definition it might possibly have  
happened in a completely different way. It was error for the Tribunal to reject  
evidence simply because it did not exclude other possibilities unfavourable to the  
complainant. The Judge not only failed to identify that error but compounded it by  
his repeated insistence on the requirement of “certainty” in the establishment of  
the extent of the wage gap.46  
[39] In the report that contributed to the recognition of systemic discrimination by the  
courts, the content of which is still useful today in that area, Abella J., then  
commissioner, indicated the following:  
It is not a question of whether this [systemic] discrimination is motivated by an  
intentional desire to obstruct someone’s potential, or whether it is the accidental  
by-product of innocently motivated practices or systems. If the barrier is affecting  
certain groups in a disproportionately negative way, it is a signal that the  
practices that lead to this adverse impact may be discriminatory.  
That is why it is important to look at the results of a system.47  
2.2.1 Some manifestations of systemic discrimination  
[40] On the scale of businesses, evidence of the disproportionate exclusion of the  
members of groups protected from discrimination in employment therefore requires an  
examination of the on-going policies, attitudes and concrete practices in matters of  
recruitment, selection, hiring, promotion and working conditions, in order to determine to  
45 Public Service Alliance of Canada v. Canada (Department of National Defence), supra note 32.  
46 Ibid. at para. 33.  
47 As cited by Chief Justice Dickson in Action Travail des Femmes, supra note 27 at para. 34; emphasis  
added.  
   
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what extent they contribute or not to that situation so that the corrective measures  
required can be implemented to eliminate the discriminatory effects. When seized of  
allegations of systemic discrimination in employment, Canadian courts thus examine the  
respondent employer’s entire hiring and staffing processes so as to find the elements  
that can explain the disproportionate exclusionary effect.  
[41] In the AFT case, the examination of the consequences of employment practices  
and systems led the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal to analyse the entire process  
followed:  
… to determine whether the practices that resulted in a very small number of  
women in blue-collar jobs at CN are justified …  
To do this, the Tribunal believes it is necessary to examine the whole process  
rather than isolated parts of it. From the whole we can obtain an overall picture of  
CN’s system for screening job applications.48  
[42] In that case, the obligation to pass certain mechanical tests and to have welding  
knowledge disproportionately excluded female candidates from certain unskilled blue-  
collar jobs. As women had a significantly higher rate of failure than men, the Canadian  
Tribunal concluded that there was evidence of prima facie discrimination requiring  
justification by the employer.  
[43] A conclusion of systemic discrimination was also issued by the Canadian  
Tribunal in Green.49 That case concerned more particularly the obligation for candidates  
for a managerial position to pass a test that measured their aptitude to learn another  
language and its effect was to exclude candidates who, like the complainant, had  
dyslexia in the auditory processing of information.  
[44] According to the Canadian Tribunal, a lack of comprehension of the nature of  
learning disabilities, and of the steps required to accommodate them, coupled with  
shortcomings in staff training, explained the general inability to adapt the theories  
officially conveyed regarding employment equity to the practices established, at all  
levels, in order to implement them:  
[E]mployees involved in this matter, while having good intentions, had little or no  
effective training in how to deal with the theory of accommodation. … they had  
no authority to make a recommendation or a decision concerning the need to  
accommodate a person with a learning disability whose ability to participate in  
48 The AFT case, supra note 35 at paras. 19781 and 19782. That comprehensive approach led the  
Tribunal to group the hiring practices into four phases in order to examine: (1) practices concerning  
information and advertising about the positions offered at CN; (2) reception at the employment office; (3)  
employment criteria; and (4) reception in the workplace.  
49 Green v. Canada (Public Service Commission), 1998 2101 (C.H.R.T.).  
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second language training could not be established by the usual methodology, the  
Orientation Process.50  
[45] Since the Public Service Commission of Canada, the respondent in the case,  
invoked the impossibility, for administrative reasons, of accommodating Ms. Green’s  
disability, which was discovered after the test, the Canadian Tribunal also believed that  
the institutional attitudes and existing practices prevented the Commission from  
applying its own human rights policies. Once Ms. Green’s case was known, no greater  
consideration was given to the possibility that the test constituted a systemic obstacle  
for other people with learning disabilities. The Tribunal concluded that it is the acts and  
attitudes of the employers that caused systemic-type discrimination against employees  
with that disability.  
[46] National Capital Alliance on Race Relations v. Canada (Department of Health &  
Welfare)51 dealt with allegations of systemic discrimination in staffing practices in effect  
at Health Canada (hereinafter referred to as “HC”) against persons from visible  
minorities wishing to fill managerial positions, in a context marked by the stated  
determination to increase the number of employees from such minorities in the federal  
government.  
[47] The evidence showed that, in 1993, only one of the 118 senior management  
positions was held by a person from that group, a ratio of 0.8%.52 The parties’ experts  
could not agree on the rate of representation of minorities. The complainant’s expert  
estimated the figure to be less than 10% of their availability and the defence’s experts at  
30%. The Canadian Tribunal nevertheless concluded that, regardless of the figures  
accepted, “it is clear that … there is a significant under-representation of visible  
minorities in HC senior management”.53  
[48] Then, examining the staff practices in effect, the Canadian Tribunal noted that  
recruitment for those positions was very low in the professional feeder groups with a  
high proportion of the members of the excluded group (i.e. people from visible  
minorities), which led the Tribunal to note the existence of a bottleneck. On the other  
hand, recruitment was very high in groups with no visible minority representation.  
[49] Furthermore, 65% of the staffing measures applied during the period studied  
took the form of acting appointments generally made informally, with no notice or  
competition, and without all the employees being systematically informed. Whites  
obtained more of those appointments than members of racial minorities (45% compared  
with 34%), the gap being greater among older, more educated employees having  
accumulated more seniority and more supervisory responsibilities.  
50 Ibid.  
51 National Capital Alliance on Race Relations v. Canada (Department of Health & Welfare), [1997]  
IIJCan 1433 (C.H.R.T.).  
52 Ibid. at 3.  
53 Ibid. at 8.  
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[50] The evidence explained that phenomenon by showing that the managers of  
White employees asked them more often to submit their candidacy, whereas racial  
minorities had to count more on their own efforts to find out about opportunities. More  
concretely, 42% of White respondents had supervised other employees, compared with  
32% for people from racial minorities. Furthermore, by sitting on a selection board,  
Whites were nearly twice as likely to be associated in the hiring and promotion decision-  
making processes.  
[51] According to the Canadian Tribunal, the informal processes used for  
appointments to acting positions also had a “chilling effect” on minorities, who feared  
they would not be evaluated according to their qualifications or treated fairly given the  
greater risk of biases in a non-standardized process.  
[52] Lastly, one of the experts for the complainant had found, in the testimony of  
certain victims and a memorandum written by the chief of staff relations, a marked  
perception among certain senior officers that members of visible minorities were  
culturally unfit for management positions: “Visible minorities are viewed by senior  
management as culturally different within HC and are not considered suitable for  
managerial positions”.54 According to that expert, such a situation fueled the stereotype  
according to which there is only one way to successfully perform the duties of a job and  
the belief that only one set of people from a more homogeneous culture can act  
adequately.  
[53] Having completed its analysis of the employment practices, the Canadian  
Tribunal concluded that:  
The failure of visible minorities to progress into management cannot be explained  
by a lack of interest or lack of technical or professional skills on the part of these  
visible minorities. …  
There are a number of staffing practices of HC that have a disproportionately  
negative effect on visible minorities in HC which the Tribunal finds to be  
discriminatory.55  
[54] I will shortly discuss how under-representation of the members of a group  
contemplated by the prohibition of discrimination can constitute one of the  
manifestations of systemic discrimination in employment. But first, a few comments are  
in order regarding the role of statistical evidence in that regard.  
2.2.2 Utility of statistical evidence  
[55] The Tribunal mentioned earlier that, in the jurisprudence concerning the  
discriminatory effect of neutral employment standards, all (100%) people practising the  
54 Ibid. at 28.  
55 Ibid. at 27 and 30.  
 
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same religion or with the same disability as the victim were also affected; the  
discriminatory effect was therefore absolute. However, the situation was different in the  
case of women or other members of protected groups, who are excluded  
disproportionately from certain jobs or occupational opportunities. Given that, is there a  
minimum percentage of disparity or under-representation below which it cannot be  
concluded that systemic discrimination exists? In other words, what importance should  
statistical evidence be given?  
[56] The jurisprudence on the subject has concluded that statistical evidence is useful  
if it is available and relevant to the allegations to be proven, but it is not necessary. By  
indicating the disparities or differences between the number (or utilization rate) of  
women or members of protected groups hired for a particular job and the number of  
qualified women or members of those groups on the labour market (the availability rate),  
statistical evidence can indicate the need to evaluate certain management methods or  
“patterns of conduct”, including subjective and discretionary decisions that have  
disproportionately exclusionary effects. That type of evidence can make it possible to  
establish discrimination against those people in the hiring methods or systems used.  
[57] Meiorin56 concerns the validity of a requirement consisting in passing a test of  
aerobic capacity that disproportionately excluded female candidates for a job as a forest  
firefighter in British Columbia. Without saying whether a specific percentage of disparity  
was required or not, the Supreme Court concluded that there was prima facie evidence  
of discrimination since the failure rate was 30%-35% among men and 65% among  
women.  
[58] In a unanimous judgment rendered in 2005 regarding an application for judicial  
review,57 the Federal Court of Appeal quashed the decision of a Canadian Human  
Rights Commission investigator who ignored statistical evidence, submitted by the  
complainant during the investigation, that was both reliable and relevant on its face.  
[59] In that case, there were allegations of systemic discrimination in employment by  
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police against members of visible minorities. On the basis  
of the data in the reports submitted by the employer, the complainant had estimated the  
rate of attrition of candidates admitted to the training program for all cadets at 7% from  
1996 to 2000. When candidates from visible minorities were excluded from the data for  
the group as a whole, the rate of attrition dropped to 5.8%, whereas the rate of attrition  
among cadets from those minorities was nearly 16%. Furthermore, even though they  
accounted for only 12% of cadets during that period, visible minorities represented  
nearly 28% of total attritions.  
[60] Pointing out that the examination of a complaint must be based on a thorough  
investigation by the Commission, the Federal Court of Appeal noted that, even though  
56 British Columbia (Public Service Employee Relations Commission) v. BCGSEU, [1999] 3 S.C.R. 536  
(hereinafter referred to as “Meiorin”).  
57 Tahmourpour v. Canada (Solicitor General), [2005] F.C.A. No. 543, 2005 FCA 113.  
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the investigation report referred to certain statistics supplied by Mr. Tahmourpour, it  
excluded those that, according to him, showed a much higher attrition rate among  
minority cadets. According to Evans J., writing for the Court:  
[T]he statistics provided by Mr. Tahmourpour to show different rates of attrition …  
related to an allegation within the scope of the complaint.  
[E]vidence of differential rates of attrition may suggest the existence of an RCMP  
policy or practice concerning the training and hiring of cadets that tends to  
deprive members of visible minorities of employment opportunities.58  
[61] The Federal Court of Appeal therefore concluded that the Commission’s refusal  
to analyse that numerical data was tantamount to a breach of the duty of fairness and it  
therefore remitted the matter to the Commission so that it could resume its investigation.  
[62] In the decision rendered in 2005 in Radek,59 the British Columbia Human Rights  
Tribunal examined various aspects of the evidence adduced in support of allegations of  
systemic discrimination against people of Aboriginal origin and/or with a handicap, who  
sought to obtain a service normally offered to the public, namely, access to a shopping  
mall. The Tribunal commented as follows on the absence of statistical data in the case  
of which it was seized and the consequences thereof:  
In this case, for example, there was absolutely no evidence of the racial makeup  
of the people entering International Village. We do not know if 5% or 25% of the  
people attempting to enter the mall were Aboriginal. In the absence of this  
information, it would, even with the best and most reliable information about the  
racial makeup of persons ejected from the mall (which we did not have), be  
impossible to determine if Aboriginal people were ejected from the mall in  
numbers disproportionate to the rate at which they visited the mall. Such  
evidence would be useful, and would strongly tend to suggest discrimination, if it  
was available, but for the reasons I have given it is not. … A discriminatory effect  
can also be proven in other ways. If, for example, the effect of the respondents’  
policies and practices was that Aboriginal people tended to be wrongly viewed as  
suspicious, and thus discriminated against, then that would be sufficient to  
establish a negative or discriminatory effect, regardless of the proportion of  
Aboriginal people so viewed in relation to the population as a whole. If that was  
the effect of the respondents’ practices, it would not matter how many Aboriginal  
people were affected, or what proportion they made up of the whole population of  
visitors to the mall.  
58 Ibid. at paras. 22 et 23.  
59 Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) and Securiguard Services No. 3, [2005] BCHRT No. 302.  
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attitudes are present which have the effect of limiting persons’ opportunities due  
to their membership in one or more protected groups. In this regard, evidence  
about the attitudes of the respondents and their employees, evidence of the  
written and unwritten policies of the respondents, and evidence of the  
respondents’ actual practices, both generally and in particular circumstances,  
may all be relevant to, and probative of, the question of whether systemic  
discrimination is present.60  
[63] Easier to obtain in an employment context, because of the employer’s legal  
obligations, than in a context of the provision of services, statistical evidence can also  
be difficult to gather, if not inaccessible, for an alleged victim or victims, who depend  
largely in that regard on the defence’s data collection and record-keeping policies.  
Therefore, to ensure that human rights legislation achieves its remedial goal, the nature  
of the evidence required in order to establish a situation of systemic discrimination can  
vary according to the nature and context of each case.  
[64] In the absence of statistical evidence in Radek, the British Columbia Tribunal  
analysed in detail the internal policies (“site post orders”)61 of the shopping mall,  
designed to guide and oversee guards in interventions leading to the expulsion of  
individuals. The Tribunal thus verified whether, despite their apparent neutrality, certain  
elements would be likely to cause, on the basis of biases and stereotypes (such as the  
abuse of narcotics or alcohol), discriminatory and unfavourable treatment of people of  
Aboriginal original and those with a disability.62  
[65] In doing so, the Tribunal pointed out that those elements must be analysed  
considering the fact that they are interrelated in a way that has a cumulative effect:  
I discuss the effects on Aboriginal and disabled people of each of the significant  
aspects of the site post order below. While I have separated out the various  
elements of the site post order for ease of analysis, it must be remembered that  
in practice the criteria listed in the site post order did not exist in hermetically  
sealed compartments. In practice, guards would make decisions about people  
entering the mall on the basis of a global assessment, in which these criteria  
would play interrelated roles.63  
60 Ibid. at paras. 512 and 513.  
61 For example, the written policy contained the following prescriptions: “zero tolerance for suspicious  
people … zero tolerance for vagrants …”, as well as indications regarding clothing (“ripped and dirty  
clothing”) and “attitudes when approached and non-willingness to answer any questions we may  
propose”).  
62 For example, “[m]any of the chronic health conditions which are prevalent in the Aboriginal community  
can cause deficits in balance, gait, or appearance and can contribute to the likelihood that a non-  
aboriginal person would perceive them to be ‘suspicious’, or appear to be intoxicated or stoned, or simply  
unable to respond quickly to questioning from security personnel, and hence appear to have an ‘attitude  
when approached’”, at para. 83. It follows that “[m]embers of the Aboriginal community may differentially  
appear ‘suspicious’ to non-aboriginal people”, at para. 84.  
63 Ibid. at para. 547.  
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[66] The British Columbia Tribunal also drew a parallel between the application of the  
elements of the shopping mall’s policy and the stereotypes frequently attributed to  
members of Aboriginal populations.64 It conducted a comprehensive examination of the  
evidence, which led it to conclude that the application of a policy containing vague and  
ill-defined terms leaves room for arbitrariness and subjectivity. This was true, in  
particular, of the terms “suspect” and “vagrant”, which, in the Tribunal’s opinion, entailed  
a high risk that the guards, because of their biases and lack of human rights training,  
would apply too easily to private individuals of Aboriginal origin and deny them access  
to the shopping mall. In light of the evidence as a whole, the Tribunal concluded that  
there was discrimination:  
The opportunity to walk into a shopping mall and buy a cup of coffee, go for an  
inexpensive meal, use a bank machine, or simply pass through on the way to  
public transportation, is one which the majority of Canadians take for granted.  
The practices of the respondents had the effect of systematically denying the  
Aboriginal and disabled people of the Downtown Eastside that opportunity. It  
made them strangers in their own community.65  
[67] Evidence of systemic discrimination thus rests essentially on a set of facts, such  
as institutional policies, decision-making procedures, behaviours and attitudes that, in  
an often apparently unconscious and innocuous way, have and maintain, when  
combined, disproportionately exclusionary effects on members of groups contemplated  
by the prohibition of discrimination. As useful as it is when available and relevant,  
statistical evidence is not, in fact, indispensable in demonstrating discrimination.  
2.3  
Grounds of defence in cases of systemic discrimination  
[68] After the plaintiff establishes proof of discrimination in employment, the employer  
can avoid responsibility by showing that, in accordance with the requirements of section  
20 of the Charter, the contested exclusion is “based on the aptitudes or qualifications  
required for an employment”.  
[69] To that end, the employer must demonstrate:  
(1)  
that the employer adopted the standard for a purpose rationally connected  
to the performance of the job;  
(2)  
(3)  
…;  
that the standard is reasonably necessary to the accomplishment of that  
legitimate work-related purpose. To show that the standard is reasonably  
necessary, it must be demonstrated that it is impossible to accommodate  
64 Referring to the expert evidence, the Tribunal mentioned several times those of the “drunken Indian”  
and the “degenerate or degraded Indian”.  
65 Ibid. at para. 606.  
 
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individual employees sharing the characteristics of the claimant without  
imposing undue hardship upon the employer.66  
[70] The Tribunal notes here the irrelevance of the second criteria stated in Meiorin,  
i.e. that the employer adopted the particular standard in an honest and good faith belief  
that it was necessary to the fulfillment of that legitimate work-related purpose. In  
Québec law, the two requirements mentioned above are the only ones that apply since  
the elimination, in the 1982 amendments to section 20, of the subjective component of  
the defence of a justified occupational requirement:  
[TRANSLATION]  
By then substituting for the aptitudes and skills “required in good faith for” an  
employment the aptitudes and qualifications “required by” an employment, the  
legislator reinforced the objective criterion already implied in the previous version  
of section 20 and, in doing so, indicated the thoroughness now required in  
examining the justification invoked. Furthermore, the 1982 legislative amendment  
also eliminated any reference to the prior requirement of good faith.67  
[71] Among the grounds explaining the approach established in Meiorin, the Supreme  
Court mentioned its greater effectiveness in combating systemic discrimination. Bear in  
mind that, as in the case at bar, Meiorin concerned an employment requirement (a test  
measuring aerobic capacity) that disproportionately excluded women who wanted to  
have a non-traditional job (forest firefighter) in British Columbia. I will now examine the  
two requirements applicable in Québec law and focus more particularly on their effects  
in a context of systemic discrimination toward women.  
2.3.1 Requirements essential to safe and efficient performance of  
the work  
[72] Systemic discrimination in employment is characterized by, among other things,  
disproportionate exclusionary effects stemming from institutional recruitment, hiring and  
promotion policies that are, in general, apparently neutral. Hence, did the justification  
test provided for in Meiorin first subject those policies and practices to a rationality test  
that the conventional approach applied before that case did not require? According to  
Meiorin:  
[I]f a standard is classified as being “neutral” at the threshold stage of the inquiry,  
its legitimacy is never questioned. The focus shifts to whether the individual  
claimant can be accommodated, and the formal standard itself always remains  
intact. The conventional analysis thus shifts attention away from the substantive  
66 Meiorin, supra at note 56.  
67 Dufour v. Centre hospitalier St-Joseph-de-la-Malbaie, [1992] R.J.Q. 825 at 843 (Rivet J.), judgment  
quashed on appeal, in regard to another issue. That conclusion is inferred from the reasons of Beetz J. in  
Brossard (City) v. Commission des droits de la personne, [1988] 2 S.C.R. 279. See also CDPDJ (Stortini)  
v. De Luxe Produits de papier Inc., D.T.E. 2003T-288 (QC T.D.P.); Chantal Masse, “Le critère unifié de  
l’affaire Meiorin dans le contexte de la défense prévue à l’article 20 de la Charte québécoise : la non-  
application du volet subjectif relatif à la bonne foi de l’employeur”, in Barreau du Québec, Les 25 ans de  
la Charte québécoise (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2000) at 65.  
 
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norms underlying the standard, to how “different” individuals can fit into the  
“mainstream”, represented by the standard.68  
[73] The Supreme Court mentioned the criticism by certain authors of the limitations  
of that approach:  
Accommodation, conceived this way, appears to be rooted in the formal model of  
equality. … Accommodation does not go to the heart of the equality question, to  
the goal of transformation, to an examination of the way institutions and relations  
must be changed in order to make them available, accessible, meaningful and  
rewarding for the many diverse groups of which our society is composed.  
Accommodation seems to mean that we do not change procedures or services,  
we simply “accommodate” those who do not quite fit. …69  
[74] Subscribing to that analysis, the Supreme Court underscored the disadvantages  
of its application to the case before it:  
This case, where Ms. Meiorin seeks to keep her position in a male-dominated  
occupation, is a good example of how the conventional analysis shields systemic  
discrimination from scrutiny. This analysis prevents the Court from rigorously  
assessing a standard which, in the course of regulating entry to a male-  
dominated occupation, adversely affects women as a group. Although the  
Government may have a duty to accommodate an individual claimant, the  
practical result of the conventional analysis is that the complex web of seemingly  
neutral, systemic barriers to traditionally male-dominated occupations remains  
beyond the direct reach of the law. The right to be free from discrimination is  
reduced to a question of whether the “mainstream” can afford to confer proper  
treatment on those adversely affected, within the confines of its existing formal  
standard. If it cannot, the edifice of systemic discrimination receives the law’s  
approval. This cannot be right.70  
[75] Hence, to avoid maintaining, or even reinforcing, standards with a systemic  
exclusionary effect, a strict application of the requirement of rationality provided for in  
the first stage of the test in Meiorin is required. It is at that first stage that a tribunal  
determines whether the purpose of a discriminatory standard is rationally connected  
with the objective requirements of the employment concerned. A standard that does not  
meet that requirement can simply not be maintained, and no measure can, a posteriori,  
re-establish its validity within the meaning of the Charter. According to professor  
Colleen Sheppard, this approach:  
68 Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 40.  
69 S. Day and G. Brodsky, “The Duty to Accommodate: Who Will Benefit?” (1993) Can. Bar Rev. 433 at  
462.  
70 Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 42.  
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according to special or exceptional treatment to individuals otherwise excluded or  
disadvantaged by institutional norms, policies, or practices.71  
[76] In short, that approach implies a thorough evaluation of the real utility of the  
discriminatory rules in terms of their effects. In the opposite case, it requires their  
reformulation, or even their transformation, so that they promote genuine substantial or  
real equality (as opposed to purely formal equality).  
[77] In Meiorin, the Supreme Court noted in that regard that the purpose of the  
aerobic standard required of all candidates and disproportionately excluding women  
was to identify employees or candidates who were able to perform the work of a forest  
firefighter safely and efficiently. In that regard, it concluded that there was evidently “a  
rational connection between this general characteristic and the performance of the  
particularly strenuous tasks expected of a forest firefighter”.72  
[78] In contrast, the policies for monitoring the clientele of a shopping mall did not  
meet the requirement of rationality in Radek,73 examined earlier. According to the British  
Columbia Tribunal, there was no rational connection between the exclusion of people  
who smelled badly or wore torn clothing, and mall security. Noting that an effort was  
made to specifically exclude two subgroups of disabled persons, i.e. consumers of  
narcotics and people with HIV, the Tribunal ruled that such discriminatory exclusion was  
not connected with maintaining a secure environment.  
2.3.2 Minimal requirements not likely to be reasonably  
accommodated  
[79] Equally important, the second stage, in Québec law, of the test in Meiorin is  
aimed at evaluating whether the employer can, without undue hardship, reasonably  
accommodate the excluded person or group by adopting a standard that does not have  
that effect:  
Employers designing workplace standards owe an obligation to be aware of both  
the differences between individuals, and differences that characterize groups of  
individuals. They must build conceptions of equality into workplace standards. By  
enacting human rights statutes and providing that they are applicable to the  
workplace, the legislatures have determined that the standards governing the  
performance of work should be designed to reflect all members of society, in so  
far as this is reasonably possible. Courts and tribunals must bear this in mind  
when confronted with a claim of employment-related discrimination. To the extent  
that a standard unnecessarily fails to reflect the differences among individuals, it  
runs afoul of the prohibitions contained in the various human rights statutes and  
71 Colleen Sheppard, “Of Forest Fires and Systemic Discrimination: A Review of British Colombia (Public  
Service Employee Relations Commission) v. B.C.G.S.E.U.” (2001) 46 McGill L.J. 533 at 550.  
72 Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 71.  
73 Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) and Securiguard Services (No. 3), supra note 59.  
 
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accommodation, if reasonably possible. A standard that allows for such  
accommodation may be only slightly different from the existing standard but it is  
a different standard nonetheless.74  
[80] To be as inclusive (or the least discriminatory) as possible and to accommodate  
the potential contribution of all candidates with the capacity to perform the work safely  
and efficiently, the standard that makes it possible to gauge that capacity must, unless  
the employer is subjected to undue hardship: (1) be set at a minimum level at which it is  
possible to meet those requirements; and (2) be adjusted according to the various ways  
that candidates from certain groups (such as women or disabled people) can meet  
them.  
[81] In other words, the approach consists in first evaluating the intrinsic validity of  
certain occupational requirements in order to ensure they correspond to the minimum  
qualifications required to do the job concerned. If they do correspond to the minimum  
qualifications, it must then be ascertained whether adjustments or modifications  
allowing people otherwise excluded to be included can in fact be made without causing  
undue hardship for the employer.  
[82] Examining each requirement, it follows that the employer must first adopt a  
standard “properly designed to ensure that the desired qualification is met without  
placing an undue burden on those to whom the standard applies”.75 In Meiorin, after  
noting that the standard related to the candidates’ aerobic capacity corresponded to the  
average capacity of the firefighter employees and candidates, the Supreme Court found  
that that average performance did not, however, make it possible to know whether the  
so-called standard constituted “the minimum qualification required to perform the job  
safely and efficiently”.76 According to the Court:  
The polymorphous group’s average aerobic performance is irrelevant to the  
question of whether the aerobic standard constitutes a minimum threshold that  
cannot be altered without causing undue hardship to the employer.  
In fact, the expert reports filed by the Government in these proceedings content  
themselves with asserting that the aerobic standard set in 1992 and 1994 is a  
minimum standard that women can meet with appropriate training. No studies  
were conducted to substantiate the latter assertion and the arbitrator rejected it  
as unsupported by the evidence.77  
74 Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 68. See to the same effect para. 19 of Grismer: British Columbia  
(Superintendent of Motor Vehicles) v. British Columbia (Council of Human Rights), [1999] 3 S.C.R.  
868.  
75 Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 65.  
76 Ibid at para. 82; emphasis added.  
77 Ibid at paras. 76 and 77.  
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[83] An employer who meets its obligation of imposing an occupational requirement  
that makes it minimally possible to perform the work safely and efficiently must then  
ascertain whether it is possible, without incurring undue hardship, to meet that standard  
by having the work performed in different ways or having recourse to alternative  
methods that do not have discriminatory effects. It is then a matter of “measur[ing]  
whether members of all groups require the same … capacity to perform the job safely  
and efficiently and, if not, to reflect that disparity in the employment qualifications”.78  
The questions that a tribunal will examine to that end include the following:  
(b) If alternative standards were investigated and found to be capable of fulfilling  
the employer’s purpose, why were they not implemented?  
(c) Is it necessary to have all employees meet the single standard for the  
employer to accomplish its legitimate purpose or could standards reflective of  
group or individual differences and capabilities be established?  
(d) Is there a way to do the job that is less discriminatory while still accomplishing  
the employer’s legitimate purpose?79  
[84] That dual obligation for the employer to adopt a standard both minimally  
necessary to the safe and efficient performance of the work and likely to provide  
reasonable accommodations, without undue hardship, raised this comment by professor  
Sheppard concerning the approach established by the Supreme Court:  
It is absolutely critical for McLachlin J. that institutional norms, policies, and  
practices be scrutinized and overhauled whenever possible as part of the project  
of securing greater substantive equality. Nevertheless, individual accommodation  
remains essential as well. … It should not be an excuse to avoid scrutinizing the  
underlying validity of institutional norms, but rather a mechanism to ensure  
inclusion when revision of the underlying practices is not possible. Both  
components are necessary and important.80  
[85] Bear in mind that the employer can invoke the following in particular as evidence  
of undue hardship:  
… financial cost, disruption of a collective agreement, problems of morale of other  
employees, interchangeability of work force and facilities. The size of the  
employer’s operation may influence the assessment of whether a given financial  
cost is undue or the ease with which the workforce and facilities can be adapted to  
the circumstances. Where safety is at issue both the magnitude of the risk and the  
identity of those who bear it are relevant considerations. This list is not intended to  
be exhaustive and the results which will obtain from a balancing of these factors  
78 Ibid at para. 76.  
79 Ibid at para. 65.  
80 C. Sheppard, “Of Forest Fires and Systemic Discrimination: A Review of British Colombia (Public  
Service Employee Relations Commission) v. B.C.G.S.E.U.”, supra note 71.  
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against the right of the employee to be free from discrimination will necessarily vary  
from case to case.81  
[86] Noting the absence of evidence adduced by the employer, in first instance,  
regarding undue hardship that could have stemmed from a standard reflecting Ms.  
Meiorin’s capacities and potential contribution, while making it possible to identify  
women able to perform the work safely and efficiently, the Supreme Court concluded  
that the employer did not establish that the aerobic standard constituted an occupational  
requirement justified within the meaning of the British Columbia Human Rights Code.  
[87] In Green, mentioned early, the Public Service Commission of Canada  
contended, as respondent, that it was impossible to accommodate the complainant after  
the language aptitude test was given, when her disability was discovered. The  
Canadian Human Rights Tribunal commented as follows on the disparity between the  
official policy of the body in regard to reasonable accommodation and its refusal to  
apply it in the complainant’s case:  
[T]he theory, as enunciated by Ms. Ward, is that “the Commission is a strong  
proponent of human rights and will do everything. All its policies are reviewed  
constantly to make sure that there is no discrimination. When we set policy, we  
ensure that we look at the whole employment equity”. …  
From the evidence it would appear that it did nothing to accommodate Ms. Green  
because the after-the-fact finding of a learning disability did not fit neatly into  
Public Service Commission policies and procedures which had been created to  
administer the Treasury Board policy. No one in the … Commission appeared to  
know how to step outside the rigidity of the practices and procedures established  
in order to deal with this unusual situation.82  
[88] In Radek,83 the Tribunal concluded that reasonable accommodation of  
handicapped people and people of Aboriginal origin implied that the shopping mall  
adopt a policy explicitly recognizing human rights standards and that it accordingly train  
employees responsible for its application.  
[89] Having given an overview of the different rules related to the nature, foundations,  
evidence and grounds of defence in systemic discrimination matters, I will now, without  
further ado, broach the analysis of the evidence as submitted by the parties at the  
hearing.  
SECTION 3. ANALYSIS OF THE EVIDENCE  
[90] In light of the prescriptions applicable to the evidence and defence in matters of  
systemic discrimination, I now undertake an examination of the evidence adduced at the  
81 Central Alberta Dairy Pool v. Alberta Human Rights Commission, [1990] 2 S.C.R. 489 at 520-521.  
82 Green v. Public Service Commission of Canada, supra note 49.  
83 Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) and Securiguard Services (No. 3), supra note 59.  
 
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hearing bearing on the entire hiring process at Gaz Métro from 1995 to 1997.84 To that  
end, I will successively examine the presence of women in blue-collar jobs in the  
company (3.1), the description and prerequisites of the position of network operator  
(3.2); the external recruitment process (3.3) and Gaz Métro’s institutional culture (3.4).  
3.1 Presence of women in blue-collar jobs at Gaz Métro  
[91] After a brief description of the circumstances that led to the special recruitment  
competition, I will present the essential aspects of the evidence related to the question  
of the under-representation of women in the position of network operator.  
3.1.1 Circumstances of the special recruitment competition  
[92] From 1974 to 1976, Gaz Métro had an average of roughly 200 blue-collar  
workers, all male. Most of them worked in a plant in gas liquefaction. Carole Magnan,  
manager of the employment office from 1992 to 1997 and director of human resources  
for Gaz Métro at the time of her testimony, described them as having little schooling and  
no technical training. Jean-Pierre Raymond, technical development advisor and the  
person in charge of network trainees during the period in dispute, confirmed the lack of  
schooling of those employees when they began network operation jobs. They had to be  
organized into teams of threeone who knew how to read, one who knew how to weld  
and a third who knew how to drive. Many adjustments had to be made so that the men  
could do their work.  
[93] Between 1987 and 1995, Gaz Métro took various steps related to employment  
equity. As a supplier under federal contracts, Gaz Métro legally had to adhere, in 1990,  
to the Federal Contractors Program, created in 1986, in the wake of the Abella  
Commission’s Report on Equality in Employment (1984).85 The program is aimed at  
businesses that employ at least 100 people and have contracts with the federal  
government for amounts of $200 000 or more. Its objective is to impose on the  
employers employment equity measures for various target groups, namely, women,  
Aboriginal peoples, people with disabilities and members of visible minorities.  
[94] Simultaneously, in 1993, in the framework of a succession plan, the position of  
network operator took form at Gaz Métro, replacing several positions that had been  
eliminated or merged with others.86 Only employees already employed by Gaz Métro  
84 At the Commission’s request, the Tribunal agreed that data covering the period until 1998 be filed. In  
addition, should the Tribunal be asked to rule on the feasibility of imposing an affirmative action program,  
a few statistics from after that period would also be submitted.  
85 R.S. Abella, supra note 36.  
86 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 183.  
   
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were “recruited”.87 The Syndicat took part in that approach88 and the position was  
governed by the collective agreement.89  
[95] Candidates for network operator positions were trained internally at Gaz Métro,  
particularly by Robert Bédard and Serge Charbonneau. At first, in 1992, when training  
for network operators was developed by Mr. Bédard and Jean-Pierre Raymond, among  
others, it was designed to last three years. As of 1994, the training was condensed into  
two years. Three months of probation applied to employees recruited outside Gaz  
Métro.90  
[96] An employee was a network trainee for the first six months of training.91 Paired  
with an experienced network operator, the employee went through four different  
programs, each including theoretical training and practical training in maintenance and  
repair, connections, supervision and pressurization control.92 In the following six  
months, the trainee became a network apprentice. Then, the last year, the trainee was a  
junior network operator and gained greater knowledge in the four training modules  
studied in the first six months. Only when the two years were over and after passing  
each training module did a trainee obtain the title of network operator. If trainees failed  
one of the stages, they were dismissed.93  
[97] Gaz Métro did not require candidates for the position of network operator to have  
any previous experience in the field. On the contrary, the company believed that the  
training given internally enabled employees to develop the skills required to safely and  
efficiently perform their duties.94  
[98] From 1992 until 1995, only one woman held the position of network operator,  
while the number of men declined from 143 to 132 during the same period. In an  
information session for female candidates during the special recruitment competition.  
Jean-Pierre Raymond mentioned the difficulties experienced by the woman in an  
exclusively male environment. As for Carole Magnan, she said that the small proportion  
of women was a concern for the company executives, who wanted to recruit more  
women. [TRANSLATION] “In 1995, the number of candidates was deemed insufficient”.  
[99] On June 2, 1995, Gaz Métro and the Syndicat signed a letter of understanding95  
aimed at allowing women and members of visible minorities to be given priority for  
positions as network operators, in the network operation division, provided they had the  
87 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 57.  
88 D-42: description of apprentice duties, for the Syndicat.  
89 D-2, supra note 5.  
90 P-5, document entitled “Modalité d’application du programme de formation continue” dated January  
11, 1996 at 2.  
91 P-5, supra note 89.  
92 P-4: complete table of the technical network training program.  
93 P-4, supra note 91; P-5, supra note 89 at 3.  
94 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 84.  
95 P-2: agreement dated June 2, 1995.  
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skills required. The agreement stipulated that 10 of the next 14 positions as network  
trainees (that is, 71% of new positions) were to be set aside for people from either of the  
two target groups. Recruitment would be carried out by consulting organizations that  
worked with women looking for employment. The parties indicated in the agreement that  
[TRANSLATION] “this remedial hiring measure in no way questions the qualification  
criterion, which is paramount, and will not reduce requirements for anyone”.  
[100] It was in that context that, in 1995, Gaz Métro initiated its operations to hire, on a  
priority basis, women and members of visible minorities for trainee jobs. External  
recruitment aimed at those two target groups was dubbed [TRANSLATION] “special  
recruitment”. Through it, the seven complainants represented by the Commission  
alleged that they suffered systemic discrimination based on sex.  
3.1.2 Issue of under-representation  
[101] As explained in the report96 prepared by Denise Perron, Gaz Métro’s expert  
witness concerning employment equity, both the federal government and the Québec  
government laid down regulations aimed at combating systemic discrimination in  
employment. Thus, regardless of the specific regime to which an employer could be  
subject in that regard, the employment equity or affirmative action programs generally  
included various stages, particularly, an evaluation of personnel for the purpose of  
determining whether or not certain groups of employees were under-represented, an  
examination of the employment systems (policies and practices), the setting of  
objectives along with positive measures or reasonable accommodation measures, and  
the adoption of monitoring procedures. The businesses in which such programs were  
set up also had to adopt an approach that promoted acceptance by the staff and the  
success of the measures undertaken. Let me mention, to that end, the information given  
to employees about employment equity, the designation of a senior executive to be in  
charge of the program and the creation of a climate favourable to the integration of  
employees from the target groups. In this section, I will restrict the discussion, however,  
to an analysis of the evidence that will make it possible to determine whether women  
were under-represented or not in the position of network operator at Gaz Métro at the  
time of the facts relevant to the present dispute.  
[102] According to the experts who testified on the subject, the under-representation of  
people belonging to a target group is assessed by comparing the proportion of people  
from the group in a company with the proportion of people qualified for the same  
position outside the company. To that end, the percentage of women holding the  
position of network operator at Gaz Métro must be established compared with the total  
number of employees holding that position. That result is then compared to the  
percentage of women qualified for the position on the regional employment market,  
known as the [TRANSLATION] “availability rate” for qualified women for the position in  
the labour market outside the company. That rate is a useful guide for the employer in  
96 D-80: expert opinion of Denise Perron.  
 
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setting quantitative objectives (hiring quotas) for the representation of workers from the  
target groups.97  
[103] Érika Boukamp Bosch was the expert witness for the Commission for the  
analysis and evaluation of staff and employment systems for employment equity  
purposes according to federal legislation. She has worked in that field for a number of  
years and, in particular, ensured the transition between different job categorization  
systems in the Canadian provinces.  
[104] At the hearing, Gaz Métro’s attorney raised an objection, which the Tribunal took  
under advisement, regarding the admissibility of the evidence provided by Ms. Boukamp  
Bosch concerning the federal employment equity system under federal legislation. Like  
Denise Perron,98 the Tribunal believes that the nuances encountered in the employment  
equity or affirmative action approaches proposed by one level of government or another  
do not compromise their common objective. The Tribunal therefore overruled the  
objection.  
[105] According to Ms. Boukamp Bosch, the description of the position of network  
operator99 and, particularly, the requirement that the candidate have only a Secondary V  
education and experience make the position of network operator more of a semi-skilled  
job than a skilled job requiring, upon hiring, credentials like those required in the various  
construction trades. Furthermore, the fact that the position involved two years of on-the-  
job training helped to broaden the pool of manual workers likely to be qualified, which is  
not the case when specialization is required before hiring. In her opinion, the training  
dispensed by the employer was a type of action that promoted employment equity.  
[106] To strengthen her assessment, Ms. Boukamp Bosch analysed the situation at  
Gaz Métro on the basis of data drawn from the 1991, 1996 and 2001 censuses, and  
examined in particular two occupational groups in the National Occupational  
Classification, applicable to suppliers contemplated by the Federal Contractors  
Program. The first group (EEOG 12) concerned semi-skilled manual workers, while the  
second (EEOG 14) encompassed other manual workers.100  
[107] For each of the periods between those years, the table of official data on the  
representation of women on the labour market indicates, for those two groups of  
workers, availability rates of 21% to 27%. When Ms. Bosch limited her analysis to the  
97 D-80, supra note 96 at 7; P-57, supra note 11 at 4.  
98 D-80, supra note 96 at 6.  
99 P-3C: document entitled “Profil d’emploi-poste de stagiaire réseau” (network trainee job profile),  
transmitted to ATF on May 30, 1995.  
100 The National Occupational Classification consists of a total of 14 groups containing some 500 unit  
groups or generic occupations. It was established by Human Resources Development Canada and  
Statistics Canada in order to provide a detailed inventory of all jobs in the country.  
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representation of women in the jobs of semi-skilled manual workers from 1991 to 1999,  
their availability rate was 23.5%. After 1999, that rate dropped to 21.5%.101  
[108] On the basis of the data in the annual reports published by Gaz Métro regarding  
the employment equity program,102 Ms. Bosch noted that, in 1995, there were 9 women  
out of a total of 378 semi-skilled manual workers. That rate of representation (2.4%)  
was well below the availability rate (23.5%) for women in that occupational group in  
Québec during the same period; 89 of the 378 workers should have been female in  
order to reflect the availability rate for women. Applying that reasoning, the 80-woman  
disparity dropped to a 76-woman disparity in 1996 and to a 71-woman disparity in  
1997.103  
[109] The following table104 illustrates more particularly the representation of women  
over the years in the position of network operator at Gaz Métro:  
Table 1  
Representation of women in the position of network operator  
1976 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003  
Women  
Men  
Women/  
total  
0
200  
0%  
1
132  
5
110  
7
110  
6
96  
5
99  
4
92  
4
119  
7
127  
7
129  
<1% 4.3% 6.0% 5.9% 4.8% 4.2% 3.2% 5.2% 5.1%  
1%: below 1%.  
101 P-57, supra note 11 at 6.  
102 In the framework of the Federal Contractors Program, Gaz Métro had to publish an annual report  
containing statistics on the representation of the target groups on its staff. To that end, the employer used  
software provided by the federal government. The Tribunal accepts those data, which were regularly  
monitored for five consecutive years, from 1998 to 2003 (P-52 to P-56), as well as those of the previous  
years (D-68).  
103 P-57, supra note 11 at 7.  
104 As regards 1976, the estimate of 200 was provided by Gaz Métro. The data for 1995 to 2000  
inclusively are from Ms. Boukamp Bosch’s report, at 8. The data for subsequent years are from the Gaz  
Métro annual reports (P-54, P-55 and P-56).  
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[110] Ms. Boukamp Bosch noted that the presence of one woman out of a total of 133  
employees holding the position in 1995 at Gaz Métro corresponded to a representation  
rate of less than 1% (0.8%). To reflect the availability rate (23.5%) for semi-skilled  
manual workers on the labour market at the time, Gaz Métro should have had 31  
women in the position. She concluded that the degree of under-representation was such  
that, to remedy it, Gaz Métro would have had to hire roughly 30 women in 1995, 22 in  
1996, 20 in 1997 and 18 in 1998.105 For each of the years 1999 and 2000, the gap to be  
filled in terms of the availability rate (21.5%) was 17 women.106 In any case, as we will  
soon see, those numbers largely exceed the results obtained under the special  
recruitment program.  
Total number  
of  
employees  
Representation  
of women  
Availability of  
women  
Source  
(Availability)  
Year  
Difference  
#
%
#
%
1995  
133  
1
0.8  
31  
23.5  
-30  
1991 census  
1996  
1997  
1998  
1999  
2000  
115  
117  
102  
104  
96  
5
7
6
5
4
4.3  
6.0  
5.9  
4.8  
4.2  
27  
27  
24  
22  
21  
23.5  
23.5  
23.5  
21.5  
21.5  
-22  
-20  
-18  
-17  
-17  
1991 census  
1991 census  
1991 census  
1996 census  
1996 census  
Table 2  
Representation and availability of women in the position of network operator  
(1995-2000)  
[111] The following table, taken from Ms. Boukamp Bosch’s report,107 presents all the  
data collected by her on the subject:  
[112] Denise Perron, expert witness for Gaz Métro, used a different method to  
determine the availability rate for women on the labour market in a group of positions  
comparable to that of network operator. Like Gaz Métro, she used for her analysis one  
of the generic occupations included in the group of semi-skilled manual workers (EEOG  
105 P-57, supra note 11 at 9.  
106 According to Ms. Bosch, the reduction in the gap to be filled over the years is not explained by the  
increased hiring of women, but by the decrease in the number of semi-skilled workers at Gaz Métro, from  
133 in 1995 to 96 in 2000.  
107 P-57, supra note 11 at 9.  
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12). The generic occupation she used is designated as code 7442. It includes more  
specifically waterworks maintenance workers (subgroup 7442.1) and gas pipe  
maintenance workers (subgroup 7442.2), to which the position of network operator  
corresponds.  
[113] According to Statistics Canada data, the availability rate for women in that  
occupation included in the group of semi-skilled manual workers is 5.2%; that rate could  
even be reduced, according to Ms. Perron, to take into consideration the fact that it  
includes an irrelevant proportion of women assigned to waterworks maintenance. She  
noted that 5 women, compared with 110 men, occupied the position of network operator  
in 1996 (4.3% of staff) and that there were 7 women, compared with 110 men, in 1997  
(5.9% of staff). She concluded their very small under-representation at Gaz Métro in  
1996 (compared with an availability rate of 5.2% on the labour market) was completely  
eliminated in 1997. In her opinion, there was therefore no generalized under-  
representation of women in the position of network operator at Gaz Métro. Hence, Ms.  
Perron did not feel it was essential to conduct a systematic examination of the effects of  
the selection process on the hiring of female network trainees.108  
[114] Faced with two significantly divergent expert opinions, the Tribunal first wishes to  
point out the following principle laid down by the Court of Appeal:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[T]he judge has the duty to examine all the evidence in order to form his or her  
opinion and …, in the framework of his or her analysis, can accept or reject any  
testimony, whether scientific or lay, and must determine the relative importance  
of the evidence accepted in order to draw his or her conclusion. There is  
therefore no evidence that, by definition, is a priority or must be favoured.109  
[115] Thus, in evaluating the probative value of the report and testimony of an expert,  
the Tribunal must consider the reliability of the steps taken by the expert at the data  
collection stage, the connection between his or her opinion and the factual evidence  
gathered at the hearing, as well as his or her qualifications and impartiality. As Jean-  
Claude Royer wrote:  
[TRANSLATION]  
The tribunal must assess the credibility of the expert witnesses, as well as the  
scientific or technical value of the facts they relate or the opinions they express.  
The general criteria for evaluating lay evidence applies to expert evidence. The  
judge also takes into consideration the nature and purpose of the expert  
evidence, the qualifications and impartiality of the expert, the scope and reliability  
of the expert’s research, as well as the connection between the opinions  
proposed and the evidence.110  
108 D-80, supra note 97 at 23.  
109 Charpentier v. Compagnie d’assurances Standard Life, 2001 1478 (Gendreau J.).  
110 Jean-Claude Royer, La preuve civile, 3rd ed. (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2003) at 313.  
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[116] As regards the methods of analysis adopted by Ms. Boukamp Bosch and by Ms.  
Perron in relation to the issue of under-representation, the Tribunal accepts more  
readily the documented, rigorous and essentially objective explanations of Ms.  
Boukamp Bosch.  
[117] For example, in her report, Ms. Boukamp Bosch explained that the availability  
rate according to which female representation at Gaz Métro must be measured can  
sometimes be established more broadly, i.e. according to an occupational group (such  
as EEOG 12), and sometimes more restrictively, i.e. in terms of a particular generic  
occupation (such as that designated as code 7442). According to the instruction  
manuals prepared in order to provide standard, adequate information for employers that  
adopt employment equity measures, the availability rate established according to an  
occupational group must be used particularly for clerical personnel (EEOG 10), semi-  
skilled manual workers (EEOG 12) and other manual workers (EEOG 14). That is true  
because those groups cover jobs that, first, have more “broad occupational  
requirements”, indeed, skills that can be transposed from one job to another in the same  
group and, second, sometimes include on-the-job training.111  
[118] In contrast, the specific availability rates for certain generic occupations are used  
adequately for the occupational groups containing professionals (EEOG 3),112 semi-  
professionals and technicians (EEOG 4),113 and skilled crafts and trades workers  
(EEOG 9),114 provided these workers are required to have specific qualifications, and  
even belong to a professional order so that they can practice their trade or  
occupation.115 That approach is the one used by Ms. Perron, according to whom  
[TRANSLATION] “the availability of women for the job of network operator is therefore  
more significant than if it were analysed on the basis of a large pool of jobs”, such as  
those in group EEOG 12 or EEOG-14.116  
[119] The Tribunal must therefore observe that the analysis method used by Ms.  
Boukamp Bosch in this complex field is more consistent with the prescriptions and  
standards imposed on employers for the adequate establishment of the actual rate of  
representation of various target groups among their personnel.  
[120] In support of her approach, Ms. Perron also considered that the position of  
operator did not constitute an entry-level job in the company. Having played a major role  
in the special recruitment program, Sylvie Richard, staffing advisor at Gaz Métro,  
111 P-57, supra note 11 at 7.  
112 Advocates and notaries in Québec, mining engineers and psychologists are in that group.  
113 That group includes industrial designers, air pilots and opticians.  
114 Plumbers and sheet metal workers are part of that group.  
115 P-57, supra note 11 at 5.  
116 D-80, supra note 96 at 19.  
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contradicted that, however.117 Cross-examined by the Commission’s attorney, Ms.  
Perron actually acknowledged that she did not examine the position of operator when  
preparing her report. Furthermore, in 1996, she wrote the opposite in a document in  
which she analysed in particular Gaz Métro’s experience as regards non-traditional  
jobs:  
[TRANSLATION]  
The position of network operator is an entry-level function for manual and  
technical jobs. For a few years, operator positions were filled by blue-collar or  
white-collar personnel in the company.118  
[121] Therefore, the Tribunal subscribes more to the conclusions of Ms. Boukamp  
Bosch regarding a major under-representation of women in the position of network  
operator at Gaz Métro, particularly since her opinion is supported by the testimony of  
other experts.  
[122] Claude Yelle, consulting analyst for the federal government recognized by the  
Tribunal as an expert witness for the Commission, provided a complementary viewpoint  
on the question of under-representation. Explaining the use of the tables shown on the  
Statistics Canada Website, he used the requirement of a Secondary V diploma or the  
equivalent in order to establish the availability rate for women on the labour market. For  
the Montréal area, the pool of people meeting the basic criterion of the job at issue  
totaled 999 200, 55% of whom were women, not considering those with an education  
above the Secondary V level. Mr. Yelle’s evaluation supported the observation of under-  
representation among women in the employment of network operator at Gaz Métro.  
[123] Louis Laurencelle, expert witness for Gaz Métro as a methodologist and  
statistician, was questioned about Ms. Boukamp Bosch’s conclusions on the basis of  
the stenographic notes of February 18, 2006. Although he said availability rates  
established for the labour market were not his field of expertise, he noted inaccuracies  
in certain uses made of them. He explained that the employer’s subjective judgment  
could play a role and the employer could manipulate the data in order to reduce the  
number of positions to be filled by women. He confirmed expert Yelle’s opinion that  
about 50% of the population, including a majority of women, had at least a Secondary V  
diploma. Hence, according to him, there were more women than men who could meet  
that employment criterion for the position of network trainee.119  
[124] As the following table shows, the special recruitment process undertaken  
between June 1995 and October 1997 did not make it possible to achieve the hiring  
objectives of increasing the number of female network operators.  
117 When cross-examined by the ATF attorney, Ms. Richard mentioned that [TRANSLATION] “the desire  
to excel” is important because the position of network operator is an entry-level position that includes 24-  
months of training and it can lead to a technician position.  
118 P-81: survey on organizational practices in equity matters, at 27.  
119 See also D-93: report prepared by the expert witness, dated August 17 and 22, 2006.  
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[125] Let me first point out that the June 1995 competition, in which two (2) female  
candidates successively completed the entire selection process, was cancelled by the  
Gaz Métro administration, without written notification or any other formality. In fact, from  
June 1995 to October 1997, six (6) women out of total of twenty-eight (28) new network  
operators were hired (21% of new staff). Nine (9) of the 28 employees, including one  
woman, were recruited through the CSN’s bargaining unit, while 19 other candidates  
were from other Gaz Métro units (internal hiring) or from outside the company.120 When  
the year 1998 is also considered, 11 new male network operators were hired, so that  
the female hiring rate then dropped to 15%, i.e. six (6) women out of a total of 39 new  
network operators, from all sources.  
Table 3  
Source of candidates hired for the position of network operator  
1995 1996 1997 1998  
Total  
Women from  
inside the  
company  
Men from  
inside the  
company  
Women from  
outside the  
company  
Men from  
outside the  
company  
Total  
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
0
2
16  
4
9
1
6
3
1
0
2
10  
W 2  
5
17  
W 6  
W 4  
W 0  
according to  
sex  
M 11 M 11 M 11 M 33  
[126] Hence, despite the letter of understanding of June 2, 1995, under which women  
and visible minorities were to be given priority for positions as network operators, the  
evidence shows that the employer did not fill the 10 positions out of 14 set aside for  
those groups with the agreement of the Syndicat.  
[127] However, the Tribunal has some reservations about the actual utility of that  
statistical evidence in this case because of the small number of candidates recruited  
during the exercise and the difficultyin fact, the impossibility in certain respectsof  
obtaining accurate data on the exact number and the sex of the people who applied for  
the job. In cross-examination, Sylvie Richard affirmed that, although the data are  
120 The question of the hiring of network operators from [TRANSLATION] “the CSN bargaining unit” will  
be discussed in section 3.4 of the decision.  
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reliable in that regard, [TRANSLATION] “I cannot guarantee that no data are missing. I  
would not be honest with you if I said that was absolutely impossible”.121  
[128] So in that regard, the Tribunal accepts the observations of expert Louis  
Laurencelle concerning the relative utility of statistical evidence in matters that do not  
lend themselves to such utility. As I wrote earlier:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Evidence of systemic discrimination thus rests essentially on a set of facts,  
such as institutional policies, decision-making procedures, behaviours and  
attitudes that, in an often apparently unconscious and innocuous way, have and  
maintain, when combined, disproportionately exclusionary effects on members of  
groups contemplated by the prohibition of discrimination. As useful as it is when  
available and relevant, statistical evidence is not, in fact, indispensable in  
demonstrating discrimination.122  
[129] Therefore, in order to determine whether the under-representation of women in  
the employment of network operator is attributable to the phenomenon of systemic  
discrimination, the Tribunal will now examine the whole of the selection process,  
focusing on the experience of each complainant in that process.  
3.2  
Description of the position of network operator and its prerequisites  
[130] This section consists in an examination of the documents issued prior to the  
special recruitment at Gaz Métro and the prerequisites for the employment of network  
operator. I will discuss successively the duties of network operators (3.2.1) and the  
prerequisites according to the job profile (3.2.2), specifically the class 3 driver’s licence  
(3.2.2.1), the secondary school diploma (3.2.2.2) and non-traditional experience  
(3.2.2.3).  
3.2.1 Description of the duties  
[131] For reasons explained earlier,123 the position of network operator is an entry-level  
manual job. Even before examining the prerequisites for the job and other prerequisites,  
it is important to ascertain whether the description of the duties of network operators is  
consistent with the job profile used for recruitment purposes.  
[132] Normand Pettersen, Gaz Métro’s expert witness concerning selection, explained  
in that regard that the list of duties essential to a job must first have a [TRANSLATION]  
“critical” connection with the job itself.124 It is only then that the employee profile sought  
can be established and that the requirements for the position can be determined. Then,  
121 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 205.  
122 See section 2.2.2 of this decision.  
123 See section 3.1 on that subject.  
124 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 253.  
   
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on the basis of those requirements, appropriate selection instruments can be  
developed.  
[133] Chantale Jeanrie, expert in psychometrics and industrial psychology, explained  
substantially the same thing, i.e. that generally the description of the position must  
constantly be referred in order to evaluate the selection process. She continued by  
saying that each duty in the description of the position must be analysed in terms of the  
relevant KSAO (“knowledge, skills, ability, others”).125 If a correlation is lacking between  
the various elements, i.e. the description of duties, the job profile and the selection  
instruments, the entire recruitment process may be ineffective at best.  
[134] According to Jean-Pierre Raymond and Robert Bédard, respectively Gaz Métro  
technical development advisornetwork maintenance and training development advisor,  
the description of job-related duties used for recruitment in the relevant years is given in  
Exhibit D-11, which lists various duties that network operators must perform.126 Each  
duty is described in detail and associated with one of the main functions of the position  
of network operator: emergency intervention, improvement and connection,  
pressurization control and network monitoring.  
[135] However, Exhibit D-11 is dated June 1998. So it appears to have been prepared  
after the 1995 to 1997 recruitments and it is unlikely that Gaz Métro used it during that  
period. As for Exhibit D-11A, which is identical to D-11 except that it includes  
photographs illustrating the duties, Jean-Pierre Raymond prepared it in 2005 for the  
purpose of this case.127  
[136] Lucien Aubé, a witness for Gaz Métro, was approached by the company in 1997  
to overhaul its hiring process as regards the positions of network operator and service  
employee. In his offer of services (P-74), he mentioned that no qualification profile  
seemed to have been clearly established for those positions.  
[137] Furthermore, Sylvie Richard, Gaz Métro staffing advisor, confirmed that no  
formal job description existed at the time of the special competitions.128 As for Robert  
Bédard and Jean-Pierre Raymond, they said that document D-11 had been in  
preparation since 1992, that it was evolving and that it existed prior to 1998 in one form  
or another.129  
[138] Expert Pettersen explained that no one at Gaz Métro showed him that Exhibit D-  
11 was really used as a job description during the period at issue. He pointed out,  
125 P-43, supra note 10 at 8; Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 40 et seq.  
126 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 140; Robert Bédard, stenographic  
notes, January 16, 2006 at 231-236.  
127 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 126.  
128 A-23 in a bundle: lists of required information. See also Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes,  
September 13, 2006 at 111.  
129 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 234; Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic  
notes, January 26, 2006 at 140-142.  
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however, that if D-11 actually reflected the duties of network operators and if the  
document was systematically used during the facts at issue, then it is crucialthe  
[TRANSLATION] “cornerstone of the case”—because it is extremely detailed.130 He  
later said, however, that he could not affirm that the duties listed in Exhibit D-11  
constituted the important or critical duties of the position of network operator.131  
[139] Moreover, document D-11 lists the manual duties of a number of jobs combined,  
without containing all the duties proper to the position of network operator. For example,  
the calculations and cartography that have to be done on site prior to installing a section  
of pipe are not indicated, even though Gaz Métro mentioned the importance of the  
application of calculations on site for network operators. Jean-Pierre Raymond felt that  
D-11 showed more what a multidisciplinary network operator did after being trained, not  
what was expected of a network trainee when appointed to the position.132 That was  
confirmed by expert Pettersen.  
[140] But even assuming that Gaz Métro’s managers and trainers were very familiar, in  
1995 and subsequently, with the description of duties of the position of network operator  
despite the non-existence of D-11, no witness was able to identify clearly the  
qualifications essential to the position of network operator. Gaz Métro’s witnesses,  
particularly Jean-Pierre Raymond, Sylvie Richard, Robert Bédard and Lucien Aubé,  
themselves seemed confused about the qualifications essential to the position at issue  
and about the time that Exhibit D-11 was prepared.  
[141] Incidentally, bear in mind in that regard that Ms. Richard and Mr. Aubé confirmed  
the absence of a real job description from 1995 to 1997. Besides, Mr. Bédard testified  
that document D-11 was prepared from the perspective of occupational health and  
safety, rather than recruitment.133 The Tribunal also recalls the explanations of experts  
Chantale Jeanrie and Normand Pettersen that the description of duties essential to the  
job must first be closely linked to the job before a job profile and a selection process can  
be adequately developed. In that regard, Ms. Jeanrie explained that an analysis of the  
position developed for selection purposes is used [TRANSLATION] “more to determine  
what tasks are performed, … the distinctive tasks of the job, that is, those that make it  
possible to determine who is a good employeehence, who does the job adequately  
and who does not”.134 Exhibit D-11 therefore could not serve as a basis for recruitment  
for the position of network operator.  
[142] So in this case, it has been established that no description of duties existed at  
the time of the facts at issue and that, in any case, document D-11 has shortcomings  
that prevent it from being considered an appropriate description of the duties. Since,  
130 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 133-134 and 143.  
131 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 251.  
132 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 128.  
133 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 232-237; stenographic notes, January 25,  
2006 at 144; Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 44.  
134 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 45.  
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according to the experts, all the rest of the selection process must logically stem from  
such a document and it did not exist at Gaz Métro from 1995 to 1997, that already  
raises certain doubts about the following stages in the selection process, beginning with  
the job profile.  
3.2.2 Prerequisites according to the job profile  
[143] What is called the job profile corresponds in fact to the qualifications required, i.e.  
the requirements of the position of network operator as indicated on the recruitment  
posters (P-3). Here are the requirements:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Class 3 driver’s licence  
Mechanical, electrical, pneumatic and hydraulic qualifications  
Ability to do work requiring a degree of physical strength  
Secondary V schooling  
Expertise in related fields (civil engineering, building services), acquired in  
vocational training or through experience, is relevant to this type of job.135  
[144] The recruitment posters for the competitions in July 1995 (P-3A), November  
1996 (P-3B) and April 1997 (P-3D) are almost identical. As for poster P-3C, which also  
concerns the 1995 competition, it is the job profile that Gaz Métro sent to ATF at its  
request, and to other specialized organizations that were to promote the candidacies of  
women. I note that on that poster the last of the above five requirements, relating to  
expertise in related fields, was replaced with the following requirement:  
[TRANSLATION] “Manual skills in working with mechanical parts of all size(s)”.  
However, the main difference between P-3C and the other posters lies in the list of  
experiences relevant to the job:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Experience on construction sites, in horticulture, on a farm, on an  
assembly line, or in waterworks, a refinery or an underground system;  
Handling of a variety of equipment: shovels, blowers, sprinkler systems,  
air guns, mechanical parts;  
Lifestyle including repair and maintenance of a vehicle (changing tires, oil,  
brakes, etc.).  
[145] According to Gaz Métro’s witnesses, particularly Jean-Pierre Raymond and  
Sylvie Richard, the purpose of that addition was to increase the possibility that women  
would recognize themselves in the description of requirements and correspond more  
readily with the profile sought.136 But, as Robert Bédard acknowledged in his testimony,  
135 P-3A: job offer published in the Journal de Montréal on August 12, 1995; P-3B: job offer published in  
La Presse on October 5, 1996; P-3C, supra note 100; P-3D: job offer published in the Journal de Montréal  
on June 14, 1997.  
136 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 174-175, stenographic notes, February 17,  
2006 at 53; Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 149.  
 
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men usually have those experiences.137 Besides, the list of relevant experiences was  
not included in the notices of vacant positions posted internally by Gaz Métro.138  
[146] Furthermore, poster P-3C is the only one containing a list of the personal  
qualities sought:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Attentive, open;  
Flexible, but assured;  
Team spirit, likes to work with others: shows empathy;  
Concern for the clientele;  
A marked interest (because of occupational and para-occupational  
experience) in non-traditional workplaces, manual work, work in difficult or  
different climatic and physical conditions (becoming soiled with dirt);  
Wants to excel;  
Proactive, seeks solutions;  
Can influence others positively.  
[147] These [TRANSLATION] “personal qualities” are not found in the other P-3 job  
profiles or in the posters displayed internally, i.e. in the CSN-certified unit and  
throughout the company. According to expert Chantale Jeanrie, it is difficult to link the  
qualities mentioned as requirements to the duties of the position of network operator.139  
For example, she questioned the [TRANSLATION] “empathy” requirement, which,  
according to her, is relevant to the positions of psychologist, guidance counselor, social  
worker and other professional positions, but not to blue-collar positions.140 She  
expressed the opinion that the number of desired qualities mentioned on poster P-3C  
was altogether excessive.141  
[148] According to Ms. Jeanrie, three types of requirements can be demanded by a  
company in a recruitment: a job-entry requirement, a requirement absolutely essential to  
the job and not a preference, and a requirement related to a characteristic found among  
the pool of natural candidates for the position.142  
[149] Expert Normand Pettersen commented that the employer had no definition of  
those [TRANSLATION] “personal qualities” and he considered that contrary to proper  
practice.143 The only document that could be considered a glossary of the terms used in  
the [TRANSLATION] “personal qualities” group was Exhibit D-57, which probably  
belonged to François Messier, a colleague of Sylvie Richard at Gaz Métro. However,  
137 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 57-58.  
138 D-51: request for personnel, November 11, 1996; D-56: notice of job vacancy.  
139 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 61.  
140 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 16, 2005 at 204-205.  
141 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 59.  
142 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 47.  
143 D-84A, supra note 18 at 21-22.  
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Mr. Messier never conducted interviews for the position of network operator and Sylvie  
Richard, who was responsible for conducting them, never used glossary D-57.144  
[150] The Tribunal wonders about the relevance, at the time that the position was  
posted in the special 1995 competition, of adding the requirement of non-traditional  
experience and listing the [TRANSLATION] “personal qualities” sought. How can it be  
explained that Gaz Métro, noting the under-representation of women in the position of  
network operator in its company and wanting to correct it, decided to make a list of  
required qualities irrelevant to the position and to add a requirement mainly met by  
men?  
[151] Lastly, the job vacancy notices were posted for widely varying periods of time  
according to whether they were internal or external. For example, as regard the 1995  
recruitment, the internal posting lasted longer than the external posting so as to allow as  
many people as possible to know about the vacancy despite summer vacations. The  
deadline posted for external candidacies was June 12, 1995 (D-36), while the deadline  
posted for internal candidacies was August 30, 1995 (D-56). Since women could  
essentially be recruited externally and since the company said it wanted to encourage  
candidacies by women, the deadlines are surprising.  
3.2.2.1 Class 3 driver’s licence  
[152] A class 3 driver’s licence allows its holder to drive a straight truck, i.e. a truck with  
three axles or more or a truck with two axles and a net weight of over 4500 kg.145 That  
is one of the types of trucks used by Gaz Métro that its employees had to drive.  
Furthermore a class 1 licence, which allows its holder to drive large trucks pulling semi-  
trailers, and a class 2 licence, which allows its holder to drive buses with a seating  
capacity of more than 24 passengers, “encompasses” in a way class 3, in that class 1  
and class 2 driver’s licences allow their holders to drive the vehicles contemplated by  
class 3.146 In that regard, Gaz Métro seemed to suggest that Joan Dupont wrongly  
decided to take steps to obtain a class 1 licence;147 the same criticism was leveled at  
Tania Plourde, who chose class 2.148 But those choices of licence class simply enabled  
the women to do more than what was asked.  
[153] To obtain a class 3 driver’s licence, one must first hold a class 5 licence (for  
passenger vehicles) for at least two years. Once the medical file is accepted and the  
knowledge test is passed, the person is issued a class 3 learner’s licence for a minimum  
of three months, after which the person must pass the road test.149  
144 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 103-104.  
145 P-37: information pamphlet explaining the steps in obtaining a Class 3 driver’s licence.  
146 P-37, supra note 145.  
147 Arguments of Gaz Métro, June 4, 2007 at para. 609.  
148 Arguments of Gaz Métro, June 4, 2007 at para. 630.  
149 P-37, supra note 145.  
 
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[154] In the information session on the network operator position to which interested  
women were invited in 1995, Jean-Pierre Raymond, Sylvie Richard and Carole Magnan  
gave each woman a document150 describing the steps to follow to obtain a class 3  
licence and the costs involved in each step. Excluding the practical training required to  
obtain the licence, the costs were $111. The collective agreement negotiated between  
Gaz Métro and the Syndicat in 1998 provided for the refund of that amount,151 which  
was not the case with the collective agreement of 1994,152 which was in force during the  
special recruitment competitions. The costs of the driving courses required to obtain a  
class 3 licence were added to the cost of the licence itself. In the 1995 information  
session, the women present learned that the cost of the courses was approximately  
$600.153 But Serge Fortin, chief of staffing at the Société de transport de Montréal,  
stated in his testimony that the courses cost between $800 and $2500.154 André Gagné,  
licence and registration clerk at the Société de l’assurance automobile du Québec,  
estimated that the courses cost between $800 and $1500.155  
[155] It was adduced in evidence that, in 1995, women accounted for 3% of holders of  
class 1, 2 or 3 licences in Québec;156 the same observation applies for the years  
1996157 and 1997.158 Of the seven victims in this case, only Marie-Claude Côté and  
Nicole Trudel had such a driver’s licence (class 1) in 1995;159 the other candidates held  
a class 5 licence.  
[156] Ordinarily, Gaz Métro required that candidates already have their class 3 licence  
when applying for the position of network operator.160 That prerequisite was listed on  
poster P-3 and others.161 But in the framework of the special 1995 competition, Gaz  
Métro set up a special measure whereby the candidates could begin the selection  
process without having a class 3 licence, provided they had the licence when they were  
hired.  
150 D-47: steps in obtaining a class 3 licence.  
151 D-2, supra note 5 at section 26.02.  
152 D-1, supra note 5 at section 26.02.  
153 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 198-199.  
154 Serge Fortin, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 78.  
155 André Gagné, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 62.  
156 P-7A: Service des études et des stratégies en sécurité routière of the SAAQ, statistics on licence  
holders as at 1995/06/01, dated April 17, 2002.  
157 P-7B: Service des études et des stratégies en sécurité routière of the SAAQ, statistics on licence  
holders as at 1996/06/01, dated April 16, 2002.  
158 P-7C: Service des études et des stratégies en sécurité routière of the SAAQ, statistics on licence  
holders as at 1997/06/01, dated April 17, 2002.  
159 See Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 69; Nicole Trudel, stenographic  
notes, February 1, 2005 at 108.  
160 See in particular Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 109-114.  
161 It was only in job vacancy notice A-12, which was solely for internal employees, that it was indicated  
that a class 3 or a class 5 licence was required. It was specified that the vacant position was in the  
Québec City area and that the vehicles used by network operators in that area did not require the driver to  
hold a class 5 licence.  
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[157] The fact remains that, even in 1995, potential candidates had to have a class 3  
licence before knowing whether they had been accepted for hiring. That implies that an  
interested person had to spend several hundred dollars for training leading to a class 3  
driver’s licence, without being in any way assured of ultimately having a job as a  
network operator. Since an infinitesimal minority of holders of class 3 driver’s licences  
were women, it is quite obvious that that requirement was a definite burden for them.  
That prerequisite constituted a major obstacle that discouraged women from applying  
for the job.  
[158] Furthermore, although according to the evidence it is not possible to know  
whether the seven victims in this case were or were not rejected on that basis, it is still  
relevant to examine the discriminatory effect of the requirement of a class 3 licence.  
Bear in mind that at issue here is, first and foremost, a broader case of systemic  
discrimination. The individual cases of the victims are part of that context, not vice  
versa. Hence, it is relevant to study the discriminatory nature of that prerequisite, even if  
it is shown that it was not necessarily that requirement that was the reason for the  
victims’ failure in their attempt(s) to obtain a job as a network operator.  
[159] It is true in this case that the cost of the courses required to obtain a class 3  
licence and the conditions under which it was obtained were the same for men and  
women. In fact, the Commission is not contesting as discriminatory the conditions or the  
prohibitive cost. Rather, the standard contested is the requirement, as formulated by  
Gaz Métro, of a class 3 licence before being hired. Expert Jeanrie said the following in  
that regard:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Here, the problem associated with the choice of that requirement was not its  
relevance, but its timing. In this case, it was required before starting work, i.e.  
candidates had to have the licence even before they submitted their candidacies.  
[T]hree (3) or four (4) percent of women, if I recall correctly, were said to have a  
class 3 licence.  
Hence, the situation put women at a disadvantage in that they were prevented  
from submitting their candidacies, whereas, at a later date, they would be able to  
obtain that licence if they succeeded in the other stages.  
Therefore, making that an entry requirement put female candidates at a  
disadvantage.162  
[160] Even though the standard was apparently neutral and applied equally to  
everyone, it is obvious that its effects were discriminatory to women. The context  
prevailing in 1995 must be considered. Women were under-represented in the position  
162 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 55-57.  
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of network operator at Gaz Métro and the company set up special recruitment  
competitions to correct that situation. But women were also extremely under-  
represented in the pool of people holding class 3 driver’s licences, which Gaz Métro  
required before hiring. As regards that requirement alone, the pool of qualified women  
was quite small. Their only option was to hurry up and obtain that licence before being  
hired, which, considering the cost of the preparatory courses, definitely had a “chilling  
effect” on them. Therefore, in and of itself, that requirement disproportionately excluded  
women.  
[161] The Tribunal believes that the Commission discharged its burden of proving  
prima facie that the requirement that the candidate have a class 3 driver’s licence  
before being hired was discriminatory toward women, inasmuch as it excluded them  
disproportionately from the position of network operator. It is therefore now necessary to  
examine, in accordance with the test developed in Meiorin, whether Gaz Métro fulfilled  
its obligation to justify that discriminatory standard.  
[162] The first stage in that analysis requires the employer to demonstrate a rational  
connection between the objective underlying the contested standard and the  
performance of the work involved. The work contemplated in this case is the position of  
network operator, in which employees often had to drive trucks and travel in order to  
respond to emergency calls. As for the requirement that the candidate hold a class 3  
licence before being hired, it met the objective of ensuring that the network trainees  
were functional when they began their training period.  
[163] However, the very objective of the immediate functionality of network employees  
is questionable, despite the demonstrated extent and significance of the two years of  
internal training and the entry-level status of the position. As Gaz Métro expressed the  
desire to remedy the under-representation of women in the position of network operator,  
those two objectives, namely, ensuring the functionality of trainees when they began  
their training and hiring women on a priority basis for the position of network operator,  
appear not only to compete with each other but to be incompatible. And even if the  
justification for the objective of immediate functionality of trainees were not questioned,  
the requirement formulated by Gaz Métro that network trainees hold a class 3 licence  
before being hired would nevertheless not be rationally connected to that objective  
since it was demonstrated that the first six months of the training period were spent  
paired with an experienced employee, and therefore that the effectiveness of trainees  
did not depend on the whether they held such a licence or not.  
[164] For these reasons, the Tribunal finds that Gaz Métro did not prove the rationality  
of the connection between the requirement of a class 3 licence at hiring and the  
objective underlying that requirement. Furthermore, had I concluded the opposite, the  
evidence still would not make it possible to conclude that the defendants established the  
defence of undue hardship related to the accommodation requested, which constitutes  
the second stage in the Meiorin test.  
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[165] Under that second obligation, Gaz Métro also had to seek to reasonably  
accommodate the women so that they could, with full equality, fill the position of network  
operator. The jurisprudence is very clear that the reasonable accommodation measures  
required for the full realization of the right to equality are an integral part of that right,  
unless undue hardship results.163 It was therefore up to Gaz Métro to ensure that its  
recruitment standards included reasonable accommodation measures, with no undue  
hardship, so as to ensure the real equality of women upon being hired.164  
[166] In this case, the only easing of requirements granted by Gaz Métro in 1995 was  
to accept that female candidates not have a class 3 licence when they submitted their  
candidacy. However, they had to hold the licence when they were hired. But that  
measure cannot be considered a reasonable accommodation inasmuch as it in no way  
remedied the problem identified, since the female candidates still had make  
arrangements to take, and had to pay for, the practical courses leading to a class 3  
licence even before knowing whether they would be hired.  
[167] Furthermore, as adduced in evidence, a network trainee was paired with an  
experienced employee for the first six months of training.165 When travelling by truck,  
the trainee was therefore always with a senior employee.166 As I mentioned earlier, a  
class 3 learner’s licence that the apprentice had to hold for at least three months before  
obtaining a full class 3 driver’s licence allowed the trainee to drive class 3 vehicles if  
accompanied by a holder of a class 3 licence. Thus, a network trainee could simply  
have a class 3 learner’s licence for the initial months of the training period, as the  
trainee was working with an experienced employee. There is no doubt whatsoever that  
that example of accommodation would allow the very small proportion of women who  
have that type of licence to fill the position of network operator with full equality,  
provided they could wait for confirmation that they were hired before seeking to obtain  
their class 3 licence. When asked whether they had even contemplated the possibility of  
such an accommodation, Jean-Pierre Raymond, as well as Sylvie Richard and Carole  
Magnan, said they had not.167  
[168] Letter of understanding P-2 between Gaz Métro and the Syndicat clearly  
stipulated that the same skills were going to be required of women seeking to be  
recruited. But the accommodation required in this case is not tantamount to the lowering  
163 See in particular Andrews v. Law Society of British Columbia, [1989] 1 S.C.R. 143 at 169;  
Commission scolaire régionale de Chambly v. Bergevin, [1994] 2 S.C.R. 525 at 544; Québec  
(Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Sûreté du Québec, 2007  
QC T.D.P. 13 at para. 79; Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v.  
Québec (Procureur général) (March 9, 2005), Québec 200-53-000029-046, J.E. 2005-780 at para. 55  
(QC T.D.P.).  
164 See Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 68.  
165 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 80-82.  
166 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 120-121.  
167 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 123-125; Sylvie Richard,  
stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 68-72; Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at  
104-105.  
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of quality standards. Rather, in the context of under-representation described, it was a  
matter of promoting the real equality of women compared with men by making the  
required adjustments to the usual standards so that women could demonstrate that they  
were able to perform the work safely and efficiently.  
[169] What is more, judging that the special 1995 measure did not bear fruit, Gaz  
Métro decided, in 1996, to reinstate its usual rule that candidates had to have that  
licence when they submitted their candidacies. That means the company raised no  
further questions about the exclusionary effect of that standard, the real effectiveness of  
the measure adopted in 1995 or the possibility of offering a true reasonable  
accommodation measure likely to remedy the exclusionary effect.  
[170] According to Jean-Pierre Raymond, granting the accommodation requested, i.e.  
allowing network trainees to take steps to obtain a class 3 driver’s licence after it was  
confirmed that they had been hired would impose an undue hardship on Gaz Métro. In  
his testimony, Mr. Raymond explained that that measure would be too problematic  
because the trainees would have to be absent from work in order to take the practical  
courses required to obtain the licence, since the offices of the Société de l’assurance  
automobile du Québec (SAAQ) were open only during the day, and that would be  
[TRANSLATION] “unmanageable”.168 But the only time that the employees actually had  
to go to the SAAQ was for the road test. Otherwise, they could practice beforehand  
somewhere besides the SAAQ, using leased trucks.169  
[171] Mr. Raymond also mentioned that, in 1992, Gaz Métro had let two network  
trainees obtain their class 3 licence during their training period, but the problems that  
created at the time convinced the company of the need to demand the licence at the  
start of the selection process. Around the end of the six months of network training, one  
of the two people almost failed the road test for the licence; if the trainee had failed it,  
Gaz Métro would have dismissed him. Mr. Raymond explained that, if that had been the  
case, Gaz Métro would have invested six months of time and salary to train a network  
operator who, having failed to obtain the licence at the end of the six-month training  
period, would have had to be fired.170 So Gaz Métro did not want to risk needlessly  
incurring such expenses.  
[172] The Tribunal acknowledges that that risk could pose a certain hardship for Gaz  
Métro. However, according to the relevant jurisprudence, “some hardship” is  
acceptable, as long as it is not undue.171 In this case, not only did Gaz Métro fail to  
prove that coming to an arrangement with trainees who undertook to obtain their class 3  
licence a few months after the start of their training period would cause it undue  
168 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 110-111.  
169 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 119-120.  
170 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 109-111.  
171 See Meiorin, supra note 56 at para. 62, citing Central Okanagan School District No. 23 v. Renaud,  
[1992] 2 S.C.R. 970 at 984. See also Central Alberta Dairy Pool v. Alberta (Human Rights Commission),  
supra note 80.  
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hardship, but it was also adduced in evidence that the company did not even consider,  
from a procedural standpoint, proposing such an accommodation.  
[173] In addition, the Tribunal notes that accommodations or at least measures making  
it easier to obtain a licence to drive heavy vehicles are found in companies comparable  
to Gaz Métro. For example, in her testimony, Marie-Claude Côté said she obtained her  
class 1 licence in 1993 in the very framework of internal training provided by Hydro-  
Québec, and she did not even have to pay the cost.172 Serge Fortin, staffing advisor for  
the Société de transport de Montréal (STM), explained in his testimony that the STM  
requires candidates for the position of bus driver to have only a class 5 driver’s licence  
at the outset. When a candidate is chosen, he or she is encouraged to take steps to  
obtain a class 2 licence as soon as possible. According to Mr. Fortin, less than 1% of  
candidates fail the preparatory courses for that type of licence. Noting that the high cost  
of training for a class 2 licence reduced the number of women who registered for it, the  
STM also came to an agreement with a financial institution to facilitate the granting of  
loans to candidates who needed them. The STM also decided to have a monthly draw  
for a $1000 bursary for a new employee who had become a driver during the month.173  
[174] In short, other large companies set up measures involving adjustments that  
concretely facilitated access by women to non-traditional jobs. Gaz Métro, on the other  
hand, did not even examine the possibility of a reasonable accommodation in the form  
of a period of time in which women could obtain their class 3 licence after being hired.  
Lastly, Gaz Métro did not prove that such an accommodation would constitute undue  
hardship for the company. For all these reasons, even if the Tribunal had found a  
rational connection between the requirement of a class 3 licence before being hired and  
the objective of rapidly ensuring the functionality of trainees, Gaz Métro did not establish  
to the Tribunal’s satisfaction that that requirement, which disproportionately excluded  
female candidates for the position of network operation, was reasonably necessary.  
3.2.2.2 Secondary V diploma  
[175] As indicated earlier, one of the prerequisites listed in job profile P-3 is a  
secondary school diploma. Women are not under-represented in the pool of people with  
the diploma and were not under-represented during the period at issue.174  
[176] In this case, the Commission in no way contests the relevance of having  
completed Secondary V in order to be hired for the position of network operator. First of  
all, the victims all had a secondary school diploma when they submitted their  
candidacies at Gaz Métro. It is therefore possible to affirm that none of those women  
were rejected on that basis. But, inasmuch as certain aspects of the theoretical  
172 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 69.  
173 Serge Fortin, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 75-79.  
174 See section 3.1 for an analysis of that issue.  
 
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examination used to evaluate basic Secondary V knowledge were apparently at a  
higher level,175 that requirement potentially poses a problem.176  
[177] In addition, the Tribunal notes some easing of the rule regarding the secondary  
school diploma in the internal recruitment at Gaz Métro. The various job profiles of the  
people already employed by Gaz Métro indicate the requirement of a Secondary V  
diploma [TRANSLATION] “or the equivalent”,177 which is not as strict a requirement as  
that applied in the special competitions used to recruit women outside Gaz Métro.  
3.2.2.3 Non-traditional experience  
[178] I will first give, in rapid succession, the relevant experience listed in P-  
3C: experience on construction sites; in horticulture; on a farm; on an assembly line, or  
in waterworks, a refinery or an underground system; handling a variety of equipment:  
blowers, sprinkler systems, air guns, mechanical parts; lifestyle including repair and  
maintenance of a vehicle, etc.  
[179] Although non-traditional experience is explicitly mentioned only in job profile P-  
3C, used for external recruitment in 1995, that requirement was still indicated in  
subsequent recruitments.178 However, although profile P-3C does not say that Gaz  
Métro considered non-traditional experience to be a strict requirement for a job as a  
network operator, and although non-traditional experience is indicated instead under the  
heading of [TRANSLATION] “relevant experience”, Gaz Métro absolutely required  
certain very special experience and rejected candidates on the basis of non-traditional  
experience that was deemed irrelevant.  
[180] For example, Line Beaudoin had worked in a slaughterhouse in 1978, at a time  
when very few women worked in that field.179 She did automobile mechanics and liked  
manual work. But she was told that she did not have [TRANSLATION] “the job  
profile”.180 In that regard, Gaz Métro seemed to want to downplay the relevance of Ms.  
Beaudoin’s non-traditional experience by pointing out that it dated back to 1978.181 On  
the evaluation sheet that Sylvie Richard filled out at the time of Ms. Beaudoin’s  
interview, she noted that Ms. Beaudoin had [TRANSLATION] “no relevant training or  
experience”.182  
175 A-8: partial qualification examination for service employees and comments; D-14: copy of the  
preliminary report prepared by Lucien Aubé, professor at the department of education sciences of UQAM,  
dated December 10, 1997 at 2.  
176 See section 3.3.4 for an analysis of that issue.  
177 D-51, supra note 138; D-56, supra note 138.  
178 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 194.  
179 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 205, 236-239 and 268-269.  
180 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 204.  
181 Arguments of Gaz Métro, June 4, 2007 at para. 594.  
182 P-68A: evaluation sheets in a bundle, job applications submitted to Gaz Métro, Line Beaudoin.  
 
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[181] As for Joan Dupont, she obtained a private aircraft pilot’s certificate in 1982 and  
had worked in a sugar bush and on a dairy farm.183 In a telephone conversation with  
Carole Magnan, human resources manager at Gaz Métro, Ms. Magnan explained to  
Ms. Dupont that she perfectly matched the profile of the women the company was  
looking for and advised her to take steps to obtain a class 3 driver’s licence.184  
However, in the interview, Jean-Pierre Raymond told her that, if she had been a  
firefighter in the army or a lumberjack, he would have taken that into account, but that  
her prior experience was not relevant to the job.185 Rather, Mr. Raymond asked her  
whether she had knowledge of electricity or plumbing, to which she responded that, as  
a single mother, the maintenance of her dwelling enabled her to know a bit in those  
areas.186 It does not seem that Mr. Raymond noted that positive point, but continued  
with questions about Ms. Dupont’s availability, given her family status.187 He concluded  
the interview by saying she [TRANSLATION] “did not have the profile” and that the  
selection process would go no further in her case. She therefore could not take the  
theoretical examination because, even if she passed it, she did not have the proper  
profile.188 Just as in Ms. Beaudoin’s case, it was noted on her evaluation sheet that she  
had [TRANSLATION] “no training or experience whatsoever in non-traditional work”,189  
despite the experience mentioned earlier.  
[182] [TRANSLATION] “Non-traditional” experience necessarily refers, in a woman’s  
case at least, to a job usually held by men. Added in 1995, the requirement of non-  
traditional experience therefore necessarily applied only to female candidates. The list  
of relevant experience in P-3C is not exhaustiveit ends with “etc.”but note that Gaz  
Métro’s interpretation of that criterion is highly subjective: the examples of Joan Dupont  
and Line Beaudoin are eloquent in that regard. Not only must women alone meet an  
additional requirement, but the requirement is evaluated restrictively, even arbitrarily, as  
if there were only a very limited number of [TRANSLATION] “good responses”.  
[183] That additional requirement imposed on women was apparently explained by  
Gaz Métro’s wish to ascertain their real motivation in applying for the position of network  
operator. The company seemed to believe that a number of the women just wanted to  
find a good job. In fact, expert Denise Perron testified to that effect:  
[TRANSLATION]  
There are many womenand I believe the market still demonstrates thiswho  
are not interested in non-traditional jobs. They are not interested in non-  
traditional jobs. But they are looking for a job. So I am going to show you a little  
the approach they take. They are going … they are receiving social aid or  
183 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 38.  
184 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 39.  
185 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 49-50.  
186 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 49.  
187 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 49.  
188 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 50-52.  
189 P-68C: evaluation sheets in a bundle, job applications submitted to Gaz Métro, Marie-Claude Côté.  
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so go take part in a group that will help you find a job and develop all that. The  
women come to us. It’s true that they are not all interested in having a non-  
traditional job. It is a gateway and what they want, like many people, is to get into  
a large organization, get into an organization where they might be unionized,  
where there is good pay and all that. And even, it was somewhat of a problem,  
and then, the potential employer said, OK, the motivation of the women really  
has to be verified. It was a bit of a problem in the organizations. They had women  
they wanted … listen, it’s our mission to integrate them into non-traditional work.  
Success is having them working in non-traditional jobs. And what we noted was  
… well, in fact, once they were in the organization, they veered off toward a  
traditional job. Yes, that was basically what I wanted to say.190  
[184] As I said, men did not have to meet that requirement and Gaz Métro did not  
gauge their [TRANSLATION] “motivation”, at least not from that standpoint. The  
Tribunal notes from the evidence that that different treatment of women based on non-  
traditional experience excluded candidates who could not demonstrate their true  
qualifications for the position of network operator. The result of that differentiation of  
female and male candidates was therefore more serious [TRANSLATION] “screening”  
of the women’s records. That is undeniably a discriminatory element based on sex.  
[185] The Tribunal believes that, even considered in isolation, that discriminatory  
requirement is not rationally connected to Gaz Métro’s objective of recruiting more  
women for the position of network operator.191 By forcing women to meet a requirement  
that few of them were likely to meet, whereas there was already a significant under-  
representation of women in the position offered, Gaz Métro actually imposed a condition  
that could only feed the phenomenon. Given that, it is difficult, to say the least, to  
conclude that such a requirement was rational.  
3.3 External selection process  
[186] According to the reports and testimony of the experts, each stage in the selection  
process must meet validity, relevance and weighting criteria.192 If the stage meets those  
criteria, the candidates are evaluated fairly and their success is accurately predicted.  
More specifically, a selection tool is valid if it has no shortcomings in terms of its design,  
standardization or administration. It is relevant if it measures knowledge, skills,  
aptitudes and qualifications related to the job or the training to be given. It is properly  
weighted if, first, the most significant, critical and frequent qualifications are given a  
higher value than other desirable but less essential qualifications and, second, the  
190 Denise Perron, stenographic notes, September 12, 2006 at 104-105.  
191 The parties analysed the requirement of non-traditional experience as an element of the selection  
instrument consisting in the interview, rather than as a prerequisite in itself, and the analysis will be  
discussed again in section 3.3.3.3, which deals with the questions and themes of the pre-interview.  
192 The expert witnesses who had the mandate to analyse the selection process more particularly and  
who had more to say about it were Chantale Jeanrie, François Boulard, Normand Pettersen and Louis  
Laurencelle. Denise Perron also discussed it incidentally.  
 
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employer correctly evaluates the weight to be given to the qualifications measured at  
that stage compared with those evaluated at other stages.  
[187] The Tribunal wishes to make it clear that its conclusions regarding Gaz Métro’s  
selection process will depend on the evidence as a whole. There is no doubt that  
evidence based on presumption, recognized in civil matters, applies in the same  
manner to discrimination cases.193 In civil law, more often than not, the judge considers  
the evidence as a whole, without regard for the source of the evidentiary element.  
Professor Royer explained the following on the subject, on the basis of a long line of  
authorities:  
[TRANSLATION]  
In concrete circumstances, a litigant often takes the initiative to allege and prove  
facts favourable to him or her, even if the obligation to convince rests with the  
litigant’s adversary. Furthermore, the judicial conclusions generally stem from the  
court’s evaluation of the evidence submitted by the parties, without it being  
necessary to decide which party has the burden of persuasion.194  
[188] The Tribunal will successively analyse here, according to the chronological order  
in which the stages in the selection process took place during the years at issue, the  
information sessions (3.3.1), the management of résumés (3.3.2), the pre-interview  
(3.3.3), the theoretical examination (3.3.4), the practical examination (3.3.5) and the  
medical examination (3.3.6). It will then reach a conclusion on the process as a whole  
(3.3.7). The main selection stages for the position of network operator, namely, the  
interview, the theoretical examination and the practical examination, will be studied in  
light of the three criteria of validity, relevance and weighting explained earlier.  
3.3.1 Information sessions  
[189] In June 1995, that is, at the very start of the special recruitment competition, Gaz  
Métro organized information sessions for female candidates for the position of network  
operator. The sessions took place in the presence of Jean-Pierre Raymond and Sylvie  
Richard, sometimes assisted by Carole Magnan. The sessions lasted about two hours  
and began with the screening of a video showing a male Gaz Métro employee, played  
by an actor with a deep voice, and gas, represented by a high-pitched female voice.195  
All the other employees in the video were men, and [TRANSLATION] “the guys on the  
team” were mentioned twice.  
[190] Jean-Pierre Raymond then explained to the participants the various stages in the  
internal training and mentioned that they would be dismissed if they failed any one of  
them. He also explained the steps to take to obtain a class 3 driver’s licence, the costs  
involved and the obligation to hold that licence before being hired. Participants were  
193 See Compagnie minière Québec-Cartier v. Québec (Commission des droits de la personne)  
(December 7, 1998) Québec 200-09-000495-942 at 28-29 (C.A.).  
194 Jean-Claude Royer, La preuve civile, 3rd ed. (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2003) at para. 191.  
195 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 196.  
 
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then given two documents, one about working conditions and the job profile (D-33), and  
the other explaining the steps in obtaining a class 3 driver’s licence (D-47).  
[191] The session was also an opportunity to describe the clothing and security  
equipment supplied by Gaz Métro. In that regard, Mr. Raymond jokingly said that  
women need only bring their [TRANSLATION] “drawers” and that everything else  
(boots, pants, jackets, shirts, gloves, etc.) was provided by the company.196 Apparently,  
he always cracked the same joke to both men and women when he led the information  
session. Line Beaudoin, who attended a session, said that statement was greeted with  
silence in the room.197 Mr. Raymond also took that opportunity to inform the women that  
they would not be given any favours.198 He said only one women held the position of  
network operator at the time and that it had been very difficult for her to make a place  
for herself. He underscored the importance of [TRANSLATION] “being part of the  
gang”.199  
[192] The Tribunal notes that the information provided by Jean-Pierre Raymond in the  
sessions was, in a way, a set of additional difficulties to be overcome by the candidates:  
[TRANSLATION] “don’t expect to get a free ride because you are women”; the only  
woman in the position found it very difficult to be accepted; the video talked about  
[TRANSLATION] “us guys”; there would be [TRANSLATION] “guy” jokes and even the  
boss made them; to obtain the driver’s licence, you had to spend several hundred  
dollars, and it had to be obtained before you were hired; just one failure during the two-  
year training period would result in dismissal.200  
[193] These comments, taken in isolation, may seem harmless. But made in the  
context of an information session aimed at making women familiar with a position to  
which they were to be given access on a priority basis, they underpinned a certain  
negative perception of the place of women in the position. Rather than encouraging  
women to submit their candidacy, the comments were no doubt likely to discourage  
them, whether or not that was Gaz Métro’s intention.  
[194] The information sessions were held on three occasions in 1995 and 20 to 30  
people attended each session. In 1996, Gaz Métro abandoned them because it felt they  
had not helped to recruit a significant number of women. That means the company did  
not question the reasons that might explain the ineffectiveness of the information  
sessions in achieving the objective sought; it preferred to simply cancel them.  
196 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 207.  
197 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 251.  
198 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 196.  
199 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 197.  
200 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 200.  
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[195] Upon receipt of résumés, Gaz Métro selected candidates. Danielle Gauthier,  
employment office clerk under the supervision of Carole Magnan in 1995, codified the  
CVs and sent them to Ms. Magnan.201 Sylvie Richard then analysed them. While  
requirements regarding knowledge, skills and physical strength were evaluated through  
tests, requirements in terms of Secondary V schooling, the class 3 driver’s licence and  
experience in a non-traditional job could disqualify a candidate if not met, i.e. the  
candidate would not be called for an interview.202 So on that basis, Ms. Richard decided  
whether or not to call the candidates in for an interview.203 Carole Magnan and Jean-  
Pierre Raymond intervened in the selection process only when Ms. Richard asked them  
for an opinion about a CV, which was rare.  
[196] Normand Pettersen, an expert witness for Gaz Métro, admitted that choosing  
CVs was an important stage in the selection process. He added that he did not analyse  
that stagealthough he should havegiven that he did not have the necessary data  
when he wrote his final report.204  
[197] According to Danielle Gauthier, the CVs were kept for about six months if they  
were rejected and for one or two years if the candidates were chosen for one of the  
stages in the selection process, after which they were destroyed.205 Despite that, Sylvie  
Richard found in the archives the files of people who were not hired from 1995 to 1997.  
So files that were supposed to have been destroyed were kept and Ms. Richard could  
not guarantee the accuracy of the archived material. Furthermore, there is a list of the  
archived files, but no list of the files that were destroyed.206 The job of archiving was  
often given to students employed by Gaz Métro during the summer207 and the archive  
boxes were not properly identified.  
[198] Since then, documents have been lost or erroneously destroyed. Hence, the data  
provided by Gaz Métro was often adjusted and revised during the hearing before the  
Tribunal. Those changes considerably diminish their reliability and mar the company’s  
credibility, given that it wanted to attract female candidates but was not careful in  
handling the files transmitted by them.  
[199] At this stage, the Tribunal formulates no particular conclusion about the  
management of CVs, but merely observes its shortcomings.  
201 Danielle Gauthier, stenographic notes, June 1, 2005 at 10.  
202 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 185.  
203 A-23, responses, 2b).  
204 A-19, at 22; Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 245.  
205 Danielle Gauthier, stenographic notes, June 1, 2005 at 111 and 123-124. See also Sylvie Richard,  
stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 66 and 173.  
206 Danielle Gauthier, stenographic notes, June 1, 2005 at 111-112; Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes,  
February 9, 2006 at 66.  
207 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 233.  
 
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[200] I will first discuss, from a logical standpoint, the interview procedure (3.3.3.1),  
then the interview tools (3.3.3.2) and a few particular questions and themes in them  
(3.3.3.3). After describing the interview, I will deal with its nature and discuss the quality  
criteria of an interview as a stage in the selection process (3.3.3.4). Lastly, I will draw  
conclusions about that stage in the selection process (3.3.3.5).  
3.3.3.1 People interviewed, interviewers and general interview  
procedure  
[201] A candidate could be disqualified at the interview stage, just as at the theoretical  
and practical examination stages,208 since in each case, candidates who did not meet  
the company’s criteria were then eliminated. In Gaz Métro’s normal recruitment process,  
the interview usually took place at the end of the selection process,209 after the  
candidates had passed the theoretical and practical examinations, and thus served to  
confirm the selection of the candidate. But in the special competition held in 1995, the  
interview was exceptionally held before the tests, and for the female candidates only.210  
However, Gaz Métro put an end to that procedure the following year. As for candidates  
from the CSN unit within Gaz Métro, they did not have to undergo an interview because  
they were presumed to have the required profile.211  
[202] Note that, in 1995, not all the candidates were interviewed before taking the  
examinations. Sylvie Richard explained that no criterion differentiated the candidates  
who had to have an interview from those that could take the theoretical examination  
immediately. A lack of time motivated the interviewers to interview certain candidates,  
since they had until October 2, 1995 to fill the positions available.212  
[203] Jean-Pierre Raymond justified placing the interview at the beginning of the  
selection process for the women by saying that they wanted to expand the pool of  
female candidates. But according to expert Erika Boukamp Bosch, an interview is not  
the appropriate way to expand a pool of female candidates.213 Expert Pettersen did not  
believe that the pre-interview constituted different treatment of the women. He was of  
the opinion that the order of stages in the selection process did not affect the ratios and  
that the women who failed in the interview at the start would have also failed at the end  
of the selection process.214 However, the theoretical and practical examinations made  
the candidates more familiar with the job of network operator, which could but increase  
208 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 83-84.  
209 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 69.  
210 D-84A, supra note 18 at 10.  
211 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 168.  
212 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006, at 79 and 83.  
213 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 177.  
214 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 127.  
   
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their chances of success in the interview, not to mention that prior success on the two  
examinations was likely to make a good impression on the interviewers.  
[204] The experts agreed on the importance of the interviewers’ competence,  
especially since the interviewers had to make a subjective judgment about the  
candidates.215 During the years at issue, Sylvie Richard conducted interviews and took  
notes. Jean-Pierre Raymond assisted her, unless he was on vacation.216 First, Ms.  
Richard started out as a secretary who was promoted within the company and became  
a staffing officer and finally a staffing advisor, but without completing her human  
resources certificate.217 In that training, only a few days were devoted to selection  
interviews.218 As for Mr. Raymond, who saw to the development of the position of  
network operator over the years, he was very familiar with the job and [TRANSLATION]  
“had it in mind” in the interviews, according to Normand Pettersen.219 Mr. Raymond took  
only one staffing course when he studied for his management and marketing  
certificate.220  
[205] However, not only was Mr. Raymond not present for some interviews,221 but  
when he was, his role was rather passive. He limited himself to explaining the position  
of network operator and responding to more technical questions, if there were any.222 In  
addition, an agency conducted some interviews by phone.223 In that regard, expert  
Pettersen stressed the importance of always having the same evaluators conduct the  
interviews.224  
[206] In Ms. Richard’s opinion, the purpose of the pre-interview was to give women an  
opportunity to demonstrate their relevant non-traditional experience.225 She also wrote  
to expert Pettersen that the interview was aimed at ascertaining the candidate’s  
capacity to advance in the job.226 But according to Mr. Raymond, the interview was in  
keeping with Gaz Métro’s desire to have a new pool of candidacies by women.227  
Hence, it seems that the objective underlying the interview was not clarified and the two  
interviewers had a very different understanding of it: on the one hand, to get to know the  
[TRANSLATION] “clientele”; on the other, to enable women to demonstrate their  
215 See in particular François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 176-178.  
216 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 68; Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic  
notes, January 26, 2006 at 227; Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 42.  
217 Sylvie Richard, February 17, 2006 at 189-190.  
218 Sylvie Richard, February 17, 2006 at 189-190.  
219 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 107.  
220 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 169.  
221 For example, he was absent from Shirley Thomas’s interview. See Jean-Pierre Raymond,  
stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 151.  
222 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 42.  
223 That was particularly the case with Danielle Varin, who was a candidate for the position of network  
operator in 1996. See Danielle Varin, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 8-9.  
224 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 196.  
225 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 74 et seq.  
226 A-23 in a bundle, point 7b).  
227 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 151-152.  
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experience. Furthermore, Ms. Richard and Mr. Raymond also implied that the interview  
was to be used to ascertain whether the candidates had the job profile and whether they  
could succeed in the internal training.  
[207] In that context, the Tribunal notes that Gaz Métro decided to undertake a broad-  
based pre-interview process without even clearly establishing its objective.  
3.3.3.2 Interview tools  
[208] Sylvie Richard developed her own interview checklist (P-8), which she has  
invariably used since 1992, with the exception of question 6, on the integration of  
women, which was added in 1995.228 She developed checklist P-8 on the basis of the  
various documents used for interview purposes (D-58 in a bundle), to which she added  
questions from the question bank developed by a colleague, François Messier.  
Checklist P-8 contains 18 questions, but Ms. Richard admitted that others were added  
depending on the responses obtained. The Tribunal deems it useful for comprehension  
purposes to reproduce the questions here:  
[TRANSLATION]  
1.  
2.  
3.  
4.  
Can you give me a brief summary of your career until now (training and  
experience)?  
What experience did you enjoy the most and why? What experience did  
you enjoy the least and why?  
Given what you know about the position, what leads you to believe you  
are right for the job?  
What aspects of the job interest you the most?  
What aspects of the job interest you the least?  
How is this position in line with your career plan?  
How do you think a woman can properly integrate a non-traditional (male)  
environment? (Particular expectations about your integration in terms of  
support)  
5.  
6.  
7.  
8.  
9.  
Tell me about a situation you found stressful.  
What attitudes and behaviour do you tolerate the least in other people?  
Have you ever had a conflict with an immediate superior or a co-worker?  
(Can you tell me something about it?)  
10.  
11.  
12.  
13.  
14.  
Give me an example of a situation in which you did not change your  
decision even though others contested it.  
Tell me about a situation in which your positive attitude motivated the  
people around you.  
Tell me about a situation in which another person really tried your  
patience.  
Tell me about a situation at work in which you were congratulated for the  
effort you put into a job.  
Tell me about a situation in which you helped to create a team spirit  
around you.  
228 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 70.  
 
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15.  
16.  
17.  
18.  
How would people who know you well describe you (qualities,  
shortcomings)?  
What particular aspect of your personality have you been working on over  
the past two years?  
Apart from financial well-being, what particularly motivates you to go to  
work every day?  
Why would you like to work at Gaz Métro?  
[209] Ms. Richard also designed her own model interview summary (P-47), which she  
used to take notes; she preferred to use the evaluation checklist only as a reference.229  
Besides the name of the candidate, the title of the position sought and the date of the  
interview, P-47 contains the following information: the type of driver’s licence held,  
experience, training, strengths, weaknesses and special notes. A heading was also  
included for the candidate’s examination results, if she took any, and another, in the  
upper right-hand corner, was a checklist where a few characteristic features of the  
candidate could be noted. Having read the sheets filled out by Sylvie Richard for each  
of the victims in this case, the Tribunal also notes that she wrote the name of the  
organizationATF, for examplethe candidate was from. In addition, Ms. Richard gave  
each candidate a rating: [TRANSLATION] “rejected”, “B”, “A” or “A+” according to her  
general impression and the degree to which the candidate corresponded to the profile in  
her opinion.230 She explained at the hearing that an “A” rating indicated that the  
candidate corresponded to the profile and that an “A+” rating meant that she  
corresponded [TRANSLATION] “even more” to the profile. Which raises the question:  
Even more than what?  
[210] Ms. Richards stated in her testimony that she did not always take notes during  
the interview. Sometimes, she made notes afterward, in which case she relied on her  
memory.231 She made notes alone or with Mr. Raymond.232 Expert Jeanrie explained  
that that procedure, i.e. taking notes afterward, is not recommended because one must  
rely more on memory than on the facts and, thus, a certain bias can be introduced into  
the evaluation of the responses.233 Furthermore, sheet P-47 was not always used from  
1995 to 1997. Sometimes simple notes were taken during the interview instead. As for  
Mr. Raymond, he simply referred to document P-29, a sort of job description that has  
much in common with job profile P-3.  
[211] Expert Jeanrie also considered that the absence of an evaluation checklist was a  
shortcoming because the evaluation was therefore too subjective and vague. In her  
opinion, it should have been determined how many points would be attributed to given  
aspects and what value should be given to each response. Otherwise, biases could  
affect the evaluation and it became more likely that the evaluation would reflect the  
229 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 98.  
230 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 131 et seq.  
231 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 126 and 142.  
232 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 75.  
233 P-43, supra note 10 at 29; Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 32.  
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application of arbitrary criteria with no direct ink to the job.234 She added that sheet P-8  
is not a real interview checklist.235  
[212] Expert Pettersen also felt that sheet P-47 was deficient, especially because the  
questions had no expected responses, thus increasing the risk of error236 since the  
interviewers’ evaluation was merely general.237  
[213] Moreover, according to expert Jeanrie, consistent note-taking is important in  
evaluating candidates fairly.238 An evaluator can, as he or she chooses, cite excerpts  
from the candidates’ commentswhich is the modus operandi preferred by the  
expertor note qualifications, but alternating between the two methods introduces a  
bias.239  
[214] In addition, Ms. Jeanrie indicated that the comments were noted in a general  
manner, and were not organized according to each question, which fosters subjectivity.  
Evaluation checklist P-47 also contained a section entitled [TRANSLATION] “Strong  
points, weak points”, but interview checklist P-8 did not define what constituted a strong  
point or a weak point. It would have been preferable, according to expert Jeanrie, to  
refer specifically to the requirements of the position.240  
3.3.3.3 Particular questions and themes of the interview  
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Evaluation of personal skills  
[215] It was admitted that the theoretical and practical examinations given by Gaz  
Métro were aimed at measuring technical and manual knowledge and skills. Through  
the questions it contained, the interview was aimed essentially at measuring personal  
qualities and interests corresponding to the requirements indicated in the job profile.  
That means that the [TRANSLATION] “personal qualities” listed previously241 were  
evaluated in the interview. In that regard, Sylvie Richard explained that the word  
[TRANSLATION] “profile” on her evaluation sheet P-47 refers to those qualities.242 She  
also indicated that the responses given by the candidates on that subject had to be  
related to the qualities listed in profile P-3C.  
[216] According to Ms. Richard, there was a consensus at Gaz Métro regarding the  
evaluation of personal qualities; those qualities were deemed to be required for the  
234 P-43, supra note 10 at 32.  
235 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 67.  
236 A-19, supra note 18 at 33; Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 11, 2006 at 41.  
237 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 219.  
238 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 29 et seq.  
239 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 33.  
240 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 68.  
241 See section 3.2.1.2. supra for the list of these qualities.  
242 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 133.  
 
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position of network operator.243 Expert Boulard confirmed only in part that it was  
appropriate to require those qualities. First, he felt that the evaluation of personal  
qualities should not be limited to [TRANSLATION] “white-collar” positions and that such  
an evaluation has its place in the framework of access to the position of network  
operator. He explained that, for example, the so-called quality of being [TRANSLATION]  
“flexible, but assured” can constitute a relational quality sought not so much for the  
performance of a duty as for the training period.244 He also admitted that the people in  
charge of hiring at Gaz Métro, particularly Sylvie Richard, never formally ascertained  
whether there was a link between the questions asked and the qualities they wanted to  
evaluate.245 Despite that, Mr. Boulard said he gauged that link himself and noted that it  
existed.  
[217] In the opinion of expert Jeanrie, the themes broached in the interview were not  
defined according to the requirements of the job, making the link between the qualities  
sought and the qualities measured in the interview that much more complex.246 For  
example, in Line Beaudoin’s case, no strength was noted, not even in question 15:  
“How do the people who know you well describe you?”. But the word [TRANSLATION]  
“dishonest” is written, whereas Ms. Beaudoin certainly did not make that statement  
herself.247 What is more, not all the elements noted by Sylvie Richard were related to  
the requirements appearing in the job profile.  
[218] Having read the candidates’ evaluation sheets (P-68 in a bundle), the Tribunal  
notes that certain remarks show a lack of respect for the candidates. For example, on  
Line Beaudoin’s sheet, Ms. Richard also added the adjective [TRANSLATION]  
“dishonest”, in the section on weaknesses, [TRANSLATION] “impertinent” and  
[TRANSLATION] “pretentious”. More surprising, the Tribunal noted the subjectivity of  
the evaluation sheets and the elements and comments they contain, such as  
[TRANSLATION] “quick-witted”, [TRANSLATION] “cheerful”, [TRANSLATION] “likes  
competence”, [TRANSLATION] “quick to criticize”, [TRANSLATION] “organized”,  
[TRANSLATION] “arrogant”, [TRANSLATION] “pride”, [TRANSLATION] “curious”,  
[TRANSLATION] “perfectionist”, [TRANSLATION] “a bit dense”, [TRANSLATION]  
“dopey”,  
[TRANSLATION]  
“too  
good-natured”,  
[TRANSLATION]  
“insolent”,  
[TRANSLATION] “prying”, [TRANSLATION] “pretentious”, [TRANSLATION] “dishonest”,  
etc., which apparently had no connection with the job.  
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Non-traditional experience  
[219] During the special competitions to recruit women, the absence of non-traditional  
experience deemed relevant in their careers led to rejection of their candidacies before  
the theoretical and practical examinations. As I indicated earlier, an initial selection was  
made on the basis of the CV. If the candidate had no non-traditional experience, the CV  
243 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 133 et seq.  
244 François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 188.  
245 François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 108-109, 173-174 and 188.  
246 P-43, supra note 10 at 27-30.  
247 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 18-20 and 35.  
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was withdrawn from the selection process. Then, at the interview stage, the women’s  
non-traditional experience was evaluated subjectively and restrictively since, if the  
experience was deemed insufficient and irrelevant, that was a reason for the  
interviewers to conclude that a candidate did [TRANSLATION] “not have the profile” and  
to refuse her access to the tests.  
[220] For example, Line Beaudoin was not allowed to take the written and practical  
examinations because Sylvie Richard and Jean-Pierre Raymond rejected her candidacy  
at the time of the interview. She was notified that she did not have [TRANSLATION] “the  
profile”.248 But Ms. Beaudoin had worked as an inspector in a slaughterhouse, a non-  
traditional environment at the time, where she was the only woman hired. Despite that,  
on her evaluation sheet P-68, Sylvie Richard indicated [TRANSLATION] “no relevant  
training or experience”.  
[221] As for Joan Dupont, she called Gaz Métro in 1995 for information about the  
position. She spoke with Carole Magnan and told her about her career. Ms. Dupont  
obtained a private pilot’s licence in 1982 and also worked on a dairy farm and in a sugar  
bush. Ms. Magnan told her at that time that she had the profile sought.249 However, in  
her interview, Jean-Pierre Raymond did not consider her experience relevant at all and  
indicated that, in any case, she did not have [TRANSLATION] “the profile” and it was  
therefore not justified for her to take the examinations.250 As in Line Beaudoin’s case,  
her evaluation sheet P-68 contained the comment [TRANSLATION] “no training and no  
non-traditional experience”. In the opinion of Ms. Richard and Mr. Raymond, a private  
pilot’s licence did not necessarily constitute experience in a non-traditional field.251 But  
Umberto Tamboriello, civil aviation inspector at the ministère des Transports, stated in  
his testimony that, in 1982, the year that Joan Dupont obtained her private pilot’s  
licence, there were only four or five women out of roughly 60 civil aviation inspectors.252  
Although Mr. Tamboriello did not provide exact figures for the number of female private  
pilots at that time, the Tribunal has no trouble believing that it was quite uncommon for a  
woman to hold such a licence in 1982.  
[222] The five other victims in the case, namely, Tania Plourde, Marie-Claude Côté,  
Shirley Thomas, Johanne Bolduc and Nicole Trudel, passed the interview stage and it  
was confirmed that they had the right profile. From the standpoint of non-traditional  
experience, Tania Plourde had training in the installation of electric power lines and had  
worked in that field for Hydro-Québec. Marie-Claude Côté had also worked as an  
installer of electric power lines for Hydro-Québec, and then took jointer training at that  
company. She had also served in the Canadian Armed Forces. Shirley Thomas held a  
diploma of college studies in petrochemistry and had done an internship at Petro-  
Canada. She also had her own tree pruning business, in which she saw to everything.  
248 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 204.  
249 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 39.  
250 Joan Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 50.  
251 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 90.  
252 Umberto Tamboriello, stenographic notes, October 11, 2006 at 195.  
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Johanne Bolduc had a BA in civil engineering and had worked for several years as a  
ballast inspector. Nicole Trudel was a welder, had a diploma of vocational studies (DVS)  
in the driving of heavy vehicles and had worked for Canadian Pacific as a driver for the  
transport of hazardous material.  
[223] In his testimony, Jean-Pierre Raymond mentioned the experience of a woman  
already working for Gaz Métro in order to say that the non-traditional experience sought  
consisted in a job in garage mechanics, a job as a caretaker or a job with Canadian  
National.253 He made no mention whatsoever of the other experience listed in profile P-  
3 and did not seem to consider the possibility that other experience could be equally  
relevant.  
[224] Hence, the evaluation by Sylvie Richard and Jean-Pierre Raymond of the non-  
traditional experience required of the candidates was highly subjective and limited, and  
it contributed to the wrongful rejection of certain candidates. The cases of Line  
Beaudoin and Joan Dupont show that a given non-traditional experience could be  
perceived differently depending on the individual. Thus, the vagueness of the notion of  
non-traditional experience for the people in charge of conducting the interview and the  
lack of clarity as regards the objectives of the interview made it easier for biases to be  
introduced into the process in terms of the capacities and aptitudes of the women to  
hold the position of network operator. Furthermore, since a candidate who did not meet  
that requirement was eliminated and the requirement was imposed only on women, the  
Tribunal deems, as it explained earlier,254 that the requirement was discriminatory  
toward women. Hence, the evaluation of non-traditional experience as an element of the  
pre-interview definitely contributed to the requirement’s disproportionately exclusionary  
effect on women.  
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Integration capacity of the women  
[225] The sixth question in the interview, in which the candidates were asked how a  
women could integrate a non-traditional environment like that of the position of network  
operator, was only for women. According to Sylvie Richard, candidates who were  
members of visible minorities were asked a similar question, namely, how they would  
integrate a homogeneous White environment.255 Mr. Raymond added that White men  
were asked the opposite question, i.e. what they thought about the possibility of working  
with women and with people from visible minorities.256 But that was contradicted by  
Sylvie Richard’s testimony.  
[226] The question about the integration of women took several forms, including  
verification of the way the candidate would react when men displayed sexist behaviour  
or made disrespectful jokes. Johanne Bolduc answered that question by saying that, as  
she had worked on construction sites, she believed it was better to ignore such jokes  
253 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 32.  
254 See section 3.2.4 supra for the Tribunal’s reasons in regard to that issue.  
255 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 71-72.  
256 Jean-Pierre-Raymond, stenographic notes, February 7, 2006 at 80.  
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and attitudes.257 Line Beaudoin believed it was preferable to take uncomfortable  
situations of that type with humour.258  
[227] Tania Plourde was asked what she would do to have the men accept her  
ideas.259 Shirley Thomas responded to a similar question by saying that, with time and  
patience, the men would respect her.260 Marie-Claude Côté was sure that integration  
would not be a problem for her, since she had always worked in male environments.261  
[228] Sylvie Richard explained that there were expected [TRANSLATION] “good  
answers” and other answers that were automatically considered [TRANSLATION]  
“bad”.262 For example, she found the response inadequate when a candidate said she  
would not concern herself with integration since that was the company’s  
responsibility.263 But a response indicating that a sense of humour was necessary in a  
male environment and that one must not get caught up in details was considered  
positive.264 Ms. Richard said that question 6 was, in fact, aimed at gauging the women’s  
sense of humour. First establishing that a sense of humour was not a prerequisite per  
se, but rather an ideal, she subsequently admitted that that quality was required to  
integrate a male environment since it demonstrated the flexibility that the women had to  
have.265 But it is obvious that the men’s sense of humour could not be evaluated in the  
same way.  
[229] On that subject, expert Denise Perron expressed the opinion in her report that it  
was not necessaryor rather that it should not be necessaryfor women to be better  
from all standpoints than men in order to be given the same consideration.266  
[230] In a sub-question of question 6, the candidates were asked to give their particular  
expectations of Gaz Métro in terms of support for their integration. The women were  
therefore initially evaluated according to the way they would integrate a traditionally  
male environment and then they had to indicate how they expected to be supported to  
that end. That is contradictory, especially since Sylvie Richard mentioned that a  
response by a candidate that it was up to the employer to see to integration was judged  
negatively. The responses that the interviewers expected from the candidates were  
therefore antinomic and the contradiction makes the question about their integration  
fraught, to say the least.  
257 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 39.  
258 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 203-204.  
259 Tania Plourde, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 160.  
260 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 85.  
261 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 13.  
262 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 83-84.  
263 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 84.  
264 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 84-85.  
265 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 215.  
266 D-80, supra note 16 at 15.  
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[231] According to Normand Pettersen, question 6 gave the women a realistic warning,  
whereas the men did not need such a [TRANSLATION] “disembellishment”.267 He found  
the question relevant and was not surprised that it was asked, since Gaz Métro had to  
ensure that the female candidates were really interested in working in that environment,  
to which they were supposedly not accustomed.268  
[232] Denise Perron felt that such as a question was appropriate if its objective was to  
provide for a way to support the women, but the question should therefore have been  
asked only after the candidate was hired. 269  
[233] In Chantale Jeanrie’s opinion, the question was problematic for several reasons.  
The men were not asked it and it implied that the new employees were themselves  
solely responsible for their own integration. It could also give rise to a [TRANSLATION]  
“social desirability” bias in that the candidates were likely to give a response reflecting  
their perception of what was expected of them in order to please, thus potentially  
fiddling with the truth. Ms. Jeanrie therefore recommended that the question be  
withdrawn.270 In her testimony, she expressed the opinion that it is generally justified to  
provide a somewhat [TRANSLATION] “realistic description of the job” in an interview so  
that candidates are fully aware of the realities of the positionincluding the negative  
onesthey are applying for. However, it is therefore important to proceed that way with  
all candidates, not just one category of them.271  
[234] The Tribunal considers the question about the possible integration of women  
problematic from a number of standpoints. First, women alone were asked the question.  
Perhaps that simple fact is not sufficient to conclude that Gaz Métro placed the  
women’s integration on their own shoulders, but that is not considering the  
[TRANSLATION] “good responses”. Sylvie Richard’s testimony showed that she  
expected the women to mention humour and that “relying on the enterprise” constituted  
a bad response. Falling back on humour in order to integrate a non-traditional  
environment that is potentially hostile to a given groupwomen in this caseis  
tantamount to making the individuals, indeed the victims of such an environment,  
responsible for their successful integration.  
[235] Hence, the Tribunal notes that, through that question, Gaz Métro did not seek to  
find out the measures it had to put in place to foster the integration of women, as the  
company alleged, and that, at the very least, the question did not serve to achieve that  
objective. What is more, not only is a sense of humour not a quality indicated in profile  
P-3, but the evidence does not show that a sense of humour was required of men. That  
means that, to be considered on the same footing as men, women had to do better.  
Since women were likely to evaluated negatively as regards that aspect, the question  
267 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 11, 2006 at 36. See also A-19 at 34.  
268 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 203-204.  
269 D-80, supra note 16 at 14; Denise Perron, stenographic notes, September 11, 2006 at 230-231.  
270 P-43, supra note 10 at 31.  
271 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 70-71.  
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had a discriminatory exclusionary effect based on sex. Furthermore, the fact that none  
of the seven victims in this case was rejected solely on that basis is not probative in a  
broader context of systemic discrimination.  
3.3.3.4 Nature and evaluation of the interview  
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Nature of the interview  
[236] Experts Jeanrie, Boulard and Pettersen explained in turn what characterizes a  
structured, semi-structured and unstructured interview, and expressed an opinion on the  
nature of Gaz Métro’s interviews during the period at issue.  
[237] According to expert Jeanrie, the degree to which an interview is structured has a  
definite impact on its predictive value. She listed the four main factors that constitute a  
structured interview: the interview is related to the essential elements of the position; the  
questions are standardized and focus more on simulations that make it possible to  
evaluate candidates’ behaviour rather than on their opinions; the interview is conducted  
in a standardized manner; and an interview checklist links the questions, what they  
measure, the responses and the respective value they are to be given.  
[238] According to that, a classic interview, which is not very structured, is much more  
subjective than a structured situational or behavioural interview.272 Expert Jeanrie said  
that those two types of interviews can be considered particularly valid.273  
[239] In her opinion, a situational interview is the most structured form of interview,  
because it is more predictive of future behaviour. It usually consists in questions in the  
form of simulations, in which the candidate faces a dilemma and must say how he or  
she would proceed. A list of responses accompanies each question and points are  
given for the different responses possible.274  
[240] A behavioural interview is based on the theory that past behaviour is the best  
predictor of future behaviour. For example, if one of the requirements of the position is  
team work, a candidate can be asked to relate an experience in which he or she had to  
work as part of a team in an emergency situation. Sub-questions are then asked in  
order to examine the principal theme in more depth. As with a situational interview, a  
scale indicating the number of points for each type of response is provided.275  
[241] Analysing Gaz Métro’s interview in light of the above four criteria for a structured  
interview, Ms. Jeanrie reached the conclusion that it was neither situational nor  
behavioural, but rather unstructured and classic.276 She in fact believed the  
272 P-43, supra note 10 at 27-29.  
273 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 65.  
274 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 62-63.  
275 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 64-65.  
276 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 65-66.  
 
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standardization of administration of the interview and the questions asked were  
deficient, the absence of a complete scale undermined the process and the interview  
was not adequately linked to the job.277  
[242] Expert Boulard also acknowledged the superiority of a structured interview and  
behavioural questions. According to him, question checklist P-8 is structured but, since  
unplanned sub-questions were sometimes added for certain candidates, he considered  
Gaz Métro’s interview to be semi-structured.278 In his opinion, interviews that were not  
very structured were frequent in 1995 but, when interviewers properly mastered the type  
of interview they conducted, their good judgment remedied the lack of structure.  
[243] According to expert Pettersen, certain types of questions are preferable, for  
example, behavioural questions or questions dealing with training and experience,  
because they are generally more structured and geared to the job.279 As for questions  
about the candidates’ interests and opinions, and questions eliciting self-evaluations,  
they are more debatable because they are likely to introduce a degree of social  
desirability. Used with caution, those questions, which are widespread, are nevertheless  
acceptable.  
[244] In this case, he believed Gaz Métro’s interview was classic and contained  
questions on training and experience, as well as on interests, objectives and  
aspirations, questions eliciting self-evaluation, questions on opinions and attitudes, and  
behavioural questions.280 He considered questions 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 to be  
behavioural. However, he emphasized that it is generally recommended that follow-up  
questions be planned.281 He indicated in that regard that, although such questions were  
not included in checklist P-8, they were actually asked, in an unstructured manner. He  
also shared Ms. Jeanrie’s opinion that the absence of an evaluation checklist linking the  
questions to the expected responses reflected deficient standardization.282 In his  
testimony, Mr. Pettersen more specifically ranked the interview in this case in the next-  
to-last position on a structure scale of 1 to 4, because the sub-questions were not  
predetermined and the evaluation was general.283  
[245] From the reports and testimony of experts Jeanrie, Boulard and Pettersen, the  
Tribunal finds that Gaz Métro’s interviews had little structure and that the lack of  
structure was very likely to affect their quality and predictive value. After determining the  
nature of the interview in this case, I must analyse more specifically the quality criteria  
of an interview, i.e. its relevance, validity and weighting.  
277 P-43, supra note 10 at 29-33.  
278 D-74, supra note 17 at 40.  
279 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 190.  
280 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 189.  
281 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 191-192.  
282 A-19, supra note 18 at 31-33 and 37.  
283 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 48.  
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Validity of the interview  
[246] The Tribunal would like to point out that, according to the experts, an interview is  
valid if it has no shortcomings in terms of design, standardization or administration. For  
example, subjectivity and errors can mar the validity of that selection stage.  
[247] In this case, the reasons that the design, standardization and administration of  
the interview were found to be deficient were explained in the preceding pages. Let it  
suffice here to go over certain elements briefly. First, the favourable or unfavourable  
comments on the candidates’ evaluation sheets were chosen by Sylvie Richard and  
introduced subjectivity into the evaluation, just as the [TRANSLATION] “social  
desirability” questions were. Second, the rating of [TRANSLATION] “rejected”, “B”, “A”  
or “A+” attributed by Sylvie Richard to each candidate according to her impression was  
a source of systematic error. Hence, the candidates’ responses to the questions asked,  
particularly question 6, but also question 7, were evaluated in either a discretionary  
manner or strictly according to the [TRANSLATION] “good responses” expected. Sylvie  
Richard admitted in her testimony that a candidate who responded to question 7“Tell  
me about a situation you found stressful”by saying that she found it stressful to be  
late in the morning in taking her children to school did not give the type of response  
expected.284 According to Ms. Richard, if a woman considered such a situation stressful,  
she would not be able to deal with the stressconsidered greaterinherent in the  
position of network operator. That is a very subjective opinion, on the basis of which the  
candidates were, however, likely to be more or less severely penalized.  
[248] In addition, the questions themselves varied from one candidate to another. The  
technical questions that Joan Dupont was asked particularly concerned plumbing,  
whereas those that Nicole Trudel and Marie-Claude Côté were asked mainly concerned  
electricity. Line Beaudoin had to respond to a simulation of emergency operations in the  
event of an explosion, when, in fact, how to deal with that type of situation was taught  
only after a year of internal training.  
[249] According to expert Pettersen, the lack of standardization is not detrimental to  
the validity of the interview, but only means that [TRANSLATION] “it can fluctuate. If the  
interviewers are not sexist, that should not play against [the candidates]”.285 But since it  
would be a very thorny matter indeed to try to determine whether the interviewersin  
this case, Sylvie Richard and Jean-Pierre Raymondwere or were not sexist, it is  
undeniable that greater standardization of the interview would have ensured more  
objectivity.  
284 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 115.  
285 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 195.  
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[250] Bear in mind that the note-taking was also seriously deficient. Expert Jeanrie  
believed that the form of evaluation checklist P-47 tainted the validity of the interview.286  
The comments noted on P-47 about the victims in this case do not make it possible to  
arrive at a valid conclusion:  
[TRANSLATION]  
There is no way to determine in advance why [the responses to] questions like  
that were noted and, here again, once information not part of what is sought is  
noted, an error slips into the judgment to be made because importance is given  
to information not sought.287  
[251] It is also troubling that, because of a [TRANSLATION] “hesitation about the  
profile”,288 a number of candidates were withdrawn from the selection process  
retroactively after being invited to take the examinations289 and some had even already  
passed the theoretical examination and, in a number of cases, the practical  
examination. Ms. Richard admitted that the retroactive withdrawal was subjective.290 In  
her report, expert Jeanrie explained that the retroactive elimination procedure  
demonstrated the preponderant role given the interview, or rather the [TRANSLATION]  
“profile” evaluated in the interview, whereas the interview left much room for  
subjectivity.291  
[252] In short, the evidence as a whole clearly shows the many obstacles to the validity  
of the interview and the great subjectivity of its design and administration.  
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Relevance of the interview  
[253] The interview meets the criterion of relevance if the questions are geared toward  
measuring knowledge, skills, aptitudes and qualifications related to the work or training  
of a network operator. As expert Boulard summed it up: [TRANSLATION] “[we do not  
have] the right, in an interview that is part of a selection process, to have questions or  
content unrelated to the job”.292  
[254] First, even before the connection between what the interview measures and what  
is required for the position of network operator is examined, those requirements  
themselves must be relevant. In that regard, the Tribunal will reiterate its conclusions  
about the job description and job profile. It has been established that there was no  
document such as a job description for the position of network operator at the time of  
the facts at issue and that, therefore, job profile P-3, which gave the requirements for  
the position, was not appropriate, considering that its requirements were not related to  
286 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 69.  
287 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 28-29.  
288 P-6: document on the July 1995 recruitment; Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006  
at 91-95.  
289 A-19, supra note 18 at 46.  
290 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 94.  
291 P-43, supra note 10 at 33.  
292 François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 38.  
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the position, especially in terms of the personal qualities.293 The relevance per se of the  
qualifications sought is therefore in doubt. Since the interview was based on false  
premises, it could not readily measure the elements essential to the job.  
[255] Second, the Tribunal nevertheless will examine the connection between the  
interview and the job, assuming this time that the related duties and requirements were  
justified. According to expert Jeanrie, demonstration of such a link implies a comparison  
and a correlation between the qualifications measured and the qualifications required to  
hold the position and undergo the internal training. In her testimony, Sylvie Richard tried  
to establish the connections between the questions or the themes underlying the  
questions, and the elements sought, which Gaz Métro wanted to measure. Since Ms.  
Richard was the architect of the interview, in terms of both its design and administration,  
no witness was better placed to give an opinion on that matter.  
[256] However, the Tribunal notes myriad differences between her testimony of March  
15, 2005 and her testimony on February 9 and 17, 2006. On March 15, 2005, Ms.  
Richard explained that the strengths and weaknesses noted on evaluation checklists P-  
68 were related to the job. Questioned on the subject, she spontaneously established  
connections between the interview questions and the profile elements sought. To do so,  
she used glossary D-57, which defines the skills sought for the job. However, it was  
adduced in evidence that the document belonged to her colleague François Messier  
and that she herself never used it. In February 2006, she seemed to find it more difficult  
to make the same connections.294 Be that as it may, Ms. Richard’s testimony  
demonstrated that several groups of questions apparently served to measure the same  
characteristics.  
[257] Noting that certain evaluation sheets P-68 contained an indication concerning the  
candidate’s capacity to perform in the position of network operator, although that  
capacity was not measured in the interview, expert Jeanrie wondered about the lack of  
objectivity leading to that indication. In addition, many subjective elements, such as  
qualities/shortcomings on evaluation sheets P-68, were not required for the job and  
were also not found in the questions asked or inspired by them.  
[258] Ms. Jeanrie tried at the hearing to conduct the exercise herself, i.e. to connect  
the themes and the questions in checklist P-8 with the elements noted on evaluation  
sheets P-68. For example, on Marie-Claude Côté’s sheet, Ms. Jeanrie found the  
responses to seven of the questions asked; that does not cover all the questions related  
to the job profile.295 She doubted that the interview was exhaustive and noted that the  
qualities evaluated did not correspond to those required. In her opinion, questions  
[TRANSLATION] “overshot the mark” and did not justify the written comments on the  
293 See sections 3.2.1.1 and 3.2.1.2 supra for an analysis of these issues.  
294 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 131 et seq.; stenographic notes, February 17,  
2006 at 114-125.  
295 P-43, supra note 10 at 27-30.  
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sheets.296 Ms. Jeanrie wondered about the questions for which no response appeared  
on the evaluation checklist and concluded that was a shortcoming in the standardization  
of the interview:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Was it because no notes were taken for those responses or was it because the  
questions were not asked? It is impossible to say. But that leaves the possibility  
that the questions were not asked, in which case, the situation definitely was one  
of non-standardization, which, in an interview, is a source of significant error.297  
[259] Expert Jeanrie also noted that the themes broached in the interview were not  
restricted so as to correlate with the job requirements, a situation likely to confuse the  
interviewers. According to her, for the interview process as a whole, the correlation  
between the profile sought and the responses collected was inadequate.298  
[260] In the opinion of expert Pettersen, only the critical and frequent elements were  
representative of the employment and relevant to the interview.299 That said, he felt that  
the interview questions were indeed linked to the job. As to whether they measured  
essential elements of the position of network operator, he believed that it was up to Gaz  
Métro to decide.300 He added that an interview cannot be absolutely perfect and that,  
although the questions in this case were no doubt not the best ones possible, they were  
still highly relevant.301  
[261] Furthermore, he disagreed with expert Jeanrie’s statement that the qualities  
sought were related more to a white-collar position than to a blue-collar one. For that  
issue, he relied on the people in charge at Gaz Métro, who knew the position well and  
were therefore able, in his opinion, to judge the relevance of requiring those qualities.302  
He also explained that interests in themselves are not such poor predictors. Rather,  
according to him, inventories of interests are to be avoided. However, Gaz Métro did not  
use such inventories, but measured interests through the interview, which is entirely  
proper.303  
[262] Expert Boulard felt that the interview definitely had a number of shortcomings,  
but that it was still relevant, and that Mr. Pettersen was in the best position to measure  
the impact of the shortcomings.304 But Mr. Pettersen relied on Gaz Métro’s wisdom.  
296 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 12-18.  
297 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 30.  
298 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 29.  
299 See in particular Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 224-225 and 245-  
246.  
300 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 15, 2006 at 245-249.  
301 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 193; September 15, 2006 at 197-  
198.  
302 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 38-40.  
303 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 51-53.  
304 D-74, supra note 17 at 50-51.  
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[263] In short, evaluation of relevance does not consist solely in associating, as Gaz  
Métro did, two words or combinations of words that are part of the duties, requirements  
and selection stages. In this case, although certain links existed between the content of  
the questions and the elements of the job profile, they were insufficient.  
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Weighting of the interview  
[264] As previously defined, the criterion of weighting of the interview concerns the  
relative weight to give each qualification. Concretely, it is a matter of objectively  
determining what value should be given to a given qualification or quality according to  
whether it is very or hardly essential and frequent in the position of network operator.  
The weighting must be applied to various elements measured in the interview, whether  
they are considered separately or grouped by theme. Second, weighting also implies an  
interrelation between the different stages in the selection process. For example, a  
different value can be attributed to the interview, the theoretical examination and the  
practical examination, according to what they each respectively evaluate.  
[265] It is not contested that Gaz Métro did not attribute beforehand a point to each  
question or a value to different types of responses to each question, so as to adequately  
measure the most important characteristics. It is also obvious that, since a candidate  
could be eliminated at each selection stage, the stages were not weighted with respect  
to one another.  
[266] For expert Pettersen, the absence of weighting of the questions in the interview  
posed no problem. In any case, it is rare for interview questions to be weighted, except  
in the case of a situational or behavioural interview.305  
[267] Expert Chantale Jeanrie explained that technical qualifications contribute much  
more to a network operator’s duties. Therefore, she believed that the number of  
personal qualities mentioned in the job profile and examined in the interview was  
excessive and introduced a high degree of subjectivity into the process.306 In Line  
Beaudoin’s and Marie-Claude Côté’s interviews, the qualities evaluated were not those  
sought.307  
[268] When characteristics other than those sought are noted, they are given  
importance and are elements not measured in other candidates. Taking different  
qualities into consideration or eliminating relevant qualities demonstrates the subjectivity  
that permeates the interview and makes it impossible to weight the questions by theme.  
[269] So according to the experts’ opinions, the predictive qualities measured in the  
interview are considerably reduced if adequate weighting is not done. In this case, Gaz  
Métro’s interview was not weighted, which helped to attribute a disproportionately  
305 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 205.  
306 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 59-61.  
307 See P-68: bundle of evaluation sheetsGaz Métro employment applications.  
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preponderant value to the notion of [TRANSLATION] “profile”, which itself was neither  
weighted nor adequately defined.  
3.3.3.5 Conclusions regarding the pre-interview  
[270] The pre-interview did not make it possible to fairly evaluate the candidates, who  
did not all undergo the same process under the same conditions, since they were not  
asked the same questions and their responses were not evaluated the same way. Merit  
evaluation requires that the qualifications of candidates be measured by standardized  
means that limit subjectivity. If the criteria of validity, relevance and weighting proper to  
a quality interview were not respected, it must be concluded that the interviews  
conducted by Gaz Métro had no significant predictive value. Hence, certain candidates  
were eliminated at the interview stage without regard to their actual qualifications. That  
said, it is not up to the Tribunal to specifically suggest what Gaz Métro’s interview  
process should have been. The Tribunal analyses the practices related to the interview  
and exposes the interview’s shortcomings solely because that is the only way to  
determine whether that selection instrument had discriminatory effects on the women or  
not.  
[271] The experts, mainly Chantale Jeanrie, Normand Pettersen and Louis  
Laurencelle, tried to prove through statistics whether there were or were not  
discriminatory biases.  
[272] Expert Jeanrie used the so-called “four-fifths rule” of the American statistical  
method drawn from the Uniform Guidelines on Employee Selection Procedures.308  
According to that rule, there is a discriminatory effect when the ratio of the success rate  
of the disadvantaged groupwomenis 80% below the success rate of the majority  
groupmen.309  
[273] Expert Pettersen disapproved of that method and added that it must not be  
interpreted rigidly and absolutely, and was not a recognized professional standard in  
psychometrics.310 He also criticized expert Jeanrie for combining samples that could not  
be compared, in order to obtain a larger sample.311 He admitted, however, that he did  
not know whether Ms. Jeanrie had made adjustments allowing the samples to be  
adequately compared.  
[274] Use of the four-fifths rule was particularly criticized by expert Laurencelle, who  
was not aware of it before the hearing since it is not used in statistics. He considered  
the method less rigorous and honest than a statistical test.312 Furthermore, he noted  
308 D-86: Uniform Guidelines on Employee Selection Procedures (1978).  
309 P-43, supra note 10 at 3; Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 21 et seq.  
310 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 12, 2006 at 208-209 and 260-261; Normand  
Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 21.  
311 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 9.  
312 Louis Laurencelle, stenographic notes, December 8, 2006 at 136-137.  
 
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that Ms. Jeanrie did a certain calculation in statistics improperly and he made the  
appropriate corrections.313 He believed that Ms. Jeanrie wrongly used the term  
[TRANSLATION] “adverse impact”, which she related to discrimination, whereas the  
term [TRANSLATION] “bias” was more appropriate in statistics.314  
[275] Referring to the work done by Mr. Pettersen, expert Laurencelle said that his  
treatment of the data was generally adequate despite a few calculation errors and that,  
if the data were accurate, the results arrived at were correct. Correcting Mr. Pettersen’s  
calculations according to another statistical hypothesis test, Mr. Laurencelle established  
that there was no bias whatsoever.  
[276] Expert Laurencelle also reviewed the analyses and conclusions of experts  
Jeanrie and Pettersen, and made the necessary corrections. According to him, the  
basic proposition underlying the search for bias is that the context is [TRANSLATION]  
“honest”, i.e. that [TRANSLATION] “the candidacies of the men and women were  
spontaneous, that relatively more competent men (or women) were not pre-selected  
and that, a priori, each candidate, regardless of sex, had an equal chance to qualify”.315  
[277] However, when informed, in cross-examination, of the requirement that the  
candidate have a class 3 driver’s licence and of the numberextremely unequalof  
men and women who held it, he felt that the analysis changed:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Q If I told you that there were eight hundred sixty-five (865) women for ninety-  
seven thousand seven hundred thirty-three (97 733) men …  
A Um-hum.  
Q ... who hold a class 3 driver’s permit, that that was a requirement for applying  
for the position, do you agree that the recruitment pool was disproportionate?  
A Well, if the recruitment pool was defined by those criteria, that is certainly not  
comparable.316  
[278] In short, experts Jeanrie and Pettersen had more or less the same mandate, i.e.  
to analyse the selection process from the standpoint of psychometrics and personnel  
selection, and interpret the failure rate for women in the process for the years at issue.  
[279] As regards Ms. Jeanrie, whose expertise is more in qualitative evaluation, the  
Tribunal believes that, despite her assurance in testifying, the observations on which  
she based her testimony from a statistical standpoint were not of great scientific  
accuracy. The quantitative methodology she used, namely, the four-fifths rule, was not  
convincing, given particularly that it is an American rule not accepted in Québec  
313 Louis Laurencelle, stenographic notes, December 8, 2006 at 172-173.  
314 Louis Laurencelle, stenographic notes, December 8, 2006 at 71-73.  
315 D-93B, supra note 19 at 1.  
316 Louis Laurencelle, stenographic notes, December 12, 2006 at 62.  
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statistics. Furthermore, Ms. Jeanrie grouped the data from the competitions of 1995,  
1996 and 1997 in order to increase the size of her sample, instead of analysing them  
separately, for which expert Laurencelle in fact criticized her.317 The Tribunal concludes  
that there was a certain lack of rigour in her quantitative analysis of the selection  
process and it therefore views her conclusions in that area with caution.  
[280] As for expert Pettersen, who specializes in the quantitative approach, he did not  
clearly present the different reasoning that led him to conclude there was an absence of  
bias and therefore did not really enlighten the Tribunal. In his testimony, he retracted  
and contradicted his statements several times, not to mention that his comments  
sometimes exceeded the limits of his competence, particularly regarding discrimination.  
The Tribunal is therefore reluctant to base its conclusions on that expert’s results.  
[281] Of the three experts, Mr. Laurencelle was most competent and had the greatest  
expertise in statistics. He corrected, without much difficulty, the errors made by  
Chantale Jeanrie and Normand Pettersen, and explained them well. His testimony was  
clear, precise and articulate, and he did not hesitate to acknowledge, where required,  
the limits of his expertise and mandate. The Tribunal therefore gives greater credibility  
to his testimony. It particularly notes from it that the pool studiedthe samplewas too  
limited for the analyses to be conclusive. Expert Laurencelle concluded his report as  
follows:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[J]udging bias in the whole of the data considered must, above all, be based on a  
detailed examination of the cohorts and of the selection stages each underwent.  
The largely arbitrary nature of the comprehensive indices (in weighted and  
unweighted average modes) and the presence of [TRANSLATION] “paradoxical”  
effects provide a foundation that lends little credibility to the judgment.318  
[282] Even if the sample had been larger and had fostered more conclusive results, the  
many changes made to the data produced by Gaz Métro in terms of the selection  
process weaken the conclusions that could be drawn in the case from the statistical  
evidence.  
[283] Furthermore, keep in mind Radek,319 in which the British Columbia Human  
Rights Tribunal handed down a decision concluding that a system was discriminatory,  
but did not base the decision on statistical evidence and indicated that such evidence,  
although useful and reliable, is not essential to proving systemic discrimination.  
[284] Hence, the Tribunal bases its conclusions on the qualitative rather than the  
quantitative analysis of the interview. In this case, the evidence and analyses of the  
experts showed that the interview was poorly designed, poorly standardized and poorly  
administered. In the opinion of many, those shortcomings were detrimental to the  
317 Louis Laurencelle, stenographic notes, December 8, 2006 at 222.  
318 D-93B, supra note 19 at 4.  
319 Radek, supra note 59.  
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candidates because they allowed long-standing biases against women to creep into the  
interview process. One need only think of the evaluation of personal qualities and the  
treatment given work experience in a non-traditional environment. The analysis of the  
interview process and of the personal experience of each victim shows that the process  
was largely coloured by the bias according to which women are unfit to hold such  
positions as network operator that are traditionally reserved for men. Considering that,  
the value given the experience of some of the victims was negligible.  
[285] It was not Gaz Métro’s use of an interview as a selection tool that was  
problematic in and of itself, but rather the fact that the tool, as designed, conveyed  
stereotypes about women in non-traditional environments. Because of that, the  
interview was a breeding ground for discrimination based on sex, considering above all  
its lack of structure and of standardization.  
[286] What is more, having noted as of 1996 that the measure was not yielding the  
anticipated results,320 Gaz Métro ceased using the pre-interview without, however,  
further questioning the causes of its mitigated success.  
[287] The preliminary nature of the interview for women only, which resulted in the  
premature elimination of some of them, coupled with the discretionary evaluation of their  
performance, additional requirements not imposed on men and the retroactive  
withdrawal of female candidates from the selection process on the basis of a  
[TRANSLATION] “hesitation about the profile”—that whole system contributed to the  
disproportionate exclusion of the women from the position of network operator. So we  
have here elements that, added together, reinforced one another until they had a real  
exclusionary effect on women. That situation was undeniably related to sex. Therefore,  
the disproportionately exclusionary effect was discriminatory for women.  
[288] Gaz Métro contended that, even if the Tribunal concluded that the interview was  
discriminatory, the discrimination was justified, according to the requirements set forth in  
Meiorin. Hence, I should apply the first stage of the test established by the Supreme  
Court and, to that end, determine whether the pre-interview and its questions were  
rationally connected to the objective of recruiting more qualified women for the position  
of network operator.  
[289] Gaz Métro’s witnesses, mainly Jean-Pierre Raymond and Sylvie Richard,  
justified shifting the interview in 1995 to before the examinations by the wish to better  
know more about the women interested in holding the position of network operator and  
by the determination to provide them with the opportunity to demonstrate their  
capacities. Both witnesses considered that the personal qualities required were relevant  
to the duties of network operator and that their evaluation in each candidate was  
justified.  
320 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 192-193; Jean-Pierre Raymond,  
stenographic notes, January 27, 2006 at 66-67.  
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[290] In the Tribunal’s opinion, given the known context of under-representation of  
women in the position of network operator at Gaz Métro and considering the avowed  
goal of the company to hire women on a priority basis, the very decision to subject the  
candidates to a pre-interview, a stage at which they could be eliminated, is difficult to  
justify. It is hard to understand how the addition of a preliminary disqualifying stage  
applicable solely to the very group that the company apparently sought to encourage to  
apply could mean that more members of the group would be hired. In addition, if the  
intrinsic process of the interview and its questions are examined more specifically, it is  
even more obvious that the interview was not rationally connected to the objective of  
hiring women on a priority basis. Let me mention, for example, the inaccurate and highly  
subjective evaluation of the women’s non-traditional experience, qualifications,  
conception of integration into a male environment and vision of what constitutes a  
stressful situation, the evaluation having been carried out so as to exclude the women  
who did not respond in the only [TRANSLATION] “good” way wanted.  
[291] Concluding that the interview was not rationally connected to the objective  
pursued, the Tribunal does not believe it is necessary to pursue the analysis of the  
second stage of Meiorin, namely, the defence of undue hardship stemming from the  
accommodation measures sought. Therefore, the interview as a selection stage was  
discriminatory and was not justified given the criteria defined in Meiorin.  
3.3.4 Theoretical examination  
3.3.4.1 Procedure for the theoretical examination  
[292] Once the interview stage was successfully completed, the candidates then took  
the theoretical examination, a written examination divided into several sections covering  
general knowledge, mathematics, logic, mechanics, physics and electricity.321 It was  
prepared in 1992 by Robert Bédard, Serge Charbonneau, Boris Sauvé and Jean-Pierre  
Raymond on the basis of questions used by Gaz Métro since 1982.322  
[293] In his testimony, Robert Bédard explained that the [TRANSLATION]  
“measurement and evaluation” part of his work accounted for roughly 10% of his duties  
and he admitted that he was not an expert in the subject.323 He took courses in  
education in the workplace but did not complete his certificate.324  
[294] Mr. Bédard said he made changes to about 20% of the examination for each  
recruitment in order to offset possible leaks.325 Gaz Métro no longer has the exact  
321 P-9: qualification examinations network maintenance trainees, and D-32: results provided by Mr.  
Bédard and Mr. Aubé.  
322 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 240-241.  
323 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 83.  
324 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 153-154.  
325 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 281.  
   
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version of the examination used in June 1995, although subsequent versions (P-9A and  
P-9B) are very similar to it.326  
[295] Mr. Bédard also explained that, in 1997, the number of questions was increased  
without the total weighting of the examination being increased, so as to give the  
candidates an advantage.327 He considered the written examination to be a work in  
progress.328 However, it seems that the correction key was not systematically adapted  
so as to be consistent with the updated examination. Furthermore, although two  
questions were cancelled after the candidates took the theoretical examination in July  
1995,329 it appears that some markers nevertheless graded them. Shirley Thomas  
obtained 7/10 on question 39,330 which was not supposed to be graded. Since the  
points for that wrongly graded question were not included in the total mark,331 it cannot  
be assumed that the errors had significant consequences.  
[296] Calculators were prohibited in the examination, although many calculations  
involved fractions and decimals,332 whereas the use of calculators was always allowed  
in Gaz Métro’s internal training.333 What is more, Mr. Bédard mentioned that calculators  
were allowed in theoretical examinations other than that for the position of network  
operator.334  
[297] Another measure put the candidates at a disadvantage: the so-called  
[TRANSLATION] “negative” grading of the examination, according to which the markers  
had to subtract points for incorrect answers. Mr. Bédard said that that type of grading  
was used only for objective questions, so as to offset chance, and accounted for only  
5% to 6% of the examination. Gaz Métro abandoned the negative grading practice in  
1997.  
[298] Some candidates explained that, when they were called to sit the theoretical  
examination, they were advised to review their mathematical knowledge beforehand.335  
It is appropriate to question the reason for Gaz Métro’s recommendation. Did the  
company believe that the candidates did not have sufficient theoretical knowledge in the  
subject to pass the examination or did it want to warn them that the examination was at  
a level above Secondary V knowledge?  
326 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 91-101; stenographic notes, January 18,  
2006 at 165-168.  
327 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 54-56.  
328 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 105-106.  
329 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 51-53.  
330 P-69: admission examinations for employment with Gaz Métro.  
331 D-32.1: Mr. Bédard’s results.  
332 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 68; stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at  
30-31.  
333 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 30.  
334 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 34-35 and 190-191.  
335 See in particular Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 15; Johanne Bolduc,  
stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 42.  
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[299] Johanne Bolduc testified that, about a week after the interview, Sylvie Richard  
called her to inform her that she was considered to [TRANSLATION] “have the profile”  
and could take the written examination. Ms. Bolduc admitted finding the examination  
difficult, especially the calculation of decimals and fractions to be done without a  
calculator.336 She failed the examination. Ms. Richard informed her at the time that her  
main weaknesses seemed to be in electricity and she advised her to study that subject  
before taking the written examination again. Ms. Bolduc had a diploma of secondary  
studies in technical drafting and a diploma of college studies in civil engineering.337 She  
therefore reviewed her secondary school course notes and her Cegep course notes in  
electricity, as well as in physics and mathematics. She took the examination again in  
1996, and failed it again. On her third try, in 1997, she passed it, without having taken  
additional courses since 1995.  
[300] Nicole Trudel has a diploma of vocational studies (DVS) in the driving of heavy  
vehicles. During her training, she particularly took courses in mechanics. She too failed  
the written examination in 1995. She tried again in 1997, but without success.338  
[301] Tania Plourde has training in the installation of electrical power lines. She failed  
the theoretical examination with a grade of 34%. Sylvie Richard told her again, however,  
that she had a good profile for the position of network operator and suggested that she  
take mathematics and physics courses in order to increase her chances of passing the  
next time. Ms. Plourde followed her advice and registered at the Lakeshore/Baldwin-  
Cartier school, where she took courses full time and did very well in them.339 At the  
same time, she obtained her class 2 driver’s licence. In addition, her employment  
insurance officer agreed to extend her benefits so that the costs of the training would be  
covered. She called Sylvie Richard several times to inform her of the steps she was  
taking and her efforts, but Ms. Richard told her each time that it was not possible to take  
the examination again.340  
[302] Shirley Thomas has a diploma of college studies in petrochemistry. In 1995, after  
the pre-interview, she was told that she had the ideal profile for the position of network  
operator and that she was eligible to take the theoretical examination. Her grade was  
52%. She took the examination again in 1996 and obtained the passing grade.  
However, since she failed the practical examination stage, she had to take the written  
examination over in 1997 in order to be reinstated in the selection process. She failed  
on that third try.341  
[303] Marie-Claude Côté has training in the installation of electrical power lines.  
According to Gaz Métro, she had the ideal profile. She failed the theoretical examination  
336 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 40.  
337 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 53.  
338 Nicole Trudel, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 107.  
339 P-18: report card.  
340 Tania Plourde, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 162-173.  
341 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 86, 95-96 and 99.  
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on her first try, in 1995. As in the case of Tania Plourde, Ms. Richard advised Ms. Côté  
to take additional courses in mathematics and physics. She then registered at the  
Lakeshore/Baldwin-Cartier school and informed her employment insurance officer about  
her efforts to obtain a position as a network operator at Gaz Métro. That training met  
with success.342 In 1996, she failed the written examination a second time. She finally  
passed it in 1997, on her third try.343 In her case, it was later, at the medical examination  
stage, that her selection was thwarted.344  
[304] According to expert Pettersen’s report, 78% of the women and 72% of the men  
failed the theoretical examination in the recruitment competitions of 1995 to 1997.345  
The Tribunal cannot help but be surprised by such a high rate of failure on an  
examination that was supposed to measure basic Secondary V knowledge, whereas  
those who took the examination all had that diploma and, in some cases, even more  
advanced training.  
3.3.4.2 Evaluation of the theoretical examination  
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Validity of the theoretical examination  
[305] The validity of a selection test, as I mentioned earlier, depends on its design,  
standardization and administration. The theoretical examination was designed by  
Robert Bédard and Serge Charbonneau, and during the period at issue, Gaz Métro  
never had it validated by experts outside the company. It seems that the instructions  
given to markersor their understanding of themwas sometimes deficient in that  
some examination questions were marked when they should not have been, as Mr.  
Bédard had decided to cancel them.  
[306] Furthermore, certain errors were found in the questions themselves and in the  
correction key for the written test. For example, in question 17, an illustration shows an  
object weighing 380 kilograms, whereas the question says that the object weighs 360  
kilograms,346 which can easily mislead candidates. Informed of that irregularity during  
his cross-examination, Robert Bédard said there was indeed an error, but if candidates  
systematically had given either of the correct responses possibleaccording to the  
basic premise chosen, either 360 or 380 kilogramshe would have investigated and  
noted the source of the problem.347  
342 P-14: adult education report card of Marie-Claude Côté (1995-1996).  
343 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 16-20, 38-39 and 45-47.  
344 See section 3.3.6.  
345 P-84: personal notes of Normand Pettersen at 46.  
346 P-9A: qualification examination Version B network maintenance trainee parts 1 and 2 (1995) at  
10.  
347 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 105-106.  
 
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[307] Question 7348 also poses a problem because the expected response is, in fact,  
not the correct one.349  
[308] The Tribunal also notes certain disparities in the marking of the same questions.  
For example, on the 1996 and 1997 exam papers of Danielle Varin, the grade for the  
first question differs from one paper to the other, whereas the responses are almost  
identical. That question required the candidate to define in a few words the functions of  
the 10 listed parts of a motor-driven vehicle.350 In the 1996, Ms. Varin described the  
function of the transmission as follows: [TRANSLATION] “gives power to the wheel”. In  
the 1997 examination, she wrote: [TRANSLATION] “makes the wheels turn”. Her  
response was deemed acceptable in 1996 but not in 1997. Conversely, in 1996 she  
responded that a battery serves as an [TRANSLATION] “energy-storage reservoir” and  
she did not receive the corresponding points, whereas in 1997, her response was  
[TRANSLATION] “stores energy”, which was considered a good response.351 The  
Tribunal noted those anomalies by simply skimming the material and went no further in  
its comparisons. However, those very simple flaws, which alone are perhaps not  
disastrous, still cast doubt over the validity of the marking of the examinations and,  
therefore, over the candidates’ results in that stage.  
[309] Considering those observations, the validity of the theoretical examination is  
uncertain.  
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Relevance of the theoretical examination  
[310] The relevance of the written examination is established by demonstrating that it  
measures the knowledge and aptitudes required for the job or training. Here is where  
the correlation between the requirement of Secondary V and the examination questions,  
as well as the Commission’s claim that the examination was at a level higher than  
secondary studies, will be examined.  
[311] In 1997, Gaz Métro gave Lucien Aubé, professor at the department of education  
sciences at the Université du Québec à Montréal, a mandate to review the hiring  
practices and tools, and to comment on the results of the examinations given in 1995.  
Yves Ste-Marie teaches physical sciences and chemistry in secondary school. Mr. Aubé  
asked Mr. Ste-Marie for his thoughts on the Gaz Métro qualification examinations, and  
based his report for Gaz Métro on Mr. Ste-Marie’s responses.  
[312] In his comments for Mr. Aubé, Mr. Ste-Marie wrote that Gaz Métro should allow  
the use of a calculator and provide a list of useful formulas, since secondary school  
students are entitled to them. He also pointed out the questions for which a calculator  
and the formulas would have been particularly necessary. He commented on each  
348 P-9B: qualification examination Version A-2 network maintenance trainee parts 1 and 2  
(February 1997).  
349 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 111-113.  
350 P-9B, supra note 348.  
351 P-69, supra note 330.  
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question, pointed out in some cases that the response in the correction key was  
incorrect, suggested changes, noted the questions that were too hard and identified  
those above a basic Secondary V level.352 According to his testimony, some questions  
refer to notions learned in Cegep or to long out-of date education programs. He  
indicated the questions that, in his opinion, should have been withdrawn and those that  
should simply have been better written. He concluded the following:  
[TRANSLATION]  
After commenting on each question and dissecting the examination to a certain  
extent, I believe that the problem lies in the fact that it is difficult to give such an  
examination to a heterogeneous group of people with very different educational  
backgrounds.353  
[313] In his analysis of the relevance of the theoretical examination, Mr. Aubé  
concluded that, to be able to answer the examination questions, one must have a  
Secondary V diploma including a full science program, which he called a  
[TRANSLATION] “strong Secondary V”.354 According to him, the examination was at the  
limit of the skills taught in Secondary V. He proceeded in the same way as Mr. Ste-  
Marie and commented on the examination questions, in addition to giving each one a  
difficulty rating and a discrimination rating. His observations matched those of Mr. Ste-  
Marie as regards the use of a calculator, the formulas to be provided, the errors in the  
correction key and the excessively high level of the examination. He nevertheless  
concluded that the examination had no bias and gave all candidates an equal  
opportunity to pass.  
[314] On the basis of Mr. Aubé’s and Mr. Ste-Marie’s observations, certain questions  
on the written examination seemed to place at a disadvantage young candidates and  
those who had studied recently. In particular, imperial measures were used, whereas  
metric measures had been used in the school system for over ten years at the time of  
the facts at issue. In addition, one question implied knowledge of a 1981 motor  
carburetor. In fact, if we add up their comments about questions that were improperly  
formulated, incomprehensible or at a level above Secondary V, out of the 40 original  
questions, only a few were acceptable and appropriate.  
[315] The various experts heard by the Tribunal stated that only basic knowledge in  
electricity, mechanics, mathematics, physics and logic was required in order to pass the  
theoretical examination. Those experts, be they Ms. Jeanrie or Messrs. Boulard or  
Pettersen, did not themselves verify the accuracy of that statement, but referred to what  
Mr. Bédard told them.355 Moreover, experts Jeanrie and Pettersen stressed that they  
could not conclude the theoretical examination was relevant to the job and training.356  
352 A-8, supra note 175.  
353 A-8, supra note 175 at 8.  
354 D-14, supra note 175 at 2.  
355 See in particular Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 111.  
356 A-19, supra note 18 at 25; P-43 at 25.  
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[316] In short, the relevance of the theoretical examination was compromised because  
it was at a level above Secondary V, whereas the employment of network operator was  
an entry-level position, and because Gaz Métro did not subject the examination to  
criterion-related validation. That validation consists in verifying, once an employee has  
held the position of network operator for a certain period of time, whether the  
employee’s results on the theoretical examination adequately predicted his or her on-  
the-job performance. Since Gaz Métro did not carry out that validation, it is difficult for  
the company to say that the examination was relevant in term of the duties to be  
performed in the job, especially considering the importance of the internal training that  
enabled trainees to obtain the position of network operator.  
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Weighting of the theoretical examination  
[317] Expert witness Chantale Jeanrie remarked that the questions were not attributed  
the same number of points. She believed that it is generally more prudent to weight the  
questions and sections of the examination equally, unless different weighting is justified.  
She admitted she did not know whether such justification existed in this case, but she  
explained that, if not, the Gaz Métro’s weighting was a source of error concerning the  
skills to be measured.357  
[318] As I alluded to earlier,358 weighting also means, on a broader scale, that the  
importance and weight of one stage in the selection process compared with another are  
put into perspective, which Gaz Métro did not do in this case since candidates could be  
eliminated at each stage.  
[319] Accordingly, the weighting of the theoretical examination was inadequate.  
3.3.4.3. Bennett test  
[320] Some questions were taken from a mechanical aptitude test known as the  
Bennett test.359 In fact, roughly 15% of the questions in the theoretical examination  
given by Gaz Métro were from that test.360 The test places women at a disadvantage  
and they do not do as well on it. A warning to that effect is found in the test manual:  
The differences were not only statistically significant, but of such size as to have  
practical meaning. Moreover, the differences between the means of the sexes  
increased as grade level increased. Thus, when using the BMCT [Bennett  
Mechanical Comprehension Test] one should expect differences between the  
scores of male and female groups. … With expected differences in test scores  
due to the sex of the examinee, use of BMCT combined group norms in selection  
decisions may exacerbate adverse impact on females.361  
357 P-43, supra note 10 at 22-23.  
358 See section 3.3.3.4 supra for the explanations.  
359 A-17: Bennett Mechanical Comprehension Test.  
360 A-19, supra note 18 at 25.  
361 A-17, supra note 359 at 30.  
 
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[321] In 1984, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, in the ruling in the AFT case,362  
which was later upheld by the Supreme Court,363 put the relevance of the Bennett test  
into perspective. Let me cite here the following passage:  
However, this does not mean that the Bennett test is never appropriate. … Thus  
it appears that the Bennett test measures either abilities that are much higher  
than what is required for unskilled entry-level jobs at Canadian National, or  
knowledge that can be acquired on the job. The job tasks performed have never  
been clearly defined in the past, so it has not been possible to validate the  
Bennett test.  
The method indicated by the experts for validating this test is called “criterion-  
related validity,” which verifies the correspondence between the score obtained  
on the test and the employee’s performance on the job once he has become  
accustomed to it. …  
CN has never validated its test. ... To determine whether the Bennett test is valid  
for a particular job, it would first be necessary to carry out a job analysis. …  
In conclusion, we believe that use of the Bennett test for entry-level positions not  
requiring special qualifications constitutes prima facie discrimination and is not  
justifiable on the basis of the requirements of the jobs applied for.364  
[322] Here is the order rendered by the Canadian Tribunal regarding the Bennett test:  
CN shall immediately discontinue the use of the Bennett test for entry-level  
positions other than apprentice positions, and, within one year of the time of this  
decision and for the same positions, shall discontinue all mechanical aptitude  
tests that have a negative impact on women and are not warranted by the  
aptitude requirements of the positions being applied for.365  
[323] According to expert Jeanrie, there are too few studies of the Bennett test to  
determine whether the differences in the results observed between men and women  
stem from a bias or from a normal representation of their respective qualifications.  
However, mere proof of those differences justifies, in her opinion, assessing the merits  
of the test’s use. She added that the interpretation of such a test requires at least that  
the evaluator be trained to some extent in interpreting psychometric tests, which did not  
seem to be the case here.366  
[324] As for expert Pettersen, he admitted that women’s results are not as good as  
men’s on the Bennett test. In his opinion, the differences do not represent a bias since  
women generally have less mechanical and spatial aptitude than men, and mechanical  
362 The AFT case, supra note 35.  
363 Action travail des Femmes, supra note 27.  
364 The AFT case, supra note 35, paras. 19883-19885 and 19888; emphasis added.  
365 Ibid. at para. 20030.  
366 P-43, supra note 10 at 26.  
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aptitude measured by the questions on the Bennett test is required for employment as a  
network operator.367  
[325] Expert Boulard felt that the use of the Bennett test posed no problem since its  
content had already been validated and it measured the mechanical aptitude required  
for the position of network operator.368  
[326] Questioned about the Bennett test, Mr. Aubé said that the candidates with  
practical mechanical knowledge could respond quite readily to the test questions.369  
[327] In Action Travail des Femmes, Canadian National had used the Bennett test in  
full without demonstrating that it adequately evaluated the qualifications required for the  
job. In the case at bar, although Gaz Métro had taken from the Bennett test questions  
totalling about 15% of the points on the theoretical examination, the number of points  
allocated to the questions was sufficiently significant to decisively affect the final result  
of a female candidate, i.e. her success or failure.  
[328] In this case, five of the seven victims qualified for that stage in the selection  
process.370 Marie-Claude Côté failed twice, in 1995 and 1996, at that stage and passed  
on her third try. Shirley Thomas failed in 1995 and passed the following year but failed  
again in 1997, when she had to take the theoretical examination again in order retake  
the practical examination she had failed in 1996. Johanne Bolduc failed the theoretical  
examination in 1995 and the following year. She passed on her third try, in 1997. Nicole  
Trudel failed twice, in 1995 and 1997, while Tania Plourde failed in 1995 and did not  
take the examination again.  
[329] Although that evidence is negligible from a statistical standpoint, and although it  
does not make it possible to infer a causal relationship between the questions drawn  
from the Bennett test and the results of the victims, their experience still illustrates the  
difficulty that the candidates for the position of network operator had in passing the  
theoretical examination given by Gaz Métro. Also considering that the evidence as a  
wholes established preponderantly that the questions drawn from that test clearly  
placed the women at a disadvantage, given that their mechanical knowledge was  
generally more limited than that of the men, the Tribunal concludes that the use, in the  
theoretical examination, of questions drawn from the Bennett test had a  
disproportionately exclusionary effect on the women and that, as such, it contributed to  
systemic discrimination against them in employment.  
[330] To justify use of the test despite its discriminatory effects on women, Gaz Métro  
had to demonstrate, first, that its use made it possible to adequately measure the  
367 A-19, supra note 18 at 25-27; Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 155-  
158.  
368 D-74, supra note 17 at 33.  
369 Lucien Aubé, stenographic notes, May 30, 2005 at 152-156.  
370 It will be recalled that Line Beaudoin and Joan Dupont were eliminated at the pre-interview stage.  
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knowledge essential to the duties of the position of network operator. Like the Canadian  
Human Rights Tribunal in the AFT case, I must, however, conclude that use of the  
Bennett test was not justified in this case.  
[331] First, as I said earlier,371 the duties of a network operator of the years at issue  
were never clearly described. Hence, it is difficult to ensure that the Bennett mechanical  
test, which clearly places women at a disadvantage, was valid in selecting the  
candidates with the qualifications essential to the position of network operator.  
[332] In addition, Gaz Métro never had recourse to criterion-related validation in order  
to ensure that the results as a whole on the theoretical examination, and particularly in  
the section containing questions taken from the Bennett test, were truly connected to  
the performance of the candidates after being hired as network operators. Hence, the  
Tribunal believes that Gaz Métro used a test that it knewor should have  
knownplaced the women at a disadvantage, and it did not demonstrate a rational  
connection between the duties of the position of network operator and the knowledge  
measured by the questions drawn from the test.  
[333] Although that conclusion suffices and it is therefore not necessary to also  
examine the proportionality of the theoretical examination, bear in mind that, as in the  
Canadian National case, the position of network operator is an entry-level position that  
does not require any particular qualifications. Given this, the Tribunal wonders whether  
the mechanical knowledge measured by the Bennett test was greater than the minimum  
requirements to begin the job, considering that that knowledge can probably be  
acquired in the two years of internal training.  
3.3.4.4 Conclusions regarding the theoretical examination  
[334] The choice of a qualitative rather than a quantitative analysis of the stages in the  
selection process has been explained.372 In that regard, all the conditions surrounding  
the written examination for the years at issue, particularly the level of difficulty of the  
examination questions, the negative marking, the prohibition on using a calculator and  
the absence of a list of formulas, applied the same way to the men and women.  
[335] At the same time, the examination questions from the Bennett test accounted for  
some 15% of the points attributed to the responses and had a discriminatory  
exclusionary effect on the women because their mechanical knowledge was more  
limited than that of men. In the absence of evidence establishing the rationality of the  
measure, Gaz Métro must accordingly modify the theoretical examination so as to  
eliminate the questions with a discriminatory exclusionary effect on women.  
371 See section 3.2.1 supra for an analysis of that issue.  
372 See section 3.3.3.5 supra for the explanations.  
 
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[336] The practical examination was given in Boucherville, in a Gaz Métro warehouse  
located near the company’s training centre. It was given by trainers, who also evaluated  
performance on the exam. From 1995 to 1997, Robert Bédard, Serge Charbonneau,  
Raymond Bissonnette and Pierre Bélanger performed those duties. Ronald Maise,  
laboratory technician at the training centre during that period, installed the tools and  
instruments required for the tests.373  
[337] Generally speaking, the candidates who had passed the theoretical examination  
took the practical examination. However, candidates who held an attestation of  
vocational specialization (AVS) in the repair of natural gas-operated appliances from  
institutions recognized by the ministère de l’Éducation were exempt from taking the  
test.374  
[338] According to the instruction manual for the evaluators of the practical  
examination, the examination was aimed at measuring physical strength, manual skill,  
mechanical skill and electrical skill (P-10). The six tests in the examination were as  
follows:  
[TRANSLATION]  
(1)  
Lift and carry a pneumatic drill over a distance of three metres, place the  
drill end in a hole and return to the starting point without touching the  
ground;  
(2)  
Dismantle into knocked-down parts and assemble, without joint  
compound, a previously screwed 1½" union fitting;  
(3)  
(4)  
Connect a water heater to a vertical, unsupplied pipe closed with a plug;  
Cut and flair a straight piece of pipe and connect it to a fixed control  
fitted with a propane adapter;  
(5)  
(6)  
Connect an electrical circuit in a sequence of two switches in parallel  
(series) operating two light bulbs in series (parallel);  
Use a multimeter to measure the voltage and amperage, and select the  
proper fuses.  
[339] According to Robert Bédard, that version of the practical examination had been  
in use since at least 1981.375 It was reportedly not modified in 1995.376 Mr. Bédard  
373 Ronald Maise, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 7 et seq.  
374 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 90-98.  
375 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 49.  
376 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 107-10.  
   
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indicated that, for very good candidates, additional, more advanced operations could be  
added.377 In the same case, the evaluator could also interrupt the test.378 Instruction  
manual P-10 in fact mentioned those possibilities.  
[340] The manual also indicated that a candidate’s grade on a test depended more on  
the way the candidate proceeded than on the result obtained, even if the result was  
excellent. Furthermore, the time allotted to each test was clearly established and was  
decisive in the grading. The candidates were not informed, however, that they had a  
limited amount of time in which to complete the tests and they therefore were not  
concerned with acting quickly.  
[341] In 1997, Johanne Bolduc took the practical examination but failed. During it, she  
took all her time so as to do the tests well, as she did not realize that going slowly was  
detrimental to her. She explained that, in such an examination, she did not dare to ask  
the evaluator questions and she believed that, if the time counted, she would be so  
informed.379 She failed with a grade of 35% and, according to the evaluator’s  
comments, she had particular difficulty with electricity.380 The evaluator recommended  
that, in anticipation of her taking the examination again, she buy a small electricity kit at  
Radio Shack in order to familiarize herself in a simple way with electrical circuits.381  
[342] Shirley Thomas took the practical examination in 1996. She was given the wrong  
test, the one for service employees rather than the one for network operators.382 The  
practical examination for the two positions overlapped, but the examination for network  
operators dealt with mechanics and electricity in a proportion of about ⅔ to ⅓, whereas  
the reverse was true in the case of the examination for service employees.383  
[343] For the examination, she brought her own gloves and tape measure, but was told  
their use was prohibited because all the equipment required was provided. She realized  
that she would have no gloves at her disposal.384 Although she ultimately passed the  
examination, evaluator Serge Charbonneau wrote [TRANSLATION] “work not precise,  
lack of application” on her evaluation.385 But Robert Bédard explained that the objective  
of the examination was not to make a good joint, but rather to produce an assembly that  
worked.386  
377 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 63.  
378 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 306; stenographic notes, January 24, 2006  
at 103.  
379 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 141.  
380 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 51.  
381 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 52.  
382 P-69, supra note 330, Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 219-221.  
383 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 48.  
384 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 117.  
385 P-69, supra note 30. Serge Charbonneau is deceased and therefore did not testify at the hearing.  
However, his name is given as evaluator on Shirley Thomas’s evaluation.  
386 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 43.  
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[344] As for the wrenches she had to use, she found them abnormally greasy.  
Furthermore, she explained that she felt humiliated because she had to assemble pipes  
[TRANSLATION] “on all fours on the floor”.387  
[345] Ms. Thomas prepared for the practical examination by hiring a master electrician  
to review notions about electricity, and by consulting another person concerning  
piping.388 But in the end she failed the examination with a grade of 47.2%.  
[346] Marie-Claude Côté took the practical examination in 1997 and passed it with  
60.4%. She was the only one of the seven victims in the case to pass it.  
[347] Line St-Onge, candidate for the position of network operator in the 1995  
competition, also testified about her experience in the practical examination, which she  
failed. Finding herself alone with the evaluator during the test, she was rather  
intimidated.389 She was not familiar with most of the tools used in the examination. The  
challenge was therefore to rapidly master those instruments and understand their use in  
order to carry out exercises as rapidly as possible. In fact, she noticed that she was  
timed.390  
[348] In the exercise with the pipe cutter, she did not approach it properly and crushed  
the pipe. Then, in doing another manoeuvre, she tried to undo a knot with both hands,  
whereas she should have placed her foot on the tool. In both cases, she received no  
instructions from the evaluator about the procedure to follow, of which she was  
unaware. It was only after she did the exercises improperly that the evaluator showed  
her the proper way, which proved to be very simple. She then asked if she could do the  
tests again, but she was not allowed to. As Ms. St-Onge explained:  
[TRANSLATION  
It’s because it wasn’t … in my case, I thought I was going to take a test with  
things I know how to use, that I knew about. But I was not familiar with the tools  
and didn’t know how to use them. And no one showed me. They weren’t things  
that it takes three (3) weeks to learn. They were things, as I said, that you learn  
immediately, that are easy to do. And I would have liked to start over to really see  
whether it was because I was clumsy with the tools or because I didn’t know how  
to use them at the time of the test.391  
[349] It is nonetheless surprising that, despite Ms. St-Onge’s obvious ignorance of the  
tools she was supposed to use, the evaluator did not give her a modicum of instructions  
that could help her do the tests. In fact, Robert Bédard explained that, in such a case,  
the evaluator usually provides the candidate with explanations so that the candidate can  
progress in the test; that is actually indicated in instruction manual P-10.  
387 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 118.  
388 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 96-97.  
389 Line St-Onge, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 11.  
390 Line St-Onge, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 11-12.  
391 Line St-Onge, stenographic notes, February 3, 2005 at 14-15.  
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3.3.5.2 Evaluation of the practical examination  
- Validity  
[350] The design, standardization and administration of the practical examination,  
which are characteristics of its validity, merit scrutiny here. Concerning its design  
specifically, the evidence before the Tribunal provided very little information, besides the  
fact that Robert Bédard and Serge Charbonneau prepared the examination together.392  
According to expert Chantale Jeanrie, the lack of information about the origin and  
preparation of the examination is a considerable shortcoming. Consequently, the validity  
of the examination could not be demonstrated, in her opinion.393  
[351] The standardization and administration of the examination also pose certain  
problems, particularly in terms of the uniformity of the instructions given candidates.  
According to manual P-10, the evaluator could, in the event of a major problem,  
intervene and provide the candidate with a few tips, without, however, revealing the  
solution to the test. Mr. Bédard confirmed that and indicated that periods of time were  
set aside for the evaluator to intervene in order to enable the candidate to progress in  
the test. Questioned in that regard, evaluator Raymond Bissonnette added that no  
instruction manual contained the types of tips that could be given to candidates. Rather,  
they acted by example, that is, evaluators watched more experienced trainers and  
understood the limits to the assistance they could give candidates.394  
[352] As for the time allotted for each test, Robert Bédard explained that it could be  
extended [TRANSLATION] “at the discretion of the evaluator”.395  
[353] Manual P-10 also mentions that the evaluator could ask a very good candidate  
additional questions. But there was no list of additional questions. Mr. Bissonnette also  
said here once again that example and experience enabled the trainer to ask  
appropriate questions.396  
[354] Since two different evaluators probably will not give the same tips or ask the  
same additional questions, expert Jeanrie noted that not all the candidates were subject  
to the same conditions in the practical examination, which diminished the  
standardization of the examination and, therefore, considerably reduced its possible  
predictive value.397  
392 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 180, 201 and 278; stenographic notes,  
January 18, 2006 at 81; stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 173.  
393 P-43, supra note 10 at 24.  
394 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 221.  
395 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 103-104.  
396 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 223.  
397 P-43, supra note 10 at 25.  
 
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[355] Expert Pettersen also noted that the instructions to be followed gave examiners a  
certain leeway. He mentioned that the leeway was not negative per se, but it could be  
so if the evaluators did not use it the same way.398  
[356] In that regard, Robert Bédard indicated that the evaluators had internal training  
as partners of more experienced evaluators so that evaluations would be standardized.  
Mr. Bédard said, however, that that [TRANSLATION] “training” was not provided for  
anywhere in writing and that it was actually an [TRANSLATION] “oral tradition”.399  
Moreover, he admitted that intervention with the candidates necessarily differed  
according to the evaluator and he again pointed out the leeway governing such  
intervention.400  
[357] First, expert Pettersen stressed the difficulty in perfectly structuring the questions  
and tips, and providing for all the cases in which an evaluator might be called upon to  
intervene.401 In his cross-examination, Mr. Bédard was unable to say what would merit a  
mark of 2/4:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Q – Since you say [TRANSLATION] “with assistance”, [TRANSLATION] “pass  
the examination with assistance”.  
A – With assistance? Well …  
Q Does that result in two (2) points out of four (4)?  
A – That means that … well, it depends on what you observe. OK? You can’t cut  
it with a knife and say: [TRANSLATION] “Good, it’s certain that’s worth two (2)  
points”. It depends on what was observed. Of course, it isn’t four (4). That we  
agree on. After that, according to the … the type of assistance, the number of  
times the evaluator had to intervene, well, then, it’s certain that that changes and  
one can see, however, that, well, for each test, that aspect is … we take that into  
account, but for each of the criteria.  
So, if one candidate did well, that’s going to be worth four (4). And if, on a part,  
we spent our time demonstrating or going back over it, it’s certain that points are  
lost if you have to do the person’s work.  
Q My understanding of the correction key is that, when the candidate succeeds  
with assistance, two (2) out of four (4) points are given. Am I wrong? That isn’t  
the way it works exactly?  
398 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 184.  
399 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 294; stenographic notes, January 24, 2006  
at 98.  
400 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 24, 2006 at 94-102.  
401 A-19, supra note 18 at 31 and 36.  
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… to be very … to affirm that in regard to [TRANSLATION] “passing with  
assistance”. What I can say is that there are, if many tips are given, then points  
are lost. What is the ratio? Sorry, I can’t recall. I would very much like to give you  
a more precise answer but it is … it is really according to what is observed.402  
[358] In addition, the comments on the practical examination evaluation sheet (P-69)  
for certain candidates refer to criteria unrelated to the job of network operator. For  
example, Shirley Thomas’s evaluator noted that she lacked initiative. Not only is that  
observation strange, considering that Ms. Thomas was an entrepreneur, but more  
importantly, initiative is not a characteristic that was supposed to be measured in the  
practical examination and it cannot be assumed that the other candidates were  
evaluated on that basis. That definitely reduced the examination’s validity.  
[359] Moreover, there seems to be some disparity among evaluators in the way the  
candidates were graded. Evaluation form D-12 lists the requirements of each test in  
detail and provides boxes for each so that the evaluator can check whether the  
requirement was met and indicate the corresponding grade.  
[360] Nowhere did Serge Charbonneau, who evaluated Shirley Thomas, indicate the  
points for each requirement, but merely indicated whether each requirement was or was  
not met. As for Raymond Bissonnette, Marie-Claude Côté’s examiner, he gave details  
about each element and indicated the number of points obtained. In his testimony, Mr.  
Bissonnette in fact admitted that he would not have filled out Shirley Thomas’s  
evaluation the same way that Serge Charbonneau did.403 Perhaps that difference in  
method did not prejudice the candidates, but doubt subsists and it demonstrates  
deficient standardization at the very least.  
[361] Lastly, Gaz Métro never had the practical examination used in the years at issue  
validated externally. Even Lucien Aubé and Yves Ste-Marie, who were mandated in  
1997 to give their opinions regarding the quality of the selection process, merely  
analysed the theoretical examination.  
[362] For these reasons, the practical examination does not meet the criterion of  
validity.  
- Relevance  
[363] The practical examination was intended to verify whether a candidate had two of  
the requirements mentioned in job profile P-3, i.e. qualifications in electricity and  
mechanics, and the ability to do work requiring a certain physical strength.  
402 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 133-134.  
403 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 216 et seq.  
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[364] According to Raymond Bissonnette, the practical examination was mainly aimed  
at observing a candidate’s knowledge and handling of tools.404 Robert Bédard explained  
that the examination made it possible to observe the candidate’s logic in performing the  
work, how the candidate handled the tools, the candidate’s ability to organize the work,  
and the final result.405 In that regard, Mr. Bédard indicated that a candidate who  
organized the allotted time well in each test was looked on favourably.406  
[365] In her report, expert Jeanrie did not discuss the relevance of the practical  
examination. But she mentioned in her testimony that mechanics and hydraulics were  
relevant requirements,407 as was physical strength.408 Expert Pettersen merely  
mentioned, without elaborating, that the content of the examination was related to the  
job of network operator.409 Only expert Boulard prepared a table in which he suggested  
certain links between the different tests and the requirements of the position.410  
[366] As regards the first test, the one involving a pneumatic drill, Mr. Boulard linked it  
to the requirement of physical strength, which was, in his opinion, inherent in the  
position. He linked the second test, which consisted in dismantling a connecting pipe, to  
the manual skills required in all duties of a network operator. He linked the third and  
fourth tests, respectively, the connection of a water heater and the fitting of a pipe, to  
the mechanical skills required in the job. As for the last two tests, dealing with an  
electrical circuit and the handling of a multimeter, Mr. Boulard associated them with the  
required knowledge and skills in electricity. As regards the multimeter, he said that it is  
an instrument usually found in the job of network operator, in which it is very frequently  
used. Network operators do not have to make electrical circuits in the performance of  
their duties but must know the general principles of those assemblies.  
[367] At first glance, the tests appear relevant and related to the position in this case.  
Nevertheless, keep in mind that, in the absence of a real description of duties, the  
logical connections made between the tests and the corresponding duties are  
debatable. What is more, the practical examination never underwent criterion-related  
validation, which would have made it possible to attest the relevance of each test in  
terms of the performance of network operators once they are working in the position.  
Therefore, the relevance of the practical examinationobvious a priorishould have  
been confirmed in an external analysis.  
- Weighting  
[368] The grading scale for the practical examination was as follows: a very good  
performance merited four points, performance of the duty with no assistance merited  
404 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 118.  
405 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 303.  
406 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 303-306.  
407 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 50.  
408 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 53.  
409 A-19, supra note 18 at 30.  
410 D-74, supra note 17 at 38.  
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three points, performance with assistance or explanations merited two points, and no  
points were awarded if the candidate could not complete the test. Furthermore,  
performance time in each test was counted in the grade, but the candidates were not  
informed of the time allotted. In addition, weighting for the time spent performing the  
task was not indicated anywhere, as a number of points to be deducted if the time  
allotted was not respected or as a number of points to be attributed for a task performed  
within the time allotted. Hence, it is, in particular, impossible to know to what extent  
Marie-Claude Côté was penalized when she did not have enough time to complete  
certain tests in the practical examination.411  
[369] Moreover, the Tribunal noted a wide variation in the grades obtained by a  
candidate in two practical examinations, one taken in 1995 and the other in 1996. For  
the same practical examination, Sylvie Lafleur was given a grade of 75% the first time  
and 61.1% the second time.412 Ms. Lafleur’s evaluation sheets were not adduced in  
evidence, so the Tribunal has no information that would enable it to know the reasons  
for that disparity in grading, for example, whether she was evaluated by two different  
examiners. Hence, the Tribunal can at most observe the surprising grading of two  
identical tests administered to the same person, especially since her success on the  
first examination indicated to the candidate that she went about the exam the right way  
and could do the same the second time around.  
[370] Also bear in mind here that a properly weighted selection examination implies  
that its weight in the selection process as a whole is relative in terms of the other  
selection stages. But Gaz Métro never attributed a weight to each stage in comparison  
with the others; instead, a candidate could be eliminated at any stage.  
[371] The Tribunal therefore concludes that the practical examination did not meet the  
weighting requirement.  
3.3.5.3 Conclusions regarding the practical examination  
[372] Having concluded that the practical examination did not meet the quality criteria  
of a stage in the selection process, thus reducing its predictive value, the Tribunal must  
now rule on its discriminatory nature in light of the evidence in support of that allegation.  
[373] Expert Laurencelle having clearly explained why an analysis of small  
samplesi.e. the limited size of the groups of men and women who passed the  
examinationcannot yield probative statistical evidence, the Tribunal has decided, as it  
did in the case of the interview and the theoretical examination, not to base its ruling on  
the statistical evidence provided for the most part by experts Pettersen and Laurencelle.  
411 See P-69, supra note 330.  
412 P-77: excerpts from the results of the written and practical examinations notes made during  
internal training 3 candidates.  
 
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[374] The principal mandate of Karen Messing, ergonomic expert for ATF, was to  
analyse the practical examination. Concretely, her analysis dealt more specifically with  
the tests of strength and manual skills, to the exclusion of the electricity tests. She  
noted, from an ergonomic standpoint, morphological differences between men and  
women and demonstrated their effects on their respective performances on the practical  
examination.413 The Tribunal deemed that witness competent, credible and objective.  
Throughout her testimony, Ms. Messing remained within the boundaries of her expertise  
and based her testimony on the evidence, leaving very little leeway for subjective  
assessment. In addition, her testimony was not contradicted. Hence, the Tribunal has  
no hesitation in referring to it.  
[375] Expert Messing explained that the corporal segments of women are generally  
smaller than those of men.414 In most cases, men are taller and weigh more, their hands  
are longer and wider, and so on. The proportion of men’s and women’s corporal  
segments is also different. For example, women’s arms are shorter, proportionate to  
their height, than men’s.415 Furthermore, the axis of the spine is more to the rear of the  
axis of the hips in women. In men, both axes are centered.416 The size of women’s  
chests is also a significant morphological difference.417  
[376] Ms. Messing pointed out a number of consequences of these anatomical  
differences. First, women’s dynamic physical strength (in movement), i.e. their capacity  
to handle loads, is affected.418 Since their arms are shorter proportionate to their height,  
their muscles must work harder in a given exercise.419 In addition, the alignment of the  
spine in women produces more impact on the lower back when straining, because  
women have to use more strength to stabilize themselves. Therefore, any load seems  
an average of 15% heavier to handle.420  
[377] For these reasons, women can generally lift or lower (vertical movement) 65% of  
the average maximum weight that men can handle. They can also pull or push  
(horizontal movement) about 85% of the average maximum weight that men can  
handle. Furthermore, women have 50% to 85% of the muscle strength of men,  
according to whether upper or lower muscles are used.421  
[378] Expert Messing then discussed the tangible consequences of these differences  
in a workplace traditionally occupied by men. She noted that work environments, tools  
and equipment have generally been designed and adjusted according to the average  
413 A-6, supra note 15.  
414 A-6, supra note 15 at 1-2.  
415 A-6, supra note 15 at 4.  
416 A-6, supra note 15 at 4-5.  
417 A-6, supra note 15 at 5.  
418 A-6, supra note 15 at 6.  
419 A-6, supra note 15 at 4.  
420 A-6, supra note 15 at 5.  
421 A-6, supra note 15 at 5.  
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man, that is, a White North American male.422 When the work instruments cannot be  
adjustment to fit women’s dimensions, women’s workload and discomfort increases,  
contributing to a reduced performance compared with their male counterparts, because  
the installations do not allow them to use all their strength.423 For example, women may  
have more difficulty if work tables are too high for them, if tool handles are too big and if  
protective gloves are too big.424  
[379] In addition, women experience proportionally greater improvement than men  
when they are trained to use their strength.425 When women have working conditions  
(tools, equipment, etc.) adapted to their morphology, their performance is just as good,  
if not better, than that of men.426 What is more, they have better results when they are  
allowed to find the approach that suits them in a given situation,427 which is sometimes  
difficult because no women have been hired for a position. In her testimony, Ms.  
Messing gave the example of an engine re-assembly shop where three women and  
1500 men were employed. Everyone frequently had to screw bolts on and off. Because  
of the wrench commonly used in the shop, one women had difficulty with the task and  
her performance speed was about half that of her co-workers. When she could use a  
longer wrench that was better adapted to her morphology, she performed the duty in  
less time than her male co-workers.428  
[380] In an environment adapted to male workers, like those usually prevailing in blue-  
collar jobs, men have an undeniable performance advantage in a test of physical  
strength or manual skill. Expert Messing concluded as follows:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[i]f a pre-hiring test, like the practical examination for the position of network  
operator, is designed according to the characteristics and ways of doing things of  
the average male, male-female differences are exaggerated in the test, and  
women do not perform as well as they should, and not as well as men.429  
[381] According to a study conducted with a colleague, the predictive value of a  
practical examination is lower for women than for men, given that, in actual employment  
conditions, women are able to use different techniques and develop strategies in order  
to perform the same duties, but in their own way. In a test, they comply quite faithfully  
with what is asked, even though the conditions are often not optimal for them.430  
[382] The evaluators for Gaz Métro’s practical examination seemed to ignore the  
impact of those differences between men and women on the women’s performance of a  
422 A-6, supra note 15 at 4.  
423 A-6, supra note 15 at 6, 7 and 11.  
424 A-6, supra note 15 at 3.  
425 A-6, supra note 15 at 6.  
426 A-6, supra note 15 at 6-7.  
427 A-6, supra note 15 at 8 and 12-13.  
428 Karen Messing, stenographic notes, February 11, 2005 at 21-22.  
429 A-6, supra note 15 at 13.  
430 Karen Messing, stenographic notes, February 11, 2005 at 38.  
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given task. For example, Robert Bédard mentioned that the practical examination was  
used, first and foremost, to observe and judge how the candidates organized their work  
in a test. According to Ms. Messing’s explanations, women almost always approach a  
task differently and find a way to organize and carry out the task in a way more suitable  
for them. If an evaluation has as its standard only one way of doing things based on that  
of men, it is necessarily tainted by bias that penalizes women.  
[383] Ms. Messing focused particularly on the pneumatic drill test and explained with  
myriad details why it was not adapted to women.431 In this case, not only did the seven  
victims pass that test, but examiners Raymond Bissonnette and Robert Bédard said that  
no candidate had ever failed it.432 The Tribunal nevertheless believes that that is a  
revealing example of the unsuitable conditions for women prevailing at Gaz Métro.  
Robert Bédard explained in his testimony that, to ensure the fairness of the process, the  
uniformity of the environment and of the circumstances in which men and women took  
the practical examination was promoted. As seen previously, that approach  
corresponds much more to the definition of formal equality than to that of real equality,  
which takes into account the different ways of performing work in a safe and efficient  
manner, and the adjustments required to that end.  
[384] What is more, in the specific case of Shirley Thomas, certain parts of the  
practical examination also seem to have been directly discriminatory. She took the  
practical examination in unusual conditions, on the floor in a humiliating position, with  
slippery tools that were likely to pose a hazard if not prevent her from doing the exercise  
properly. Furthermore, she was prohibited from using her own gloves on the ground that  
all the material required was provided on the examination premises, although she was  
given none.  
[385] Lastly, the exemption of candidates with an AVS was another link in the chain of  
the system that, at Gaz Métro, perpetuated the discrimination against women and kept  
their being hired for the position of network operator at a marginal level. Note that the  
only type of AVS leading to the exemption concerned the repair of natural gas-operated  
appliances. Hence, although they both held AVSs in the installation of power lines,  
Marie-Claude Côté and Tania Plourde were not given a comparable exemption.  
[386] Moreover, according to government data, no women in the greater Montréal area  
held an AVS in natural gas-operated devices from 1994 to 1998, compared with 91 men  
who did.433 Robert Bédard, who taught courses leading to an AVS, confirmed that he  
431 A-6, supra note 15 at 8-9.  
432 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 3, 2005 at 115 and 119; Robert Bédard,  
stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 300.  
433 P-42: Tables prepared by Ms. Bastien indicating the representation by sex of those who earned  
diplomas in the appliance repair course from 1995 to 1997, Monik Bastien, stenographic notes, February  
9, 2005 at 11-12.  
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that he never had a woman in his courses.434 Hence, there is no doubt that the only  
candidates exempt from the practical examination were men.  
[387] Let me point out that that exemption is not completely automatic, but rather  
discretionary. The decision to exempt a candidate or not depending on the results of the  
training leading to the AVS lies with the training centre, i.e. mainly Robert Bédard and  
Serge Charbonneau. According to the data collected from the various recruitment  
campaigns held from 1995 to 1997, Mr. Robeluna, a man holding an AVS, was  
exempted from the theoretical examination and the practical examination in 1995  
because he had recently completed his AVS training and it was assumed that his  
knowledge was up-to-date.435  
[388] In the October 1997 recruitment, Mathieu Belzile was also exempted from the  
practical examination although he did not hold an AVS. The training centre deemed that  
the good grade he obtained on a practical examination taken in the framework of the  
1996 recruitment exempted him from taking the examination again.436 But Sylvie  
Lafleur, who had successfully completed the selection process in 1995, had to take the  
same examinations again in 1996.437  
[389] Considering the absence of accommodation measures adapted to the physical  
characteristics of the female candidates in the practical examination, the different  
conditions imposed on some of them and the exemption granted only to men, the  
Tribunal concludes that the practical examination had a disproportionate exclusionary  
and discriminatory effect on women. An examination of the arguments of Gaz Métro in  
support of the examination is therefore necessary.  
[390] According to the stages in the method set forth in Meiorin, I must first ascertain  
the rationality of the connection between the actual duties in the job of network operator  
and the purpose of the measure.  
[391] Jean-Pierre Raymond mentioned that the objective of the practical examination  
was to recruit candidates able to succeed in the two-year training and effectively  
perform the duties of a network operator.438  
[392] According to Mr. Bédard, the principal designer and evaluator of the practical  
examination, and Gaz Métro’s expert witnesses, the examination was connected to  
success in the training, the effectiveness of the candidate once hired and respect for the  
safety rules in manoeuvres. For example, a candidate who [TRANSLATION] “forced”  
434 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 91-93.  
435 D-59: 1995 recruitment, new data; D-61: April 1996 recruitment results; D-62: November 1996  
recruitment results; D-63: April 1997 recruitment results; D-64: October 1997 recruitment results;  
Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 10, 2006 at 15.  
436 D-60: 1997 recruitment results.  
437 P-77, supra note 412.  
438 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 203.  
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parts in order to connect them could cause a distortion in the system, or even a gas  
leak.439  
[393] Furthermore, the practical examination particularly had to show whether the  
candidate was able to make verifications using a multimeter. Mr. Bédard said in that  
regard that a candidate was not required to demonstrate advanced techniques worthy of  
a specialist. Rather, the candidate had to choose the best instrument from among those  
in the multimeter, correctly interpret the measurement taken and check whether the  
batteries were good.440  
[394] Mr. Bédard also indicated that the basic concepts, such as atmospheric  
pressure, would not be specifically reviewed in the internal training. The trainers merely  
went over them. Therefore, the candidate had to know those concepts in order to  
understand, without too much trouble, how they interact.441  
[395] Expert Boulard confirmed the need for the practical examination as administered,  
on the ground that the internal training covered material at a rapid pace. In his opinion,  
candidates who did not have the basic knowledge could not keep up. Hence, it would be  
illogical to hire certain candidates and inevitably find, three weeks later, that they could  
not develop the required skills because they did not, from the start, have the basic  
knowledge needed.442 However, the Tribunal noted that Mr. Boulard admitted in his  
testimony that his statements concerning the essential nature of the practical  
examination did not stem from an analysis he conducted as an expert. They were  
simply a reflection of what Robert Bédard had told him.443  
[396] The evidence of record showed, however, that the tests in the practical  
examination measured knowledge that did not always take long to learn. Some of the  
knowledge concerned tricks of the trade, which merely had to be explained before they  
could be used correctly in performing the tasks. That reasoning applies to, among other  
things, safety procedures. A candidate who, in an examination, does not know how to  
carry a pneumatic drill safely may perform the task in a way that could cause injury. But  
simple instructions by the evaluator would enable the candidate to act safely. In that  
type of situation, to which the victims in particular were exposed, not having executed a  
manoeuvre correctly in the practical examination was therefore in no way a prediction of  
the candidate’s effectiveness once she held the position.  
[397] Generally speaking, the Tribunal believes that the aspects invoked by Gaz Métro  
give the practical examination a degree of rationality in terms of the job of network  
operator. However, as I indicated in the analysis of the relevance of that selection tool, it  
is still, if not difficult, at least hazardous, in the absence of an adequate description of  
439 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 39-40.  
440 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 60-61.  
441 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 29.  
442 François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 94-95.  
443 François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 20, 2006 at 22-23 and 51.  
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the actual duties, to establish a true correspondence between them and the mandatory  
stages in the selection process, including the practical examination.  
[398] However, the Tribunal believes that Gaz Métro manifestly failed to meet its  
second obligation according to Meiorin, that is, to establish the proportionality of the  
practical examination. To that end, Gaz Métro had to demonstrate first that the tests in  
the practical examination were at a minimum level, so as to enable all the candidates  
able to do the work in a safe and efficient manner to be hired. The company therefore  
also had to establish that those requirements were adjusted according to the different  
ways that candidates in certain groupswomen in this casecould meet them. In other  
words, Gaz Métro had to show that it was impossible, without undue hardship, to  
accommodate the female candidates by adapting the examination so as to enable them  
to be evaluated according to their actual abilities to perform the duties essential to the  
position of network operator.  
[399] First, the Tribunal notes from the evidence that, given its efforts to train network  
operators and its dual objective of ensuring the effectiveness of the distribution network  
and the safety of its employees and the public, Gaz Métro sought candidates with the  
best knowledge and skills; hence the main abilities measured in the practical  
examination exceeded those required in order to be hired as a network operator.  
[400] Expert Pettersen actually stated that he was in favour of the approach according  
to which work on the gas networks required that no risk be incurred in terms of the  
candidates’ competence, from the time they were hired. In his opinion, the job of  
network operator was one in which incompetence could prove decisive, which justified  
the rejection of good candidates to the benefit of the best ones. Commenting on the  
practical examination as a stage in the selection process, he said: [TRANSLATION]  
“[W]e can’t give everyone a chance here”.444 He went further, saying that it was more  
harmful for Gaz Métro to hire an incompetent candidate than to reject a person despite  
his or her competence. So in the name of caution, the company had to minimize the risk  
of error. Mr. Pettersen added, however, in regard to the minimum level of the safety  
requirements of the practical examination: [TRANSLATION] “Are there data that show  
that level is essential? I haven’t seen any.”445  
[401] Second, that situation also reflects the reality of work environments marked by  
the absence of women,446 where apparently neutral standards are established  
according to a homogeneous male milieu, without taking into account physical  
characteristics proper to women that are likely to affect the way they perform a task.  
[402] In fact, it was in those circumstances that Gaz Métro, with a supposed concern  
for fairness, compelled women to take a practical examination that included no  
accommodation measure, since any change was automatically associated with a  
444 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 74.  
445 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 11, 2006 at 73.  
446 See section 2.1 of my decision.  
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reduction in the requirements to which men were subjected. By doing that, the company  
applied the [TRANSLATION] “usual” requirements that had served it well in the past but  
were at the expense of a woman’s right to equality in employment.  
[403] In that regard, the Tribunal notes Ms. Messing’s conclusions that a practical  
examination designed by and for men, like the one in this case, cannot adequately  
evaluate the performance of women and, therefore, reliably establish their effectiveness  
once they are hired for the position. As Ms. Messing explained, women have and  
develop ways of doing things[TRANSLATION] “techniques”that differ from those of  
men, and forcing women to use the same methods as men is tantamount to imposing  
an additional requirement on them.  
[404] Considering the evidence of record, the Tribunal therefore cannot conclude that  
Gaz Métro established preponderantly that it could not, without undue hardship,  
accommodate the female candidates by making changes adapted to their physical  
characteristics and allowing them, in the examination, to proceed differently from the  
men in order to establish their actual capacities to hold the position of network operator  
safely and efficiently.  
3.3.6 Medical examination  
[405] After successfully passing the various stages in the selection process, the  
candidates underwent a medical examination. In the case of the seven victims here,  
only Marie-Claude Côté succeeded in all the prior selection stages and reached that  
ultimate stage.  
[406] At the time of that stage, Ms. Côté was 21 weeks pregnant.447 The physician told  
her she had to notify the employment office that she was pregnant.448 In his report,449 he  
issued an opinion about her aptitude to work with temporary restrictions concerning the  
lifting of heavy weights, difficult corporal positions, physical exertion, overtime and so  
on. Although it appears relatively obvious in reading the restrictions that they were  
issued because of pregnancy, the report does not explicitly mention it. Shortly  
thereafter, Marie-Claude Côté learned that she had not been chosen for the position of  
network operator.450  
[407] Jean-Pierre Raymond stated that he was never informed of the results of  
candidates’ medical examinations and that he therefore was not informed of Marie-  
Claude Côté’s pregnancy.451 Sylvie Richard qualified that and indicated that, even  
though the medical office did not transmit detailed information about an examination,  
Gaz Métro still received the medical report indicating a candidate’s degree of medical  
447 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 50.  
448 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 50.  
449 P-68C.2, supra note 189.  
450 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 50-51.  
451 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, February 7, 2006 at 103 and 113.  
 
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aptitude.452 She also explained that Mr. Raymond had all the necessary freedom to  
ultimately reject a candidate whose employment restrictions were deemed incompatible  
with the duties to be performed.453 It is therefore entirely likely that he read Marie-  
Claude Côté’s medical report, easily deduced from all the restrictions that she was  
pregnant and decided on that basis not to hire her, judging that her condition would  
prevent her from undergoing the training properly.  
[408] It was, in fact, at a time that coincides perfectly with the medical appointment that  
the people in charge at Gaz Métro said they had doubts about Ms. Côté’s qualifications  
and decided to withdraw her from the selection process, on the ground that she would  
not be able to complete the training.454 Carole Magnan approved the initial decision of  
Jean-Pierre Raymond not to hire Marie-Claude Côté.455 Ms. Magnan explained that they  
were entirely certain that Marie-Claude Côté would not complete the training leading to  
the position of network operator:  
[TRANSLATION]  
If we had had the least doubt, we would have offered it to her. She was a person  
with an excellent profile but we were convinced that she would not succeed and it  
was from that standpoint that I supported the decision of Ms. Richard and Mr.  
Raymond.456  
[409] Sylvie Richard, Jean-Pierre Raymond and Carole Magnan reportedly felt that  
Marie-Claude Côté’s candidacy should be rejected because her results on the tests  
were relatively weak and she successfully completed the selection process only on her  
third try.457 But Sylvie Richard pointed that there is no limit to the number of times one  
can go through the process at Gaz Métro and a candidate from an FTQ unionized  
sector tried five times before succeeding.458 Furthermore, Robert Bédard confirmed that  
it is common practice for Gaz Métro personnel to submit their candidacy again after they  
fail, without there being a maximum number of possible tries.459  
[410] In addition, Carole Magnan stressed the importance of having motivated  
candidates and the company’s concern with verifying candidates’ level of motivation.  
Cross-examined about Marie-Claude Côté’s specific case, she said Ms. Côté seemed  
[TRANSLATION] “very motivated”,460 as she had tried three times to succeed in the  
selection process, had the appropriate driver’s licence and truly wanted to take part in  
the pilot project.  
452 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 226.  
453 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 76.  
454 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 19, 2006 at 43; stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 119.  
455 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 19, 2006 at 42; Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes,  
February 9, 2006 at 128.  
456 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 190.  
457 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 19, 2006 at 43; stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 119;  
Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 134.  
458 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 169.  
459 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 17, 2006 at 55-56.  
460 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 190.  
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[411] Jean-Pierre Raymond also said that the medical examination that accepted  
candidates had to undergo was usually a mere formality prior to beginning network  
operator training.461 Thus, the medical examination itself did not constitute an additional  
stage at which candidates could be eliminated, along with the stages of the interview,  
the theoretical examination and the practical examination.  
[412] However, sending candidates for the medical examination involved costs for Gaz  
Métro. Hence, it goes without saying that all candidates were not invited to undergo  
one, but only those who passed the examinations and were chosen by the company.462  
At that stage in the process, the decision of the people in charge of hiring was already  
taking shape through the other stages in the selection process and they had an  
opportunity to confirm it. In other words, the candidates invited to undergo a medical  
examination were unofficially assured of obtaining the job.  
[413] In short, there is a major contradiction in the testimonies of Carole Magnan,  
Jean-Pierre Raymond and Sylvie Richard: at first, in their eyes, Marie-Claude Côté was  
an excellent candidate. She corresponded perfectly to the profile sought and showed  
uncommon motivation to hold the position of network operator. Encouraged by the  
company to succeed in the selection process, she ultimately did and was sent to  
undergo the medical examination. It was only after the examination that doubts arose,  
supposedly about her inability to complete the internal training, doubts that culminated  
in an absolute certainty that she would fail in the future.  
[414] Accordingly, although there is no direct evidence that the decision to reject  
Marie-Claude Côté was based on her pregnancy, the Tribunal believes that the  
presumptions that her candidacy was rejected owing to discriminatory considerations  
are serious, specific and corroborating. The context of the decision, the explanations of  
Sylvie Richard, Carole Magnan and Jean-Pierre Raymond that the medical examination  
was a mere formality for candidates chosen at the end of the selection process, and the  
concomitance of Marie-Claude Côté’s medical examination report and the decision not  
to hire her all logically contribute to the conclusion that the refusal to hire her was  
discriminatory because it was based on her pregnancy, which could be inferred from the  
information in the report.  
[415] Bear in mind as well that, to arrive at such a conclusion, it is not necessary for  
the evidence to show that the decision was solely motivated by Marie-Claude Côté’s  
pregnancy. On the contrary, it is sufficient only that that element have been taken into  
consideration and have contributed to her rejection for it to be considered  
discriminatory.463  
461 Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, January 26, 2006 at 168; stenographic notes, January 27,  
2006 at 67; stenographic notes, February 7, 2006 at 120.  
462 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 75-76.  
463 See in that regard Brossard (Town) v. Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne), [1988] 2  
S.C.R. 279; Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. École  
supérieure de ballet contemporain de Montréal, 2008 Q.C. TDP 19 at para. 122; Québec (Commission  
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[416] For these reasons, the Tribunal concludes that the evidence establishes  
preponderantly that Marie-Claude Côté was not hired for a discriminatory reason based  
on her pregnancy, after having succeeded in all the stages of a process tainted by  
discrimination toward women.  
3.3.7 Pilot project  
[417] In the fall of 1995, Louise Buzit-Beaulieu did an internship at Gaz Métro in the  
framework of her BA in psychosociology. At the end of a discussion with Carole  
Magnan, it was decided that her internship project would deal with the issue of women  
whom Gaz Métro wanted to hire because they had the proper profile, but who then  
failed the theoretical examination.464 Ms. Buzit-Beaulieu set up a pilot project to help  
some women gain access to the job of network operator.  
[418] Among the women who failed the theoretical examination, only the five  
candidates who obtained the highest results were chosen to participate in the project,  
including Marie-Claude Côté and Shirley Thomas. When Tania Plourde heard about the  
pilot project, she showed great interest in participating in it and contacted Sylvie  
Richard. Ms. Richard responded, however, that Ms. Plourde’s grade on the theoretical  
examination was too low for her to be included in the group, which was made up of the  
five best women only.465  
[419] Initially, the pilot project was to consist of three stages: first, an evaluation of the  
candidates’ psychological profile; second, practical tests in order to determine their  
shortcomings; and third, additional customized training to correct their shortcomings and  
enhance their chances of successfully completing the selection process. Ms Buzit-  
Beaulieu informed the candidates that Gaz Métro was negotiating with the Commission  
des écoles catholiques de Montréal (CECM) and the Société québécoise de  
développement de la main-d’œuvre (SQDM) so that the supplementary training would  
become a reality.466 Carole Magnan explained the steps taken with the SQDM from that  
standpoint.467  
[420] Only two meetings ultimately took place. The five women were first invited to a  
practice test at the Boucherville training centre in the presence of Louise Buzit-Beaulieu  
and Robert Bédard. No grades were given at that point and the exercise was to be used  
des droits de la personne) v. Petite-Rivière-Saint-François (Municipalité de), [1993] R.J.Q. 2279 at 2282-  
2283 (T.D.P.); Québec (Commission des droits de la personne) v. Lessard, Beaucage, Lemieux inc.  
(1992), 19 C.H.R.R. 441 (QC T.D.P.); Québec (Commission des droits de la personne) v. Lalonde  
(October 2, 1992), Val D’Or 615-53-000001-911, J.E. 92-1629 (QC T.D.P.).  
464 Louise Buzit-Beaulieu, stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 14.  
465 Tania Plourde, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 168-170.  
466 Louise Buzit-Beaulieu, stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 24-25.  
467 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 19, 2006 at 18.  
 
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to determine the candidates’ individual difficulties and to give them advice so that they  
could improve and eventually pass the practical examination.468  
[421] Marie-Claude Côté recounted in particular that, in regard to a pipe connection  
that she seemed incapable of making, Mr. Bédard told her she should have asked for a  
tape measure so as to be able to perform the task requested. Ms. Côté explained that  
the toolbox at her disposal contained no tape measure, but that Mr. Bédard had one in  
his hands. However, given the relatively formal framework of the test, she did not dare  
to ask him for it.469  
[422] Then, in the electricity exercise using a multimeter, she was misled. She verified  
an electrical wire and noted that it was good. Subsequently, Robert Bédard told her that  
her result was distorted by the fact that she was leaning on the metal table, which was a  
conductor.470 However, in his testimony, Raymond Bissonnette explained that leaning  
on a metal table would have no effect on the electrical work performed in the  
exercise.471 Since Robert Bédard is a seasoned evaluator, the question arises as to  
whether Marie-Claude Côté was or was not deliberately misled.  
[423] Ms. Côté said that Mr. Bédard made an effort, after each test, to explain her  
errors and show her the proper way to proceed.472 According to her, the exercises were  
not difficult to understand once Mr. Bédard had explained them to her.  
[424] Shirley Thomas said she had to do exercises requiring a tape measure and a  
calculator without, however, being able to use the tools, which were not in the box to  
which she had access.473 Subsequently, Ms. Thomas received a telephone call from  
Gaz Métro in which she was told that she had not passed the test.474 But no grade was  
supposed to be given on the practical test.  
[425] The second gathering was supposed to be a four-hour session on stress  
management. According to Shirley Thomas, it was more an evening of discussion  
among the candidates.475 Marie-Claude Côté added that the five women talked about  
their personal experiences in non-traditional environments and received no stress  
management training.476 On that occasion, Ms. Buzit-Beaulieu again notified the  
candidates that she was awaiting the result of negotiations between the CECM, the  
SQDM and Gaz Métro that were to culminate in supplementary training designed  
specifically for them.  
468 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 18, 2006 at 124-130.  
469 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 28-29.  
470 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 32.  
471 Raymond Bissonnette, stenographic notes, May 31, 2005 at 174.  
472 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 31.  
473 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 117.  
474 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 87.  
475 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 93.  
476 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 36.  
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[426] But there was no follow-up to that meeting. Tired of having no news, Ms. Côté  
contacted Carole Magnan, who told her that the pilot project had been abandoned.477 In  
the subsequent meeting between Ms. Côté, Ms. Magnan and ATF representatives in  
particular, a colleague of Ms. Magnan explained to Ms. Côté that Louise Buzit-Beaulieu  
was just an unpaid intern, not an employee of Gaz Métro, and that the pilot project was  
a personal initiative in the framework of her internship, not an activity directed by the  
company.478  
[427] The Tribunal believes that the idea underlying the aborted pilot project was quite  
positive and it could have met with success if it had been completed and included  
supplementary training for the women, as planned. The lack of oversight of the intern in  
charge of the project, the cavalier management of the general process (illustrated in  
particular by the deficient organization of the workshop devoted to stress management  
and the absence of notification of the principal people involved that the project had been  
abandoned)all those aspects make the project confusing and improvised, although it  
fueled the hopes of the participants, who were promised an golden opportunity to be  
reinstated in the selection process.479  
3.3.8 Conclusions regarding the selection process  
[428] Having reviewed each stage in the external selection process during the years at  
issue, the Tribunal will now focus on certain general elements or elements more  
generally related to the selection process. I will first return to the correlation between the  
duties, requirements and means of selection (3.3.8.1), followed by a discussion of the  
effects of the absence of criterion-related validation (3.3.8.2). I will then give my final  
conclusions. (3.3.8.3).  
3.3.8.1 Correlation between the duties, requirements and  
means of selection  
[429] As mentioned at the beginning of this examination of the external recruitment  
process,480 the selection instruments must be developed in accordance with the  
requirements for the job, which themselves must stem directly from the essential duties  
of the position. The requirements indicated in the recruitment notices and those  
measured throughout the selection process must be justified by the need to have those  
qualifications in order to perform the duties essential to the job.  
[430] According to the evidence in this case, there was no description of the essential  
duties of the position of network operator at the time of the facts at issue. So it was  
difficult for Gaz Métro to justify the requirements in job profile P-3, particularly since the  
477 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 38.  
478 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 42-43.  
479 See in particular Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 39-42.  
480 See section 3.2.1 supra for further explanations.  
   
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job of network operator was an entry-level position for which two years of internal  
training were planned. In turn, because of that situation, the selection tests could not be  
properly developed according to the essential duties of the position.  
[431] At the hearing, Carole Magnan mentioned that she herself and her colleagues  
were disappointed to see, after the special 1995 competition, that so few women had  
successfully completed the selection process. She explained that situation by the wide  
disparity between the basic qualifications required for the position of network operator  
and those of the women available on the job market.481 Like her colleagues, she did not  
further question the underlying causes of the women’s high rate of failure, which should  
have compelled them to take a critical look at Gaz Métro’s selection process and ways  
of doing things.  
[432] In addition, Carole Magnan, as well as Jean-Pierre Raymond and Sylvie Richard,  
often stressed the candidates’ capacity to learn, which, in this case, refers to their ability  
to complete the training given internally. Although success in that long training period  
depended greatly on that capacity, experts Boulard and Pettersen felt that Gaz Métro  
did not measure the candidates’ learning capacity.482  
3.3.8.2 Absence of criterion-related validation  
[433] As mentioned earlier, criterion-related validation is a special form of verification of  
the correlation between a candidate’s performance on a selection examination and his  
or her subsequent performance in training and on the job. The exercise makes it  
possible to evaluate the essential nature of the skills measured by the selection tools  
and to confirm or deny their true predictive value.483  
[434] Expert Normand Pettersen explained the purpose of criterion-related validation  
as follows:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[T]he idea is always the same: what is observed using the instrument, i.e. the  
candidates’ responses, must constitute a representative sample of the response  
they would have had on the job.  
[I]t is statistical validation in which the results using the measurement instrument  
and, then, once the people are hired, the results on the job are compared to see  
481 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 90-94.  
482 D-74, supra note 17 at 21; François Boulard, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 129 et seq.;  
Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 20. See also Robert Bédard,  
stenographic notes, January 25, 2006 at 138.  
483 D-74, supra note 17 at 5-6; François Boulard, stenographic notes, June 19, 2006 at 147-151;  
Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 10, 2006 at 164-165.  
 
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to what extent those who had good results using the instrument actually  
performed well once they were hired.484  
[435] Robert Bédard contended that he himself and his colleagues conducted such a  
validation, with the result that the selection tests were adequate because they reflected  
the level of success during training.485 But in reality, that exercise consisted in having  
three female service employees who were on the job take the examination in order to  
see how they would do and, depending on the case, whether adjustments were  
necessary.486  
[436] In his testimony, Mr. Pettersen also said Gaz Métro was concerned about  
verifying the correlation between the rate of success on the examinations and the  
training dispensed internally.487 Without a real criterion-related validation having been  
conducted by external experts, the company nevertheless administered a  
[TRANSLATION] “pre-test” to female service employees on the job in order to see  
whether adjustments to the practical examination were required before the examination  
was given to candidates for the position of network operator.488 According to him, the  
pre-test was not perfect or even completely suitable, but [TRANSLATION] “it was better  
than nothing” and [TRANSLATION] “not bad”.489  
[437] Expert Chantale Jeanrie emphasized that a criterion-related validation process  
involves an analysis beyond appearances. It is a complex and rigorous exercise that  
implies a strict comparison between the various elements of the selection examinations  
and the various elements of the position of network operator.490  
[438] Gaz Métro never gave an external mandate for the analysis of the selection  
process using the criterion-related validation method. When the company retained the  
services of Lucien Aubé in 1997, it was solely to verify the relevance of the theoretical  
examination; the special recruitment competitions were in fact already over. Carole  
Magnan confirmed that Gaz Métro never felt it was worthwhile to proceed with criterion-  
related validation of its recruitment process since the process was in the hands of  
internal [TRANSLATION] “specialists”, particularly Jean-Pierre Raymond and Robert  
Bédard.491 But Gaz Métro’s obligation in this case was to ensure that its selection  
process was discrimination-free. Informed of marked and chronic female under-  
representation in the position of network operator, coupled with the disproportionate  
rejection of female candidates, the company should have conducted an authentic  
criterion-related validation of its process.  
484 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, October 10, 2006 at 161, 164-165.  
485 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 285; Robert Bédard, stenographic notes,  
January 17, 2006 at 106.  
486 Robert Bédard, stenographic notes, January 16, 2006 at 285.  
487 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 13, 2006 at 150.  
488 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, September 14, 2006 at 166-167.  
489 Normand Pettersen, stenographic notes, 14 September 2006 at 169-170.  
490 Chantale Jeanrie, stenographic notes, February 15, 2005 at 71-73.  
491 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 94-95.  
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[439] Accordingly, no evidence makes it possible in this case to believe that a  
candidate who obtained 60%, 65% or 70% on an examination would necessarily have a  
performance superior to a candidate who failed. Given the scant data submitted to the  
Tribunal regarding the results of candidates on the tests versus those obtained in  
internal training, the correlation is uncertain, to say the least. Katia Laliberté obtained  
62% on the theoretical examination and 75% on the practical examination; whereas her  
training results were 97%. Monique Béland obtained 62.9% on the theoretical  
examination and 86.1% on the practical examination, but she obtained several grades  
above 90% in training, including 99%, and never had a grade below 79.6%. As regards  
Sylvie Lafleur, she had 68% on the theoretical examination and 75% on the practical  
examination in 1995 and 70.1% and 61.1% in 1996, while in training, her grades varied  
from 74.4% to 97.5%.492 Brigitte St-Cyr was hired in 1997 instead of Marie-Claude Côté  
because her results on the tests were slightly higher.493 Unfortunately, she failed the  
fourth training module and was therefore dismissed.  
[440] It is not by considering only the results of a few candidates that the Tribunal can  
weigh the consequences of the absence of criterion-related validation of the selection  
process. The Tribunal has said on several occasions that, since Gaz Métro did not see  
to that validation, it was hazardous to conclude that the company’s recruitment process  
could reliably predict the capacities of the candidates once they were on the job. Given  
the other factors explained earlier that ensured that certain selection stages  
disproportionately excluded women, the absence of validation reinforced the  
discriminatory elimination of the candidates and made it possible for a process that  
wrongly rejected them to continue.  
[441] The Tribunal also believes that that situation is connected with the great  
importance that Gaz Métro placed on the candidates’ profile, a criterion that even led  
the company to retroactively withdraw certain candidates from the selection process  
even though they had successfully completed the various stages.  
[442] Sylvie Richard actually admitted that a candidate could be excluded from the  
selection process at any time, i.e. withdrawn retroactively following a decision stemming  
from the interview.494 As regards the special competition in July 1995, roughly a dozen  
women were withdrawn from the process because of a [TRANSLATION] “hesitation  
about the profile”.495 Some of them had passed the theoretical examination, some had  
even passed the practical examination, before being rejected.496 Ms. Richard  
acknowledged that using a [TRANSLATION] “hesitation about the profile” as a reason to  
492 P-77, supra note 412.  
493 See D-60, supra note 436; Jean-Pierre Raymond, stenographic notes, February 7, 2006 at 101-104.  
494 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 91.  
495 P-6, supra note 288.  
496 P-6, supra note 288; Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 91-95.  
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reject a candidate was in itself much more subjective than relying, for example, on the  
results of the theoretical examination.497  
[443] Gaz Métro actually invoked a hesitation about Marie-Claude Côté’s learning  
capacity in an attempt to justify its refusal to hire her in 1997, despite her having passed  
the various stages in the selection process. However, the Tribunal concluded that the  
evidence showed preponderantly that Ms. Côté’s rejection was based instead on her  
pregnancy, of which the employer was informed in light of the restrictions accompanying  
the medical declaration of her aptitude to carry on the employment of network operator.  
3.3.8.3 Final conclusions regarding the selection process  
[444] Already weak because of the absence of a correlation between the duties of the  
job, the requirements formulated and the means of selection, Gaz Métro’s selection  
process was also contaminated by subjectivity, arbitrariness and a broad power of  
discretion by the main employees of the company assigned to it. These elements,  
combined with the under-representation of women in blue-collar jobs, particularly in the  
position of network operator, biases regarding the presence of women in a context of  
non-traditional employment and the incompetence of the people responsible for  
recruiting women in the special competitions, fueled and maintained a recruitment  
system tainted by discrimination toward women.  
[445] The Charter asks us to ensure the recognition and concrete exercise of a true  
right to equality for women, embodied particularly in an egalitarian hiring system where  
an employer’s policies, requirements or decisions do not have a more negative impact  
on women and do not exclude them disproportionately. Hence, in order not to  
perpetuate the discriminatory system of recruitment for the position of network operator  
at Gaz Métro, the mechanics of the system, in which is interwoven the policies,  
decisions and behaviours contributing to its maintenance, must be demonstrated.  
3.4 Gaz Métro’s institutional culture  
[446] Let us briefly recall that systemic discrimination toward women in employment is  
the result of the application of established methods, practices and policies of  
recruitment and hiring that are not designed to promote discrimination but that, because  
of the under-representation of women in certain workplaces, are characterized by the  
absence of consideration of their point of view, experience and characteristics.  
Discrimination is then maintained through an institutional culture permeated with biases,  
prejudices and unconscious stereotypes that favour the people already in the workplace  
and gear candidate selection toward people similar to those already holding the job,  
thereby perpetuating the exclusion of people who have not had an opportunity to  
penetrate the workplace.  
497 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 95.  
   
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[447] Having concluded that, in the special recruitment competition held from 1995 to  
1997, Gaz Métro did not sufficiently adapt its selection process, which was basically  
designed to deal with employment applications by male candidates, I will now examine  
certain established practices during that period in order to determine whether they were  
more broadly in keeping with an organizational culture that was or was not conducive to  
the recruitment of women for the position of network operator, traditionally held by men.  
3.4.1 Prevailing models  
[448] Gaz Métro’s organizational culture, particularly in regard to network operators,  
was homogeneous because it was essentially male. That situation is explained by the  
very small number of women who held that job and was apparent in both the actions  
and words of the managers, trainees (apprentices or graduates), trainer-evaluators and  
human resource department personnel.  
[449] Whether they were men or women, they were all systematically trained by their  
predecessors in the image of employees already working there, in order to perpetuate  
the same ways of doing things. Closely supervised, they had to absorb the  
organizational culture transmitted by their superiors in order to advance. Robert Bédard,  
trainer-examiner, in fact referred to Gaz Métro’s [TRANSLATION] “oral tradition” and  
[TRANSLATION] “big family”. Carole Magnan said the following in her testimony:  
[TRANSLATION]  
We know we are investing in those people for a long period of training for the job,  
and realize that, once they are in the system, they apply for other positions. But  
experience shows that they apply for and obtain other jobs on the basis of their  
qualifications. There are no … at Gaz Métro, people don’t leave. We don’t have  
very high turnover. So it is important that we verify … ensure that people are well  
aware of what they face when they come to Gaz Métro for network-type jobs.498  
[450] Ms. Magnan mentioned that, until 1995, [TRANSLATION] “ninety percent (90%)  
of CSN positions were filled internally”.499 The practice provided for in the collective  
agreement negotiated between Gaz Métro and the Syndicat according to which vacant  
network operator positions first had to be offered [TRANSLATION] “internally” to  
employees, almost all male, who were members of the CSN-certified unit, was also in  
keeping with that spirit.  
[451] According to the evidence submitted to the Tribunal, the different treatment of  
these potential candidates gave them some advantages over others outside the  
company. For example, network operator positions to be filled were posted in that unit  
for a longer period of time than externally.500 Because they were assumed to have the  
profile sought, candidates from that unit were also exempt from the obligation to  
undergo an interview, on the basis of which they could be disqualified. Lastly, the  
498 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 268-269.  
499 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 174.  
500 See section 3.1.1.  
 
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question arises as to what extent they were likely to know the content of the  
examinations (practical and theoretical) by communicating with other candidates  
working in the company who had taken them and with network operators on the job.  
[452] In that regard, the Tribunal notes the opinion of Ms. Boukamp Bosch, who  
believed that, even though that practice negotiated between Gaz Métro and the  
Syndicat was adopted to their mutual satisfaction, it still perpetuated male  
predominance in network operator jobs. She believed that was why, in this context, the  
employer had to focus its efforts on external recruitment, in order to remedy the weak  
representation of women.  
[453] Internal recruitment of network operators proved to be an ideal way to hire  
people similar to those already employed and to ensure the maintenance of a  
homogeneous environment. That situation can, in turn, unconsciously fuel the belief that  
there is only one proper way to perform the duties of the job, and that only candidates  
from the dominant group and those who succeed by the same means can fully meet the  
requirements of the position.  
[454] The letter of understanding signed with the Syndicat in order to set aside  
positions for women and visible minorities on a priority basis in fact provided that the  
practice [TRANSLATION] “in no way call into question the qualification criterion, which  
is paramount, and will not result in lower requirements for anyone”. Questioned about  
the scope of that aspect of the agreement, Ms. Magnan said the following:  
[TRANSLATION]  
It was applied so as to respect the fact that the male or female candidates hired  
would have passed the stages in the selection process as provided for in the  
program and the collective agreements. In that sense, there was no question of  
our reducing in anyway respect for that agreement. …  
It was agreed with the union people that it was not a question of lowering the  
requirements. In fact, with all the women we might deal with, no one wanted to  
find herself in a situation in which a perception would be created that they had  
obtained the position because they were women, without consideration for their  
qualifications.501  
[455] The Tribunal noted the correlation established at Gaz Métro between a measure  
consisting in adapting a hiring standard according to the needs of an excluded group  
and a lowering of occupational standards for members of that group. This is apparent  
from the response given by Carole Magnan when cross-examined:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Q-  
In your opinion, would allowing network trainees to obtain their driver’s  
licence during their training period mean a lowering of the requirement?  
501 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 260.  
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licences at the same time when they were appointed. In our opinion, that  
was a lowering of the requirements.502  
[456] That erroneous understanding of the nature of reasonable accommodation  
measures means that the inequality invoked here in regard to women is in fact purely  
formal inequality, as opposed to real inequality. The approach chosen consisted in  
treating these people in a manner identical to that of the members of the dominant  
group and it impeded reasonable accommodation practices that would enable the  
employer to avail itself of the diversity and richness of complementary qualifications.  
[457] In that regard, the Tribunal notes the testimony of expert witness Karen Messing,  
who emphasized the extent to which the absence of women in certain traditionally male  
environments makes it difficult to identify adaptation measures to be taken to promote  
women’s integration. Women are in the best position to develop ways of performing a  
non-traditional task in a manner adapted to their physiology, which, in return, enables  
the employer to acquire knowledge useful to accommodating them.  
[458] Because of differences (genetic and environmental in origin) between men and  
women, women can develop ways of performing a task that differ from those of men  
and are better adapted to their morphology and psychology. The more freedom women  
have to develop, use and transmit that knowledge, the better they will succeed in  
performing the tasks.503  
[459] Designed to select male candidates, the written and practical examinations in the  
selection process were not adapted for other groups likely to have characteristics that  
differed from those of the dominant group. The questions taken from the Bennett test  
were retained despite the caveat in the instruction manual about their negative effects  
on women.504 The gloves and tools supplied to women in the practical tests were those  
used by men, despite the women’s different morphology. Robert Bédard, trainer-  
evaluator, explained, in all good faith, that the examinations were exactly the same for  
everyone, for the sake of honesty.  
[460] The video screened during the information sessions in June 1995 twice  
mentioned [TRANSLATION] “the guys on the team”, indicating to the women from the  
start the homogeneous composition of the work environment. Jean-Pierre Raymond did  
not change his words of welcome and candidly admitted that his joke about  
[TRANSLATION] “underwear” remained the same, whether he was talking to men or  
women. In his comments, he pointed out the difficulties encountered by the sole woman  
who held the position of network operator and the importance of [TRANSLATION]  
“being part of the gang”. Given that, it was expected that the women would act like men  
502 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 182.  
503 A-6, supra note 15 at 13.  
504 A-17, supra note 359 at 30. See also section 3.3.4.3 for an analysis of that issue.  
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when their aptitudes were evaluated and in regard to the attitudes of the dominant  
group.  
[461] Those unconscious biases and those attitudes fueled the conviction that only  
women able to reproduce the same behaviour and ways of doing things as those of the  
dominant male group could make a positive contribution to the health of the company.  
That organizational culture was even communicated to the outside intervening parties  
that dealt with Gaz Métro. For example, although his comments on the availability pool  
contradict that reasoning, consultant and expert witness Normand Pettersen explained  
the lower rate of recruitment of women by the employer’s difficulty in finding qualified  
candidates.  
[462] In that context, it appears wholly normal to ensure that the women eventually  
hired be able to adapt to the dominant culture. The search for female candidates with  
the [TRANSLATION] “job profile” is entirely consistent with that viewpoint.  
3.4.2 Candidate profile sought  
[463] The under-representation of women in the position of network operator at Gaz  
Métro also affected the type of female candidates sought in the special recruitment  
process, as the employer essentially targeted candidates with characteristics largely  
similar, at first glance, to those of male employees holding the job or at least female  
candidates likely to easily integrate a male work environment. In other words, since the  
employer was satisfied with the work performed by a very homogeneous labour pool, it  
was difficult for it to evaluate how other types of employees could perform in a similar  
manner. In the absence of concrete or conclusive data on the impact of diversification of  
its personnel, it sought to recruit new employees [TRANSLATION] “in the image” of  
those on the job or assumed to be able to readily adapt to the characteristics of the  
dominant environment.  
[464] According to the evidence adduced before the Tribunal, the female candidates  
whose CVs or job applications did not mention any experience in a non-traditional  
employment sector were automatically excluded from the recruitment process for the  
position of network operator.505 That was so, according to Ms. Richard, because  
[TRANSLATION] “[a] person who demonstrated no experience or training in a non-  
traditional sector, as limited as it may have been, could have great difficulty passing the  
theoretical or practical examination.506 But, as that witness acknowledged, candidates  
invited to take the two examinations passed them but were still rejected because of a  
[TRANSLATION] “hesitation about the profile”. Furthermore:  
[TRANSLATION]  
A. That’s why candidates were told that the choice was based on a mix of the  
interview, the profile and the theoretical and practical examinations. …  
505 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 193.  
506 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 91.  
 
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hesitation about the profile, would you agree that they have a subjective  
element?  
A. Yes.  
Q. Yes.  
A. Yes. Always according to the profile.  
Q. Always according to the profile. And that was certainly more subjective and  
much more subjective than a written examination. Would you agree?  
A. It goes without saying.507  
[465] In addition, as the Tribunal noted earlier, during the pre-interview in particular,  
non-traditional experience deemed relevant was interpreted very restrictively, being  
limited in practice to the work identified in job description P-3 or to experience similar to  
that of male employees in the position.508  
[466] According to Sylvie Richard, the purpose of the pre-interview specifically  
introduced at the beginning of the recruitment process in 1995 was to enable  
candidates to provide more information for their files and to ascertain whether they had  
[TRANSLATION] “the profile” to hold the position of network operator. From that  
standpoint, question 6, asked only of women,509 very particularly sought to measure  
their capacity to deal with a homogeneous environment composed of male blue-collar  
workers. The [TRANSLATION] ‘”right” response was that of a female candidate capable  
of humour and flexibility, qualities that Ms. Richard emphasized, because the candidate  
would be more likely to become part of and integrate, even [TRANSLATION] “blend  
into”, the homogeneous environment without too much friction or too many rough  
patches. The [TRANSLATION] “wrong” response, on the other hand, was if the  
candidate said the employer was solely responsible for her successful integration:510  
Q. I am going to ask more specifically why it takes a sense of humour to  
integrate a male environment.  
A. I would say that’s a small part of what we were talking about this morning,  
regarding flexibility. You have to know … I think it would be difficult for  
someone to integrate a male environment who was always in a bad mood or  
who would be shocked at the least little thing. You really do need a sense of  
humour.511  
[467] Considered by expert Normand Pettersen as a realistic warning about the  
situation that the women hired would have to face, question 6 should have, according to  
Denise Perron, been asked at the end of the selection process as a support tool for the  
women. Chantale Jeanrie recommended that it simply be withdrawn because of the  
problems mentioned.  
507 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 94-95.  
508 See section 3.3.3.3.  
509 Remember that it was worded as follows: “According to you, how can a women integrate well into a  
non-traditional (male) environment?”. P-8: evaluation checklist.  
510 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 84 et seq.  
511 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 215.  
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[468] Specific responses were also expected regarding stressful situations and the  
presence of children in the home. The company believed that women could not comply  
with the schedule because of family constraints and that they would have to take out-of-  
place jokes and stressful situations with a sense of humour, in addition to being  
empathetic and flexible with their male co-workers. Those requirements were not,  
however, applied to men; it seemed unacceptable to force the dominant group to  
change its behaviour. Here again, the approach was one of formal equality in that an  
attempt was made to [TRANSLATION] “fit” different people into the existing system on  
the basis of an unconscious belief in the superiority of the dominant group to which the  
minority group necessarily had to adapt.  
[469] That situation recalls the opinion of Denise Perron:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Women who integrate a non-traditional work environment face many learning  
situations and still find it difficult to have to demonstrate to certain co-workers or  
immediate superiors that they have all the qualifications required to perform their  
work.  
In theory, that should not be so. Women do not have to have a greater sense of  
humour than men. They do not have to demonstrate day after day that they  
manage stress better than their male co-workers. They do not have to perform  
better.512  
[470] The Tribunal also notes from the evidence the contradictory expectations of the  
interviewers, who anticipated that the women would first rely on their personal  
resources in order to deal with a male work environment and then indicate the way they  
would like to be supported by the company in the event of difficulty.513  
3.4.3 Organizational dimension of the special recruitment  
competition  
[471] As recognized beginning in the late 1980s, in the wake of the Abella report on  
equality in employment and of the ruling in Action Travail des femmes, the  
implementation of hiring measures to counter the under-representation of women in  
traditionally male employment environments requires the energetic mobilization of all  
the parties concerned (employer, union and employees), not to mention the decisive  
contribution and the exemplary value of the involvement of the company’s senior  
management. Because of the complexity and multiple factors contributing to the  
maintenance of systemic discrimination, the elimination of the under-representation of  
women requires a firm determination to combat it on the part of top management, which  
must send a clear message to all levels of the company in that regard and assign  
professional resources that are competent in the field.  
512 D-80, supra note 96 at 15.  
513 See section 3.3.3.3.  
 
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[472] The evidence accepted by the tribunal of first instance in the AFT case is  
eloquent on the subject. In its ruling, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal cited  
excerpts from the Boyle/Kirkman report, an exhaustive study of the under-  
representation of women in Canadian National’s blue-collar jobs, conducted in the early  
1970s, at the request of the company’s senior management. According to the report, the  
“lack of definitive executive management commitment” constituted one of the specific  
areas targeted by the recommendations made:  
The majority of CN managers have established their priorities in the order in  
which they feel their performance will ultimately be measured, i. e. a reflection of  
their interpretation of top management’s concerns. Allotting time and energy from  
their busy schedules to manage their people properly and to provide special  
attention to eliminate discrimination against women have not been viewed as  
integral components of their jobs and, therefore, do not receive the necessary  
attention.  
The Executive management of CN is committed to equal opportunity for all  
people. The commitment alone, however, is not sufficient to accomplish  
significant results in the area of women. …  
Clearly, top management must recognize that the motivation to change must be  
created through executive directive.  
Specifically, CN executive management needs to:  
1. Get involved in demonstrating their commitment and in measuring their  
managers on progress against pre-set goals.  
2. Require that each major department define their own specific problems;  
develop detailed programs for solving them; and set concrete targets for line  
managers to achieve.514  
[473] That aspect of the evidence probably contributed to the conclusion reached by  
the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal that Canadian National had established hiring  
practices at the root of the complaint of systemic discrimination, filed in December 1981,  
knowing their exclusionary effect on women:  
We have already shown, at the beginning of this judgment, that Canadian  
National knew several years before the complaint was filed that its hiring  
practices had a negative effect on the employment of women and that women  
were under-represented at Canadian National compared with their general  
employment situation. Yet Canadian National continued these hiring practices,  
knowing their consequences. The proclamation of the Canadian Human Rights  
Act, which did not take Canadian National by surprise, as can be seen from the  
testimony in the proceeding, has not resulted in any marked changes in its hiring  
practices.  
514 The AFT case, supra note 35, para. 19610 at D/2335.  
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that the hiring practices being challenged by Action Travail des Femmes were  
purely accidental.515  
[474] In the case at bar, Denise Perron also stressed the importance of the  
commitment by senior management to the implementation of measures to foster the  
equality of women employed in non-traditional positions:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Practice has shown that, in companies generally, the integration of women in  
non-traditional jobs requires a major investment by women, employers, unions,  
supervisors and co-workers.  
The testimony showed that, as early as 1985, the process of integrating women  
into non-traditional jobs (where less than one third of the work force was female)  
required changes in mentality and attitudes among the different socioeconomic  
partners and women themselves …  
Women who seek non-traditional blue-collar jobs often need specific support to  
help them clear the obstacles that their male co-workers do not encounter.516  
[475] At Gaz Métro, Sylvie Richard and Jean-Pierre Raymond played a very active  
rolein fact a decisive onein the operational implementation of the agreement  
reached with the union for the recruitment of women on a priority basis for the position  
of network operator. Carole Magnan, who was more involved in planning the  
intervention and saw that measures were deployed to meet, in particular, the hiring  
objective of October 2, 1995, indicated the following:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Any organization of the staffing process was managed by the advisor responsible  
for the position, like any recruitment process she had to manage.517  
[476] But before the special recruitment in 1995, Ms. Richard did secretariat work  
involving statistics. She advanced in the company and became a staffing officer, and in  
1995, a staffing advisor. At the time, her training in selecting personnel boiled down to a  
course lasting a few days, taken at the École des hautes études commerciales and a  
human resource management certificate she did not complete.518 As for Mr. Raymond,  
who saw to the development of the position of network operator over the years and was  
well aware of its components, he was not always present during the interviews. If he  
was, his role was rather passive.  
[477] Furthermore, despite their good faith, Ms. Richard and Mr. Raymond had a very  
different understanding of the purpose of the candidates’ interviews. In short, for one of  
them, it was a matter of becoming acquainted with the [TRANSLATION] “clientele” and  
515 Ibid. at paras. 19776 and 19777 at D/2373.  
516 D-80, supra note 96 at 11.  
517 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 235.  
518 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 189.  
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for the other, of enabling women to demonstrate their prior experience.519 Given that,  
the Tribunal finds it hazardous, to say the least, for a large-scale process of pre-  
interviews to be undertaken without even clarifying their underlying objective.  
[478] The interview checklist used was prepared in 1992 by Ms. Richard, who also  
designed her own summary sheet.520 The Tribunal stressed earlier the inconsistency of  
the marks attributed to different candidates, not to mention the irregularity of the notes  
taken about them.521 It will also be recalled that, according to Chantale Jeanrie, the two  
items did not correspond to any recognized form of interview, whereas according to  
Louis Laurencelle, the risk of error was increased because of the absence of explicitly  
anticipated responses in the interview summary.  
[479] During the special recruitment from 1995 to 1997, certain initiatives were also set  
up, then withdrawn, without assessment or a true analysis of the factors likely to explain  
their mitigated success. For example, the initial steps taken with organizations working  
with women looking for employment and the information sessions preceding the  
submission of candidacies were both rapidly abandoned, despite their potential.  
[480] The Tribunal also recalls the reinstatement, beginning in 1996, of the  
requirement that the candidate hold a class 3 driver’s licence no later than the time the  
candidacy was submitted. Here again, it was quite simply preferred to return to the  
condition applied in the past rather than analyse the factors likely to explain the  
candidates’ difficulty in complying with the additional time period granted in the June  
1995 recruitment,522 whereas an evaluation would probably have led to a search for a  
reasonable accommodation measure.  
[481] Moreover, after the 1995 recruitment, the interview held prior to the  
examinations, an interview whichneed it be repeatedcould be disqualifying, was  
eliminated.523 Judging that the interview was not conclusive, Gaz Métro decided to go  
back to [TRANSLATION] “the old method”, which consisted in giving access to the  
examinations after an analysis of the CV in order to ascertain [TRANSLATION]  
“whether the person had a minimum of experience or training in non-traditional work”.524  
Here again, the employer quickly returned to the prior practice, which was not, however,  
very satisfactory from the standpoint of hiring women for the position of network  
operator.  
[482] Furthermore, students hired for the summer were often responsible for archiving  
the files and the evidence showed deficient identification of the archive boxes and  
519 See section 3.3.3.1 in that regard.  
520 P-47: staff evaluation checklist used.  
521 See section 3.3.3.2.  
522 Note that the candidates were allowed an additional period of time to obtain a class 3 driver’s licence,  
i.e. by the date of their hiring rather than the date they submitted their candidacy.  
523 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 17, 2006 at 83-84.  
524 Sylvie Richard, stenographic notes, February 9, 2006 at 193.  
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botched management of the CVs received during the special recruitment competition,  
which made it more difficult for Gaz Métro to know where it stood in regard to its  
objectives, while keeping a bank of potential candidates. In her testimony, Ms. Magnan  
actually acknowledged that [TRANSLATION] “the people assigned to that work … were  
minimally supervised. … hence, the system was more or less organized and orderly”.525  
[483] And what about the pilot project under the supervision of Louise Buzit-Beaulieu?  
Despite the interest of the approach initially planned, the lack of supervision of the  
temporary intern and the abandonment of the training activities initially planned, without  
adequately informing the participants, reflect a degree of improvisation and, all things  
considered, a lack of interest on the part of management in an activity that nonetheless  
nurtured the hopes of candidates who wanted to be reinstated in the selection process.  
Several years later, those who took part in the experience remain bitter. Marie-Claude  
Côté said that, after the stress management workshop, she tried to contact Gaz Métro  
several times, without success, in order to find out when the training sessions would  
begin:  
[TRANSLATION]  
A. No one called me. Nothing happened. So I was worried. I called, I called and I  
called. It was always the same news. They were waiting, they were waiting.  
Q. Um-hum.  
A. Then, … the last time I called, I was transferred to Carole Magnan. Ms.  
Magnan told me that the pilot project would not go forward and that, in any  
case, the examinations had to be passed in order to be hired by Gaz  
Métropolitain.526  
[484] Having failed the theoretical examination a second time after the pilot project was  
cancelled, Ms. Côté said the following about why she then participated in a meeting at  
Gaz Métro:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Well, I so wanted to tell them that we were not numbers and that … they  
shouldn’t set up fake pilot projects, then … you know? I wanted to go tell them,  
you know, that I was a human being and that … you know?527  
[485] Furthermore, despite the laudable intentions of the Gaz Métro staff assigned to  
the special recruitment competition, the Tribunal notes its lack of knowledge and, above  
all, its lack of competence in finding the causes of the known and chronic female under-  
representation among blue-collar workers, particularly in the position of network  
operator, and the means to overcome it. In the Tribunal’s opinion, the lack of  
competence of the staff responsible for the recruitment competition explains, at least in  
part, the amateur way in which the project was conducted.  
525 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 234.  
526 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 37-38.  
527 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 42.  
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[486] Moreover, despite Ms. Magnan’s comment that [TRANSLATION] “top  
management was always given a yearly presentation on the annual report, they always  
supported us in developing results associated with the equity program”,528 the Tribunal  
notes that Gaz Métro’s top executives were markedly absent from the process, and  
even during the trial, which also contributed to the mitigated results of the recruitment  
process.  
[487] The Gaz Métro staff members summoned to testify before the Tribunal were, for  
the most part, technicians, secretaries, a secretary promoted to the position of advisor,  
a former intern, a manager and a director. No high-level manager established the  
company’s determination to remedy the under-representation of women in blue-collar  
jobs or confirmed that such intentions were the reason for the special recruitment  
competition.  
[488] In the company’s top management, responsibility for implementing the program  
essentially rested with Carole Magnan, of the human resources department. In her  
testimony, she was unable to name any rigorous or systematic means deployed to  
mobilize other managers, directors or executives for the special recruitment competition.  
Rather, she said she did not want to shake things up and adopted an [TRANSLATION]  
“inch-by-inch” approach:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[W]e had decided on a strategy of providing regular information without, however,  
shaking things up. I would say our approach was more “inch-by-inch”; we wanted  
to work gradually on the issue of equal access and beliefs.529  
[489] Testifying about her collaboration with the CSN’s committee on the status of  
women, Ms. Magnan indicated that work had to be done [TRANSLATION] “behind the  
scenes” because otherwise, women would have been [TRANSLATION] “singled out”,  
which, to her mind, would have resulted in reprisals:  
[TRANSLATION]  
We were also working with them [the CSN committee] behind the scenes, I would  
say. I won’t hide the fact that women in non-traditional work are not necessarily—  
I think it is the same everywhere in other fields as wellinterested in being  
singled out because they expose work situations in which they might be isolated,  
bullied or anything else.530  
[490] Furthermore, although the human resources department staff members were  
impatiently awaiting the women’s grades on the selection examinations and despite the  
testimony of Carole Magnan regarding the disappointment with their high rate of failure,  
the evidence at the hearing showed that the search for appropriate remedial measures  
was rather deficient. In cross-examination, Ms. Magnan mentioned that, in 1989, Gaz  
528 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 204; see also, to the same effect, the  
stenographic notes of April 19, 2006 at 14-15.  
529 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 165.  
530 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 18, 2006 at 203-204.  
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Métro acknowledged the need to validate the selection examinations and criteria, as a  
way to correct various hiring rules and practices.531 But it was only in 1997 that, to that  
end, the employer used the services of Lucien Aubé, whose validation exerciseneed it  
be repeated—was not conducted according to the candidates’ sex:  
A. In ninety-five (‘95), we found that the exercise conducted by Mr. Raymond  
and Mr. Bédard in ninety-two (‘92), the involvement of Mr. Charbonneau in  
the matter, the involvement of our internal experts, the overhaul of the  
examinations, the seriousness of the analysis, the caveats regarding our  
intentions, the notion of accuracy and the notion of validity meant that we  
believed our examinations truly evaluated … We believed that the  
examinations were valid and that we did not need to validate them. They  
were not evaluated by outside people; they were revised by our internal  
experts. I would say our specialists, rather than our experts, our specialists.  
Q. So there was no need for validation?  
A. That’s right.532  
[491] So despite a written agreement and Gaz Métro’s talk affirming its determination  
to significantly increase female staff in the position of network operator, in the final  
analysis many major shortcomings in the special recruitment competition raised doubts  
about the importance that the company actually gave the operation, which essentially  
contributed to maintaining the disproportionate exclusion of women from the position of  
network operator.  
SECTION 4. REMEDIAL MEASURES  
[492] A number of candidates mentioned before the Tribunal that they found Gaz  
Métro’s selection process to be an abnormally long ordeal, strewn with encouragements  
and false hopes so that they would undertake and pursue an approach that was, to all  
intents and purposes, destined to fail. Some of them invested years of preparation and  
additional schooling in order to, year after year, take in vain examinations that never  
enabled them to obtain the position of network operator.  
[493] Having concluded that various aspects of Gaz Métro’s recruitment process were  
discriminatory and that, more broadly, its institutional culture was coloured by biases  
and unconscious prejudices unfavourable to women, the Tribunal must now determine  
the appropriate remedies in the circumstances.  
[494] In contrast to many cases of so-called “direct” or “indirect” discrimination,  
remedial measures for situations of systemic discrimination include, in addition to  
measures imposed in favour of each victim personally, certain orders aimed at  
correcting the effects of the disproportionate exclusion of a group by targeting the  
structural and institutional aspects at the root of that type of discrimination. By referring  
531 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 96-97. The witness was referring to Exhibit P-  
24 at 20.  
532 Carole Magnan, stenographic notes, April 20, 2006 at 95.  
 
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to examples drawn from the jurisprudence, I will illustrate hereinafter the main principles  
applicable in that area and will first focus on orders of a systemic nature (4.1), then on  
individual remedial measures (4.2).  
4.1  
Orders of a systemic nature  
[495] The characteristics of systemic discrimination call for remedies consistent with its  
multiple and wholly specific causes. In Action Travail des Femmes,533 the Supreme  
Court established the following:  
[I]n attempting to combat systemic discrimination, it is essential to look to the  
past patterns of discrimination and to destroy those patterns in order to prevent  
the same type of discrimination in the future. …  
MacGuigan J. [of the Federal Court of Appeal] stressed in his dissent that “the  
prevention of systemic discrimination will reasonably be thought to require  
systemic remedies”….534  
4.1.1 Imposing an affirmative action program  
[496] Evidence of a situation of systemic discrimination gives rise to the establishment  
of affirmative action programs (hereinafter referred to as “AAPs”), under which it is  
possible to hire, on a priority basis, people from the disproportionately excluded group  
and to pursue a dual objective. If a standard favourable to the victim group must be  
temporarily imposed in order to erase a distinctive situation,535 it is also paramount that  
remedial measures not target solely the elimination of specific practices at the root of  
the discriminatory effects but also their structural, organizational and functional  
components.  
[497] The generally involuntary nature of systemic discrimination has led Canadian  
tribunals to recognize the need “to refer to historical patterns of discrimination in order to  
design appropriate strategies for the future”.536 As Dickson J. said:  
To render future discrimination pointless, to destroy discriminatory stereotyping  
and to create the required “critical mass” of target group participation in the work  
force, it is essential to combat the effects of past systemic discrimination. In  
doing so, possibilities are created for the continuing amelioration of employment  
opportunities for the previously excluded group. … Specific hiring goals … are a  
rational attempt to impose a systemic remedy on a systemic problem.537  
533 Action Travail des Femmes, supra note 27.  
534 Ibid at 1145.  
535 Commission scolaire des Samares v. Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse, [2000] R.J.Q. 2542 (C.A.).  
536 Action Travail des Femmes, supra note 27 at 1141, citing MacGuigan J. in his Federal Court of  
Appeal dissenting opinion.  
537 Ibid. at 1145; emphasis added.  
   
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[498] In Québec, the rules for the establishment and deployment of AAPs are set forth  
in Part III of the Charter. Such programs can be established “in employment, or in the  
sector of education or of health services and other services generally available to the  
public”.538  
[499] If proof is adduced before a tribunal of “the situation of persons belonging to  
groups discriminated against in employment,539 the Commission can seek to “obtain,  
within the time fixed by the tribunal, an order to devise and implement [an affirmative  
action] program. The program thus devised is filed with the tribunal which may, in  
accordance with the Charter, make the modifications it considers appropriate”.540  
[500] The provisions of the Charter are supplemented by the Regulation respecting  
Affirmative Action Programs541 (hereinafter referred to as the “Regulation”), which  
provides for their main components in more detail, including the following:  
(1)  
(2)  
(3)  
(4)  
the objectives sought in regard to the greater representation of target  
group members;  
the steps required to remedy the effects of an observed discriminatory  
situation;  
a time-table for attaining the objectives and implementing the measures  
proposed to that end;  
the control mechanisms that would allow for assessing progress made  
and problems encountered in carrying out the program and for  
determining any required adjustments.542  
[501] According to the Regulation, the objectives of an AAP are established taking into  
consideration, among other things, an analysis of staff, availability and, more broadly,  
the employment procedures in the undertaking, with a view to identifying:  
the rules, directives, policies, decisions, contracts, agreements and the like, as  
well as the way they are applied, which though apparently neutral have a  
discriminatory effect in the management of the undertaking, without being  
necessary for purpose of security or administrative efficiency.543  
[502] It is particularly in that context that the procedures and requirements for  
recruitment, promotion and transfer, the working conditions, and the training and  
upgrading in a company are scrutinized.  
538 Charter, s. 86.  
539 Ibid; emphasis added.  
540 Charter, s. 88.  
541 Regulation respecting Affirmative Action Programs, R.Q. c. C-12, r.0.1.  
542 Ibid. s. 2.  
543 Ibid. ss. 3 et seq.  
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[503] The measures deemed necessary to correct the effects of systemic  
discrimination include equal opportunity measures designed to eliminate the  
discriminatory practices in the company’s management and corrective measures that,  
with a view to eliminating the effects of discrimination against a group of people,  
“temporarily accord … certain preferences to its members”.544  
[504] An employer to which an AAP applies must fulfil certain specific obligations: (1)  
make its employees aware of the various types of measures adopted; (2) entrust  
responsibility for implementing the program to an employee in a position of authority;  
and (3) file with the Commission an annual report explaining all the activities initiated in  
that context, the progress made, the problems encountered and any changes it would  
like to see in the program.545  
[505] The Charter gives the Commission the power to supervise the administration of  
such programs.546 In the event that one of the parties refuses to abide by the program  
or new facts require modifications to the established program, the Commission can  
apply to a tribunal to issue executory orders in that regard:  
91. A program contemplated in section 88 may be modified, postponed or  
cancelled if new facts warrant it.  
If the Commission and the person required or having consented to implement the  
affirmative action program agree on its modification, postponement or  
cancellation, the agreement shall be evidenced in writing.  
Failing agreement, either party may request the tribunal to which the commission  
has applied pursuant to the second paragraph of section 88 to decide whether  
the new facts warrant the modification, postponement or cancellation of the  
program.  
All modifications must conform to the Charter.  
[506] In Commission scolaire des Samares, the Court of Appeal concluded that, once  
the Human Rights Tribunal is seized by the Commission of an initial request to  
implement such a program, the Tribunal, whose jurisdiction in that regard is provided for  
in section 111 of the Charter, is the only authority empowered to settle disputes  
stemming from the program’s application or decide whether new facts require  
modifications:  
[TRANSLATION]  
[T]he rule is simple: The Tribunal initially seized of the matter settles the  
subsequent problems. … The Human Rights Tribunal was created in 1990, at a  
time when the implementation of an affirmative action program was permitted,  
even by judicial means. At that time, the courts of general law were the only ones  
with jurisdiction to dispose of requests for remedies made by the Commission  
544 Ibid. s. 7.  
545 Ibid. ss. 9-11.  
546 Charter, s. 89.  
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legislator added a specialized judicial tribunal that, as a general rule, can be  
seized of a matter only by the Commission. … for a ruling to be made regarding  
a disagreement, the employer is obliged to accept the forum chosen by the  
Commission des droits de la personne at the time of the request for  
implementation of the affirmative action program.547  
[507] The Court of Appeal stressed in these terms the particular logic of the system  
provided for by the legislator, who:  
[TRANSLATION]  
… wanted and permitted the adjustment of orders as the situation of employees  
and modifications in the state or condition of the employer concerned evolved.  
That special legislative regime is, we note, a form of structural injunction, a  
remedy according to which the judge monitors the application of his or her orders  
and modifies them at times so that they achieve the ultimate remedial objective  
sought.548  
[508] Thus, that legislative empowerment allows the Tribunal to remain seized of a  
case in which it ordered the implementation of an AAP, so that it can ascertain whether  
the program abides by the requirements of the Charter at the time it is submitted, and  
can modify, postpone or cancel it on the basis of new facts.  
[509] In Action Travail des Femmes, the sole question before the Supreme Court  
concerned the legality of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal order. According to the  
order, it was essential to impose an AAP on Canadian National so that the proportion of  
women working in blue-collar jobs in that company would reflect at least approximately  
the proportion (13%) of those holding similar jobs in the country as a whole. To achieve  
that, the Canadian Tribunal had ordered the employer to set aside for women 25% of  
the non-traditional positions to be filled in the future, during each quarter, until the  
objective of 13% women was reached in that type of employment.  
[510] The Supreme Court believed that those temporary preferential hiring measures  
fostered the creation of a critical mass of female employees from the group whose  
members were disproportionately excluded, thereby counteracting the cumulative  
effects of the systemic discrimination and the biases underlying it. The Supreme Court  
concluded that the order was lawful.  
[511] The Canadian Tribunal had also ordered Canadian National to implement other  
special temporary measures incidental to the implementation of the AAP, namely, to  
undertake a publicity campaign to encourage women to apply for non-traditional  
positions, and to appoint within two months of the decision “a person responsible with  
full powers to ensure the application of the special temporary measures and to carry out  
547 Commission scolaire des Samares v. Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse, supra note 536, at paras. 22, 26 and 27; emphasis added.  
548 Ibid. at para. 27.  
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any other duties assigned to him by CN to implement this decision”.549 Lastly, the  
Tribunal ordered the employer to periodically submit to the Canadian Human Rights  
Commission, throughout the duration of the program, detailed reports on the various  
measures taken and the results obtained under the program.  
[512] An eloquent illustration of the diversity and scope of the orders likely to be issued  
for the implementation of an AAP is found in a more recent decision of the Canadian  
Human Rights Tribunal. The Tribunal allowed the recourse of the complainants, who  
were visible minorities and alleged systemic discrimination by the authorities of Health  
Canada in the process leading to the appointment of managers.550  
[513] As regards temporary corrective measures, the Canadian Tribunal ordered, in  
particular, the appointment by the employer of members of visible minorities to certain  
permanent senior management positions “at the rate of 18% a year (twice the rate of  
availability) for five years, in order to reach 80% proportional representation of this  
designated group into this category within this time frame”.551 Furthermore, to ensure  
that the objective of those measures was achieved within the time frame, various  
measures were imposed, i.e. the implementation of a special reporting measure for the  
managers responsible for hiring new recruits, an obligation to explicitly mention the  
existence of the AAP in all staffing notices for the positions to be filled, the appointment  
of a person responsible with full powers to ensure the implementation of all the  
temporary measures.  
[514] The Canadian Tribunal also ordered Health Canada to have recourse to external  
recruitment sources by making particular use of media aimed more specifically at visible  
minorities and the unofficial networks of visible minorities within Health Canada itself  
and in other federal departments and agencies. Various upgrading courses and  
programs had to be offered more particularly to members of visible minorities in order to  
enhance their qualifications, and training programs in supervising a cross-culturally  
diverse workforce had to be given to current managers. Lastly, Health Canada had to  
periodically report to the Canadian Human Rights Commission on the results of the  
operation throughout its duration, by means of detailed quantitative reports.  
[515] In her testimony before the Tribunal, Erika Boukamp Bosch mentioned that, to  
correct the significant under-representation of women in the blue-collar job category at  
Gaz Métro, an AAP containing preferential hiring measures should be implemented in  
the company.  
[516] Supplementing the analyses in her report on the rate of female representation  
compared with the rate of female availability in regard to the position of network  
549 The AFT case, supra note 35, para. 20030 at D/2416.  
550 National Capital Alliance on Race Relations v. Canada (Department of Health & Welfare), supra note  
51.  
551 Ibid. at para. 191 (1); emphasis added.  
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operator,552 Ms. Boukamp Bosch commented at the hearing553 on the fact that, in 2003,  
Gaz Métro had only 15 women in its 287-person semi-skilled manual labour category,554  
a rate of representation of 5%. At the time, the rate of availability of women in that  
category of employment was 21.5% according to the 1996 federal census. To bridge the  
6.5% gap, 47 more women therefore had to be hired as semi-skilled manual workers.555  
That situation led the expert witness to express the following opinion:  
R. [B]etween nineteen ninety-seven (1997), … and two thousand and three  
(2003), the company has one (1) additional woman in its workforce in this  
semiskilled manual labour. The representation has gone up somewhat, it’s  
now five per cent (5%) of the workforce, but that’s largely a result because  
the semiskilled manual workforce became smaller. … [S]o whatever they did  
in terms of hiring and so on has not made a significant impact on the gap  
because the gap remains substantial. …  
Q. [I]n light of the data that you have observed and in terms of the  
representation levels that you have observed both in your report and here  
before you, what in your opinion would be appropriate hiring objectives?  
R. Now, the Act doesn’t define really how… what reasonable progress is, but the  
Act requires to review your plans every three (3) years. So in that context, I  
would definitely think that the company would have to step up its hiring rate,  
they may want to hire at forty per cent (40%) or higher. Theoretically, you  
would set it higher, theoretically, you would say, well maybe sixty per cent  
(60%), but that becomes unreasonable under the Act, so.556  
[517] Ms. Boukamp Bosch was referring to the provisions of the federal employment  
equity legislation. According to the legislation, employers must make a reasonable effort  
to make satisfactory progress with a view to achieving employment equity, which is  
ultimately aimed at the full participation of under-represented groups. Hiring objectives  
must therefore be established considering different factors such as equity toward the  
other candidates or groups seeking to be hired, the rate of staff turnover and the hiring  
volume.557  
[518] In light of those parameters, Ms. Boukamp Bosch explained why it is preferable  
to impose a preferential hiring rate above the rate of availability of women in semi-  
skilled blue-collar jobs, in order to reduce the substantial gap between that rate (21.5%)  
and their rate of representation (5%):  
R. [I]f you continue to hire at that rate, you’re never going to breach that gap  
because that gap is quite substantial. Yes, you’re only going to breach the  
gap if finally your workforce is zero because the only progress made really by  
552 See in that regard section 3.1.2.  
553 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 21 et seq.  
554 Note that that category, to which the position of network operator belongs, is part of the National  
Occupational Classification: see section 3.1.2.  
555 Ms. Boukamp Bosch was referring to Table 7 of Exhibit P-56, i.e. Gaz Métro’s 2003 annual report in  
the framework of its participation in the federal employment equity program.  
556 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 22, 23 and 25.  
557 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 24.  
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percentage of women went up. So, based on that, I would say the company  
would probably have to hire… four (4) out of every ten (10) hires should be  
women to make some reasonable progress.  
Q. [A]nd if I put to you that, let’s say, in recent years, hypothetically, the hiring  
rate has perhaps been in this group between ten (10) and thirteen per cent  
(13%), would that be adequate in your view?  
R. That would be below the minimum availability, first; and second, that would  
never lead to an acceptable workforce because you hire… you continue to  
hire under minimum availability rather than, as I suggest, that you would have  
to hire at an accelerated rate, given the large gap that remains.558  
[519] Cross-examined by Gaz Métro’s attorney, Ms. Boukamp Bosch acknowledged  
that, in the absence of specific scientific data on the subject, her recommendation was  
based on all the Gaz Métro data brought to her attention and on her experience in the  
field.559 Although she promised to provide, before the end of the trial, data issued by  
Human Resources Development Canada for employers, she did not do so.  
[520] France Landry, AAP advisor for the Commission, testified about the steps in  
implementing the programs. They consist successively in diagnosing the under-  
representation, developing the program itself, implementing it and, lastly, evaluating  
it.560 In that context, she gave four criteria to be considered in determining a preferential  
hiring rate (or preferential appointment rate): (1) a sufficiently high rate to make it  
possible to achieve results; (2) a rate that leaves leeway for other groups likely to avail  
themselves of such measures; (3) a rate adapted to the change in the representation of  
the group in question; (4) a rate adjusted according to the number of positions to be  
filled.561 She indicated that the fewer positions to be filled, the higher the rate of  
preferential appointment should be, and vice versa.  
[521] Denise Perron did not comment on Ms. Boukamp Bosch’s recommendation  
concerning a 40% preferential hiring rate for women in the position of network operator.  
She essentially concluded that there was no under-representation of women in the  
position of network operator. She also stressed the reasonableness of the numerical  
hiring objective to which an employer can be subjected as part of an affirmative action  
program.  
[522] For the reasons mentioned earlier,562 the Tribunal believes that Ms. Boukamp  
Bosch’s analysis of the under-representation of women in the position of network  
operator at Gaz Métro is superior to Ms. Perron’s. Considering the relevant legislative  
provisions, their reception in Canadian law and the evidence adduced at the hearing,  
the Tribunal feels it is necessary for Gaz Métro to establish an AAP, consistent with  
558 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 26.  
559 Erika Boukamp Bosch, stenographic notes, February 18, 2005 at 188 et seq.  
560 France Landry, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 60.  
561 France Landry, stenographic notes, March 15, 2005 at 73.  
562 See section 3.1.2.  
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Charter provisions, in order to ensure, within a reasonable period of time, that women  
are represented in the position of network operator at their rate of availability on the  
labour market.  
[523] To that end, the Tribunal notes the logic of the uncontradicted arguments of Ms.  
Boukamp Bosch concerning the determination of an appropriate numerical hiring  
objective. However, the rate of availability and Gaz Métro’s data on which her  
recommendation was based date back to 2003. Hence, the Tribunal deems it preferable  
for Gaz Métro and the Commission to determine an adequate preferential hiring rate on  
the basis of data collected in the analysis of staff and availability that must be conducted  
and according to the hiring forecasts for the position of network operator or its current  
equivalent. Unless the data collected differ significantly from those analysed by Ms.  
Boukamp Bosch, the parties must develop an AAP with a numerical hiring objective  
comparable to the one recommended by that expert.  
[524] To be consistent with the Charter and the applicable regulation, the AAP must  
also include a set of additional measures. Let me mention the preparation of a timetable  
for achievement of the objectives determined beforehand, identification of monitoring  
measures that make it possible to gauge the progress achieved and adjustments to be  
made, and the designation of an employee in a position of authority to be in charge of  
applying the program.  
[525] Given the evidence of discrimination already in the record and the additional  
steps to be taken before it is realistically possible to implement the AAP, the Tribunal  
grants Gaz Métro three months to develop the program in collaboration with the  
Commission. After that deadline, Gaz Métro must submit the AAP to the Tribunal, which  
may, “in accordance with the Charter, make the modifications it considers  
appropriate”.563 The Tribunal having also decided, during the trial, not to render any  
order likely to affect the application of the collective agreement binding the employer  
and the Syndicat, the AAP will concern the recruitment and hiring processes conducted  
outside Gaz Métro ([TRANSLATION] “externally”) and those conducted  
[TRANSLATION] “internally”, i.e. in the company, excluding, however, the CSN-certified  
bargaining unit represented in this case by the Syndicat.  
4.1.2 Modifying institutional policies and practices  
[526] In order to “break a continuing cycle of systemic discrimination”,564 the  
permanent measures to neutralize institutional policies and practices are aimed at  
thoroughly modifying the hiring procedure, and even the working conditions of the  
members of a group disproportionately excluded. The measures may take various  
forms, a few examples of which are provided in the jurisprudence.  
563 Charter, second paragraph of s. 88.  
564 Action Travail des Femmes, supra note 27 at 1143.  
 
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[527] In the AFT case,565 the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal ordered permanent  
measures to neutralize common policies and practices. The employer had to  
discontinue the physical tests not required of male candidates. It also had to discontinue  
any mechanical aptitude test that disproportionately excluded women if it was not  
warranted by the aptitude requirements of the positions being applied for. Furthermore,  
Canadian National had to discontinue the requirement for welding experience for almost  
all entry-level positions; modify its system for the dissemination of information on  
positions available so as to improve visibility, and change the practices of the hiring  
office in regard to female candidates and the system of interviewing candidates; provide  
greater oversight of the role played by foremen in hiring; and maintain the adoption of  
measures to counteract any form of sexual discrimination or harassment.  
[528] In Green,566 the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal concluded that the Public  
Service Commission, the Treasury Board and Human Resources Development Canada  
engaged in systemic discrimination against their employees with auditive learning  
disabilities. Since the evidence showed a poor understanding by the staff of the nature  
of the learning disabilities and effective measures to take them into consideration, the  
Tribunal issued various remedial orders regarding the institutional procedures and  
practices of the respondents. Let me mention the creation of an employee training  
program concerning mechanisms to effect the accommodation of persons with learning  
disabilities in their employment; the implementation of a procedure to review cases  
where an individual with a disability does not come within the parameters of established  
policies or procedures; a review of policies to ensure that they consider the needs of  
candidates and are integrated into the training program for employees; the development  
of a method for testing the aptitude of each individual that takes into consideration his or  
her disability and the nature of the compensatory strategies used by that person.  
[529] The importance of providing training for employees was also recognized in  
Radek.567 The British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal noted first that the facts in the  
case did not make it possible to impose an AAP because the systemic discrimination  
was against the Aboriginal clientele of a shopping mall and was engaged in by the  
security guards of a company that no longer provided security services there. Stressing  
that it was essential for the measures remedying that type of discrimination to be  
adapted to the context proper to each case, the Tribunal accordingly imposed on the  
owner of the mall various systemic measures, including the obligation to give all security  
guards anti-discrimination training. The security guards must also be given adequate  
explanations regarding applicable policies and receive support in performing their work  
without discrimination. The members of the public who are concerned about the  
behaviour of certain guards must have access to an effective internal complaint  
mechanism.  
565 The AFT case, supra note 35.  
566 Green v. Canada (Public Service Commission), supra note 49.  
567 Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) Ltd., supra note 59.  
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[530] The British Columbia Tribunal explained the general nature of the orders it issued  
by the scant information it had regarding the more recent practices in force in the  
shopping mall. It was of the opinion that the situation nevertheless provided the parties  
with an opportunity to build new policies together, and the owner with an opportunity to  
better understand the needs of the clientele served by the mall. To that end, the  
Tribunal ordered the owner to consult with Ms. Radek and encouraged it to consult  
various community organizations such as those involved with disabled and Aboriginal  
persons. The Tribunal also reserved its jurisdiction for a period of six months in order to  
rule, at the parties’ request, on any disagreement requiring additional orders.  
[531] A much more exhaustive approach was taken by the Canadian Human Rights  
Tribunal in the case opposing the National Capital Alliance on Race Relations and the  
federal Department of Health.568 When the personal skills of the members of visible  
minorities were evaluated for managerial positions, the employer had to not only  
evaluate the candidates experience but also the qualifications sought. Called upon to  
establish selection juries composed of members of different communities with a view to  
encouraging a bias-free process, Health Canada also had to see to the:  
training to all managers and human resource specialists on strategies to recruit,  
promote and retain visible minorities by providing guidelines and training on bias-  
free selection and recruitment practices. This will also include sensitizing them to  
diversity and employment equity issues, including systemic barriers.569  
[532] The administrators also had to attend workshops on human rights legislation and  
the benefits of a diverse workforce. In addition, Health Canada had to define clearly  
beforehand the qualifications required for the managerial positions to be filled and  
ensure that the criteria were known to everyone. Health Canada also had to develop in  
advance the parts of the selection process aimed at assessing the qualifications needed  
for certain positions, which would also be used when filling acting appointments.  
[533] In the case at bar, some of the conclusions sought by the Commission in the  
framework of the imposition of an AAP are linked to more permanent hiring policies and  
measures. The facts as adduced and the rules applicable to them lead the Tribunal to  
also order Gaz Métro to eliminate from the hiring process for the position of network  
operator, or its current equivalent, criteria that disproportionately exclude women  
without being warranted by the requirements of the position, for example, the obligation  
to hold a class 3 driver’s licence when hired, the need for female candidates to have  
prior experience in a non-traditional job and the use of mechanical questions taken from  
the Bennett test.  
[534] In that regard, the Tribunal deems it essential for Gaz Métro to adopt selection  
criteria and tools that meet the requirements of criterion-related validation in order to  
568 National Capital Alliance on Race Relations v. Canada (Department of Health & Welfare), supra note  
51.  
569 Ibid. at para. 190 (3).  
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ensure a better correlation between the actual requirements of the position of network  
operator, or its current equivalent, and the qualifications and skills gauged in the  
candidates for the position. Furthermore, so that female candidates for the position can,  
in full equality with men, demonstrate their qualifications in terms of the actual  
requirements of the position, Gaz Métro must adapt certain selection tests and tools and  
equipment used in the tests, as well as in the training and on the job, to women’s  
physical characteristics. Gaz Métro must also see that the people in charge of the  
design and administration of the selection tools and tests deal equally, without  
discrimination based on sex, with female candidates for the position of network  
operator, or its equivalent. To that end, they must be given instructions including training  
regarding the components of, and the measures to remedy, systemic discrimination in  
employment against women.  
[535] Lastly, from the perspective of fostering the development at Gaz Métro of an  
institutional culture that is more sensitive to the sometimes more insidious, sometimes  
more blatant, aspects of systemic discrimination in employment against women, the  
Tribunal also deems it desirable for Gaz Métro to set up a joint committee composed of  
representatives of management and women in the position of network operator, or its  
current equivalent, in order to fight sexual and sexist harassment at work.570  
4.2  
Individual measures  
[536] According to section 49 of the Charter, any unlawful interference with a right or  
freedom recognized by the Charter entitles the victim to obtain the cessation of such  
interference and compensation for the material or moral prejudice resulting therefrom,  
not to mention punitive damages if the interference is both unlawful and intentional.  
When the Commission acts in those circumstances on behalf of a victim, it applies to a  
tribunal in order to obtain, “where consistent with the public interest, any appropriate  
measure against the person at fault or to demand, in favour of the victim, any measure  
of redress it considers appropriate at that time”.571 In Canada, specialized human rights  
tribunals have also granted remedial measures of that nature in cases in which there  
was a finding of systemic discrimination.  
4.2.1 Measures related to material prejudice  
[537] Having concluded, in Green,572 that the discrimination against employees with an  
auditory learning disability was systemic, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal  
reiterated the principle of restitution to the original position (restitutio in integrum). It  
accordingly ordered the defendant to compensate for the wages lost by the complainant  
and pay her a lump sum of $69 895.25, an amount corresponding to the period between  
570 Note that, in Québec law, harassment in the workplace on the basis of sex also constitutes sexual  
discrimination: Habachi v. CDPDJ [1999] R.J.Q. 2522 (C.A.); the Court of Appeal upheld the Tribunal’s  
conclusion to that effect.  
571 Charter, s. 80.  
572 Green v. Canada (Public Service Commission), supra note 49.  
   
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the start of the discrimination and start of the proceedings. The Canadian Tribunal also  
ordered the employer to pay her a total amount equal to monthly payments of $825.66  
to cover the period of the proceedings. Added to those amounts was a gross-up to  
compensate the complainant for the adverse tax implications stemming from the lump-  
sum receipt of those amounts. The amount of the gross-up was to be determined by the  
compensation department of one of the respondents, and the Tribunal would retain  
jurisdiction in the event of the parties’ disagreement.  
[538] As a supplement, the Canadian Tribunal also ordered the adjustment of the  
pension provided for by the employer in order to reflect the salary the victim would have  
received in the management position she would have obtained but for the discrimination  
against her; the payment, on all the amounts owed the victim, of compound interest at  
the Canada Savings Bonds rate, calculated from the date of the discriminatory practice;  
and the payment of $4057.22 for the costs of legal advice.  
[539] The awarding of compensation for the loss of chance is examined in  
Ayangma.573 The Prince Edward Island Human Rights Commission had concluded that  
the refusal to hire a candidate from a visible minority as a race relations consultant was  
more broadly part of a hiring process coloured by unconscious bias in favour of people  
who were already part of the system, to the exclusion of minority candidates. In favour,  
in principle, of the awarding of such material compensation, the Court concluded,  
however, that there was no evidence in support of that claim:  
The primary difficulty lies with the total lack of any evidence of any damages  
suffered by the plaintiff. It would appear that there was a loss of chance, but the  
plaintiff has produced no evidence regarding his efforts in this regard and  
whether or not his subsequent employment resulted in any actual loss. There is  
thus no basis upon which to award any type of special damages.574  
[540] Authors Baudouin and Deslauriers characterize material compensation on the  
ground of loss of chance in Québec civil law as follows:  
[TRANSLATION]  
The jurisprudence also compensates for the loss of a chance. In that case, it is  
not the actual loss that the court seeks to compensate, but rather the  
disappearance, because of the wrongful act, of the chance to either avoid a loss  
or realize a profit.  
The theoretical difficulty is that the prejudice for which a claim is made is not only  
in the future but, by its very definition, random. If the wrongful act had not  
occurred, no one could say with certainty whether the loss could have been  
avoided or the profit realized. However, the courts, recognizing that the simple  
573 Ayangma v. Govt. of PEI, supra note 43.  
574 Ibid. at para. 142.  
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loss of chance can constitute direct prejudice, can award damages as an  
exception.575  
[541] Laferrière v. Lawson,576 still the landmark ruling in that field, defines the scope  
that the theory of the loss of chance must have, more particularly in medical  
responsibility matters.577 Considering the difficulties of proof in this area and,  
particularly, proving the nature of the causal link required, the Supreme Court  
established in that ruling that causation must be determined according to the usual  
system of preponderant probability. Accordingly, the loss of a simple chance cannot  
constitute damage that can be compensated and “the theory of loss of chance [should  
not] be introduced into the civil law of Quebec in matters of medical responsibility …”.578  
[542] However, more generally, Gonthier J. was careful to mention certain situations  
conducive to that type of compensation, even if it is not certain that the alleged fault  
caused the damage. He wrote the following on behalf of the majority:  
[I]t is no obstacle to recovery that the damage in question was not certainly caused  
by the alleged fault; it is sufficient that it is made real and credible by a combination  
of factual and statistical evidence. Accordingly, a judge may, without violating the  
general rules of causation, link the fault to contingent damage, provided that he or  
she is satisfied that such a link has been established with sufficient evidence as to  
that which would normally occur or that which follows in the normal course of  
events.  
Where the fault of the defendant has already been established and where no other  
identifiable competing causal factors have been identified, it may be open to the  
judge to evaluate the damages according to the chance alone.579  
[543] The Tribunal has ordered the payment of that type of damages in different  
situations in which there was no systemic discrimination. In Boucher,580 a person with a  
visual disability was not allowed to retake a written examination that included  
accommodation measures. According to the Tribunal, although it was not certain that  
the person would have obtained the position upon completion of the selection process,  
the failure sustained further to the refusal to grant him any accommodation deprived him  
of the chance to be on the list of candidates able to perform a job in the public service.  
575 Jean-Louis Baudouin and Patrice Deslauriers, La responsabilité civile, 7th ed., Vol. 1 (Cowansville,  
Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2007) at 355.  
576 Laferrière v. Lawson [1991] 1 S.C.R. 541.  
577 The Supreme Court in fact refers to it in a more recent ruling on a similar question: St-Jean v.  
Mercier, [2002] 1 S.C.R. 491.  
578 Laferrière v. Lawson, supra note 576 at 608.  
579 Ibid. at 602-603.  
580 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Québec (Procureur  
général) (March 9, 2005), Québec 200-53-000029-046, J.E. 2005-780 (QC T.D.P.).  
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That loss called for restitution assessed at $1000.00 by the Tribunal, given that the  
victim obtained a permanent job a few months later.  
[544] In another case, in which discrimination based on civil status and a handicap in a  
hiring process was found,581 the Tribunal stated that no one knew what would have  
happened in the victim’s career if she had obtained the position she wanted. Inasmuch  
as the variety of a person’s experience is likely to enrich the person’s CV and increase  
the person’s potential value on the labour market, the Tribunal considered that the  
missed chance could have been a springboard for her toward new occupational  
horizons. The Tribunal therefore deemed that the alleged loss of chance appeared real  
and that she had to be compensated in the amount of $2500.00.  
[545] Lastly, the Tribunal also ordered the payment of $2500.00 for loss of chance to a  
candidate who was not hired on the ground of age. The Tribunal mentioned that, in  
addition to moral prejudice, an individual can also sustain direct prejudice because of  
loss of a chance resulting from the discriminatory rejection of his candidacy, which  
definitively closed the door to a position or employment without his enjoying the same  
consideration as the other candidates in the evaluation of their files. Hence, although it  
was not certain that he would have obtained the position after completing the selection  
process and although the employer was not obliged to offer him the position, the sole  
fact that his candidacy was rejected so cavalierly and on a discriminatory ground  
resulted in [TRANSLATION] “loss of a chance” and required restitution.582  
[546] In the case at bar, in which seven victims oppose Gaz Métro, the Tribunal  
believes that only Marie-Claude Côté must receive compensation for loss of salary. The  
difference between her and the other victims is that she was the only one to have  
successfully completed, in 1997, all the stages in the selection process before  
undergoing a medical examination. For the reasons given earlier,583 the Tribunal does  
not accept the employer’s contention that the rejection of her candidacy retroactively, in  
a manner of speaking, was explained by a reasonable doubt about her capacity to  
successfully undergo the training process inherent in the position of network operator.  
The Tribunal concludes that it was more likely that, in the circumstances, Gaz Métro’s  
change of mind, which was surprising to say the least, is instead explained by the  
information in Ms. Côté’s medical report and, more specifically, by her pregnancy.  
[547] Hence, Gaz Métro must pay Ms. Côté an amount equivalent to the salary she  
would have received as of October 1997, for the first six months of her training as a  
network trainee. That amount must be established according to the report,584 which was  
uncontested on that point, of Marc Fortier, public accountant presented as a witness by  
581 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Institut Demers inc.,  
[1999] R.J.Q. 3101 (QC T.D.P.); discontinuance on appeal.  
582 Québec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Nicolet (Ville de),  
[2001] R.J.Q. 2735 (QC T.D.P.).  
583 See section 3.3.6.  
584 P-90, supra note 13.  
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the Commission. The Tribunal believes that it cannot award more in that regard since it  
cannot know for certain whether Ms. Côté would have passed the disqualifying  
examination provided for at the end of that period. Should that situation have adverse  
tax implications because of the payment, for lost salary, of that lump sum during a  
single taxation year, Gaz Métro must also pay Ms. Côté a lump sum established in  
accordance with the method in the report585 prepared by Richard Joly, public accountant  
presented as a witness by Gaz Métro.  
[548] The Tribunal also awards $10 000.00, i.e. the total amount sought for the loss of  
a chance, to Johanne Bolduc and Shirley Thomas each, who, after passing the  
theoretical examination, were not allowed to complete the selection process because  
they failed the practical examination. Bear in mind that the Tribunal has concluded that  
the practical examination had a disproportionately exclusionary effect on the women,  
preventing them from demonstrating their real qualifications and skills with a view to  
filling the position of network operator.  
[549] As for the other victims, namely, Line Beaudoin, Joan Dupont, Nicole Trudel and  
Tania Plourde, the Tribunal assesses at $5000.00 their respective loss of a chance.  
Note that the first two women were excluded at the pre-interview stage, whereas the  
last two failed the theoretical examination. Accordingly, the Tribunal believes that these  
four victims also lost a chance to be hired as network operators, but to a lesser degree  
than those who passed those stages of the selection process.  
4.2.2 Measures related to moral prejudice  
[550] Evidence of moral damages sustained by a victim of systemic discrimination also  
makes it possible to obtain compensation in that regard. In Ayangma,586 mentioned  
earlier, the tribunal of first instance concluded that no evidence was adduced by the  
complainant of prejudice of that nature.587  
[551] In Radek,588 the complainant was personally awarded $15 000.00 in  
compensation for moral prejudice stemming from interference with her dignity as an  
Aboriginal woman having sustained discrimination by the security guards of a shopping  
mall. The Tribunal stressed that the damage to Ms. Radek occurred in a broader social  
context:  
When one considers the historical reality of racism suffered by Aboriginal  
Canadians generally, and in Ms. Radek’s case in particular, it is reasonable to  
conclude that the impact on her of the discrimination she suffered from the  
585 D-103, supra note 20.  
586 Ayangma v. Govt. of PEI, supra note 43.  
587 The complainant appealed from the Tribunal’s conclusions in regard to damages. The Appeal  
Division of the Supreme Court of Prince Edward Island dismissed the main appeal but allowed the  
incidental appeal of the provincial government: (2001) PESCAD 22.  
588 Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) Ltd., supra note 59.  
 
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respondents may have been especially severe. As in tort law, the perpetrator of  
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discrimination takes its victim as it finds her. If past traumatic experience make a  
person more vulnerable to the effects of repeated instances of discrimination, it is  
the discriminator, not the victim, who must bear the compensatory burden.589  
[552] In the case at bar, the Tribunal believes that the moral damages sought must be  
awarded individually, according to the evidence adduced at the hearing. Marie-Claude  
Côté was the victim who sustained the greatest prejudice. Remember that she passed  
the interview stage in 1995 and was told that she had the right profile. However, the  
same year, she failed the theoretical examination. Sylvie Richard told her she was an  
excellent candidate and that she should take mathematics and physics courses with a  
view to taking the examination again. Ms. Côté took part in the pilot project and failed  
the theoretical examination again, in 1996. She passed it in 1997, after which she  
underwent the medical examination, the last stage prior to hiring. Restrictions were  
indicated in her medical report. Her candidacy was rejected. Feeling [TRANSLATION]  
“completely shattered”590 after the pilot project was abandoned and after failing the  
theoretical examination for the second time, she testified as follows about the whole  
process she underwent at Gaz Métro:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Well, that was the longest process I ever had to go through for a job. …  
It affected me in many ways. As regards the pilot project in particular, you know, I  
had made such an effort and that … really affected me inside and, you know, I  
wondered … I wondered about it. …  
I found it so inconceivable that … yes. I wondered about it afterward and I even  
went through another process. But what I tell myself now, my question, what  
hurts me most in all that is that in ninety-five (‘95), I was … I was the best, and  
they were ready to let me in a pilot project. Then in ninety-seven (‘97), I had  
passing grades and I wasn’t taken. I don’t understand it. So … it’s really beyond  
my understanding … I have trouble expressing it, because … In any case, that  
raised all kinds of questions in my mind. I had to take many steps, an enormous  
number of steps and, in spite of all of them, nothing happened. It was very  
disappointing. Great disappointment. And I felt it wasn’t serious and …  
First, what happened? It seems to me that I did what I had to do … you know. I  
asked myself and always wondered what happened, why. And it wasn’t clear and  
no one gave me explanations. I felt like a number and … If I had been told  
something else, maybe it would have been different. But that’s what I was told. I  
can live with it and … you know. There aren’t tons of good employers. It’s hard  
for a women to find a job in a non-traditional workplace. In the private sector,  
they don’t have affirmative action programs. We all realize that … it’s hard out  
there. It’s difficult to explain, but that’s still the reality. You know, you take a  
589 Ibid. at para. 647; emphasis added.  
590 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005 at 40-42.  
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they … they’re he-men. They see you coming and you’re five (5) feet tall. Those  
people don’t hire you. Yeah, it’s true. You find barriers everywhere. Where are  
the affirmative action programs for you? They’re useful in any case.  
That’s what happens when you hear such lies, you know. Affirmative action  
programs, well … I don’t believe in them any more. Sorry.591  
[553] The Tribunal therefore finds that the $20 000.00 sought in moral damages is  
appropriate in Ms. Côté’s case.  
[554] Gaz Métro must also pay five other victims $15 000.00 each.  
[555] After being told by Sylvie Richard that she had the ideal profile, Johanne Bolduc  
passed the theoretical examination only on her third try, in 1997. She then failed the  
practical examination, with a grade of 35%. The evaluator suggested that she buy an  
electricity kit at Radio Shack in order to prepare to take the examination again. Here is  
the substance of her testimony regarding the damage sustained:  
[TRANSLATION]  
Well I actually found the written exam, I found it hard. Not hard in the sense of  
hard to do, but to see the exam as connected with a mainly manual job to be  
done … also, I knew there were a few calculations involved, but first I found it a  
little difficult to make the link between the two (2).  
But I also found that, with my experience, it was difficult … psychologically,  
because I had also submitted many other applications, too. I had a few  
interviews. Everywhere, I had more or less the ideal profile, but it was never …  
How can I say it? I had a spouse who gave me lots of support, because I was  
discouraged by having to go through the process three (3) times and, in the end,  
see that nothing came of it. It was pretty hard.  
In fact, I had two (2) young children and I had to find part-time work to make ends  
meet. That wasn’t easy either.  
It was a feeling of rejection to a certain extent that I felt at Gaz Métropolitain.592  
[556] Despite her airplane pilot’s licence and her jobs on a dairy farm and in a sugar  
bush, Joan Dupont was told by Jean-Pierre Raymond that her experience in non-  
traditional work was not relevant and that she did not have the profile. She had already  
taken steps to obtain a class 3 driver’s licence and had studied for the tests. She  
testified as follows:  
591 Marie-Claude Côté, stenographic notes, February 2, 2005, pp. 71-74.  
592 Johanne Bolduc, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005 at 70-71.  
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[I] was very disappointed because I had studied for those tests. I went to libraries  
and the friend who supported me in the steps I took also gave me books on  
electricity, among other things, and helped me prepare for my examination.  
I felt I was at a turning point in that I had … my son, given that he had reached  
the age of eleven (11), I felt a little like I was at a turning point in my career. And  
after looking for work in job search clubs and by myself, too, I realized that non-  
traditional work, it was … in any case, I wanted to go for it.  
In my case … it’s because I had a lot of … I really placed a lot of hope in that job.  
For me, it was like truly taking up a challenge, because I was very aware that I  
wasn’t … that … in any case, that truly represented a challenge I really wanted to  
take up. When I saw that it didn’t pan out, but rather quickly, that I didn’t get very  
far in the process, I was very disappointed. But it’s certain that I questioned a  
little the path I had taken.  
I applied in many places and all, but I can tell you that being given the answer on  
the spot, that was the first time that happened in my life and I really ran to the  
washroom because I … in any case, I was really disappointed, you know,  
because I had made such an effort. I had actually set the process in motion to  
get my class 3 licence and all that. I had studied.593  
[557] Tania Plourde failed the written examination in 1995. Sylvie Richard told her she  
had the right profile and suggested that she submit her candidacy again after taking  
mathematics and physics courses. She obtained her class 2 licence, but despite her  
interest, she could not be part of the pilot project because she was not among the five  
best candidates. She called Sylvie Richard several times and Ms. Richard told her each  
time that there was no opening. She stopped calling during the summer of 1996. She  
questioned her career path and ultimately took a course in legal techniques, which she  
completed in 2000. She then realized that she really preferred manual work out-of-doors  
and she reactivated her card in order to work in the construction industry. Here is how  
she summarized her experience with Gaz Métro:  
[TRANSLATION]  
At first, I was thrilled. I was, as I wanted to say earlier, on a high. I was geared  
up. I said: “Great …”. I said … I saw that as a wonderful opportunity to  
experience something else, to see, to learn. And then, as the process went  
along, well, I slowly, not quickly, became disenchanted. I told myself … I even  
asked myself: “Do they really want this?”. You know …  
593 Johanne (Joan) Dupont, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 50-51, 54 and 58-61.  
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earlier, you know. I went back to Cegep because of that. I asked myself. I said:  
“Listen, you know, maybe I made a mistake. Maybe I’m not made for this”. You  
know, I really … in any case. I … That discouraged me. I really lost confidence.  
Hearing that I was … I had the ideal profile, that I would be … And it was also the  
way it was put, the way I was told. And it was a whole series of events, innuendo,  
looks, that meant that, yes, damn it, you know, probably, you know, I would have  
a chance to see, to experience something else. And it was a good company, Gaz  
Métropolitain. No reason to hide that either. It’s like Hydro-Québec. And in the  
end, to be told: “Well, listen, call back, call back again, call back again”. Well, that  
was really discouraging.594  
[558] In 1995, Shirley Thomas succeeded in the interview, in which she was told that  
she had the ideal profile. At the time, she had her own tree-pruning business. She failed  
the theoretical examination the same year, then participated in the pilot project. She  
passed the theoretical examination in 1996, but failed the practical examination.595 She  
tried again the following year, but failed the theoretical examination. According to her  
testimony:  
[TRANSLATION]  
It was terrible. They built us up and then it came to nothing. I felt crushed, good  
for nothing. I couldn’t get over it after my DCS marks. It was beyond belief to get  
such marks. In any case, you know, I was really fed up with them and all the  
other companies offering non-traditional work, because, every time you apply, it’s  
always the same, you know. Nothing ever happens. Are you afraid to get dirty,  
Ma’am? If they saw me after a day’s work …  
So … I was discouraged, broken.596  
[559] As for Line Beaudoin, in 1995 she attended an information session following  
which she was called for an interview. A few days later, Sylvie Richard left her a  
message on her answering machine informing her that she did not have the job profile  
and had not been accepted:  
[TRANSLATION]  
No, I didn’t have an opportunity to go on to another stage in the selection  
process. I would so have wanted to pass that stage, to go and see, to be able to  
take the written or physical tests and have a chance to see for myself how I’d do.  
Because it’s as if … well, I would have liked to be able to test that aspect. It was  
something important to me.  
594 Tania Plourde, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 185-186.  
595 The Tribunal recalls that she was given the wrong test, the one for service employees rather than the  
one for network operators.  
596 Shirley Thomas, stenographic notes, February 8, 2005 at 114-115.  
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since nineteen ninety-five (1995), I'd been getting poorer, like a lot of people in  
fact, but if I had had access to that position, it would definitely have been a clear  
improvement for me financially and also from the standpoint of my quality of life.  
So I had to tighten my belt, sometimes drastically, in order to make do until the  
end of the tax year. I had to use … people helped me out financially.  
Those were particularly difficult years between nineteen ninety-five (1995) and  
nineteen ninety-eight (1998). I took a lot of steps to find a job. The labour market  
being what it was, it wasn’t always easy, even if you had specific training.  
So, for me, being able to work in a position, even if it was a non-traditional one,  
and with what Gaz Met seemed to want in terms of qualifications, it seemed to  
me that aspect was completely open to me.  
So I was simply very disappointed and some of my dignity as a woman was  
taken from me because it was as if I were told that, because I’m a women, the  
position was simply not open to me. So that was how I experienced it, really a lot  
like rejection.  
Well I told myself that, because I’m female, I don’t have the same chances,  
simply because of my sex, to hold a position that would be well-paid, stable, with  
job security and fringe benefits, like one at Gaz Met, a company with a very good  
reputation in that regard. So I had hoped to have access to all that, to those  
benefits.  
Yes, at one point, psychologically, I found myself with no safety net, too. Despite  
the fact that I have friends and all that, you still need a minimum amount of  
money to live and you ultimately begin to question yourself. So that was, I would  
say, a rather dark period for me.  
And also the fact that, in the other steps I took, there wasn’t necessarily … I had  
tiny contracts here and there, but I … I found that hard, and was also dissatisfied  
with myself and said to myself … it’s as if I had trouble making my place in the  
world and making a proper living.597  
[560] Lastly, the Tribunal assesses at $10 000.00 the moral prejudice sustained by  
Nicole Trudel. She first failed the theoretical examination in 1995, then again in 1997.  
Here is the evidence adduced in that regard in her testimony:  
597 Line Beaudoin, stenographic notes, January 31, 2005, pp. 205-206, 208-211.  
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Well, it was a job I wanted. That’s certain. It was a good job, and I like physical  
work and I like driving, too. It was really a job I wanted, for the long term.  
Of course it was a disappointment because I had a lot riding on that job, given  
that … I was really encouraged because I truly believed that I had what it took to  
be in that line of work. And, yes, I was very disappointed … that my candidacy  
was not accepted.598  
4.2.3 Punitive damages  
[561] The Charter penalizes in a particular manner intentional discriminatory acts. If  
proof of such acts is adduced, a tribunal can order the person who engaged in the  
discrimination to pay punitive damages, which are to have a dissuasive effect for the  
future. As established by the Supreme Court, unlawful interference in the right to  
equality in employment is also intentional:  
when the person who commits the unlawful interference has a state of mind that  
implies a desire or intent to cause the consequences of his or her wrongful  
conduct, or when that person acts with full knowledge of the immediate and  
natural or at least extremely probable consequences that his or her conduct will  
cause. This test is not as strict as specific intent, but it does go beyond simple  
negligence. Thus, an individual’s recklessness, however wild and foolhardy, as to  
the consequences of his or her wrongful acts will not in itself satisfy this test.599  
[562] In Green, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal mentioned the moral prejudice  
that ten years of institutional discrimination caused the victim, who was evaluated as  
“totally dedicated and committed” and had continued to be the consummate  
professional in her employment duties. The Tribunal stressed the deeper impact of the  
employer’s refusal to take her disability into consideration, a refusal “exacerbated by its  
practices and attitudes”:  
[O]n a balance of probabilities, Ms. Green’s self-evaluation that her career was  
“over” was correct. The discriminatory practice of the employer led to ten years of  
employment doldrums for Ms. Green. In her own words, her career had become  
a “job”.  
but for the discriminatory practice of her employer, there is a reasonable  
likelihood that Ms. Green’s career would have bloomed further and promotions  
well beyond the PM-6 level would have moved Ms. Green along her career  
path.600  
598 Nicole Trudel, stenographic notes, February 1, 2005 at 117 and 120.  
599 Quebec (Public Curator) v. Syndicat national des employés de l’hôpital St-Ferdinand [1996] 3 S.C.R.  
211 at para. 121.  
600 Green v. Canada (Public Service Commission), supra note 49.  
 
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[563] Therefore, the Canadian Tribunal ordered the respondents to pay the victim the  
maximum of $5000.00 provided for at the time, in subsection 53(3) of the Canadian  
Human Rights Act,601 if the discriminatory practice was engaged in “wilfully or  
recklessly”.  
[564] In the AFT case,602 the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal concluded that the  
intentional nature of the discriminatory hiring practice was an element relevant to its  
discretion in imposing an affirmative action program or not. Bear in mind that, in light of  
the report prepared at its request on the situation of women in the company, the  
Tribunal concluded that Canadian National established its hiring practices while aware  
of their exclusionary effects.  
[565] As indicated earlier, the Tribunal believes, in the case at bar, that the operational  
staff who designed and administered the recruitment competitions held from 1995 to  
1997 at Gaz Métro did not have the knowledge and, even less so, the expertise  
required to set up an effective process to recruit women for the position of network  
operator.  
[566] As regards the company’s top management, it will be recalled, first, that Gaz  
Métro knew, as of 1989, that it had to correct various hiring rules and practices by  
conducting a criterion-related validation of its selection tests and tools.603 Let me also  
point out its participation in the Federal Contractors Program, set up in the wake of the  
Abella report (1984) and the ruling in Action Travail des Femmes (1987) regarding  
systemic discrimination in employment against women. In that context, Gaz Métro must  
have been aware of the extent of the chronic problem of female under-representation in  
blue-collar jobs and therefore of the need to implement measures capable of remedying  
that complex phenomenon.  
[567] The problem of under-representation still existed in 1995. But when the company  
decided to recruit women on a priority basis, it gave employees untrained in that field  
responsibility for carrying out a recruitment process that, two years later, resulted in a  
trifling number of newly hired women.  
[568] Apart from the role played by Carole Magnan, the evidence of record is silent  
regarding the involvement of top management in the issue, which, as a leader among  
Québec companies, Gaz Métro most certainly should have dealt with more strictly and  
with more professionalism. The Tribunal also noted the complete absence of Gaz Métro  
senior officers at the trial, during which a number of witnesses testified regarding the  
company’s hiring practices and their disproportionately exclusionary effects on female  
candidates for the position of network operator from 1995 to 1997.  
601 Canadian Human Rights Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. H-6.  
602 The AFT case, supra note 35 at para. 19778.  
603 See to that effect the testimony of Carole Magnan, as mentioned in section 3.4.3.  
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[569] For all these reasons, the Tribunal believes that Gaz Métro showed more than  
simple negligence and more than a wild and foolhardy lack of concern. Despite its legal  
obligations, the scope of which it had to realize, the company relied, in a manner of  
speaking, on some of its employees and, despite the absence of conclusive results, it  
let the operations continue with no deep thought about the causes of the difficulties  
encountered or the means to effectively remedy them. In that context, the Tribunal  
believes that the company had to be aware of the [TRANSLATION] “extremely  
probable” consequences of its decisions and acts.  
[570] Accordingly, the victims in this case are entitled to obtain from the defendants  
punitive damages, formerly called “exemplary damages”, because of the exemplary  
nature and the dissuasive effect contemplated by that remedial measure. As regards  
Marie-Claude Côté, who went through a discriminatory process and who was not hired  
because of her pregnancy, the Tribunal awards the full amount of punitive damages  
sought, i.e. $10 000.00. Gaz Métro must also pay $7500.00 to each of the six other  
victims in that regard.  
4.2.4 Employment integration and other measures  
[571] Section 49 of the Charter also provides for the right of a victim of unlawful  
interference to have the interference cease. In cases of discrimination in hiring or during  
employment, its application has given rise to remedial measures distinct from those of  
general law:  
[TRANSLATION]  
In private law, the reinstatement in their employment of employees dismissed in  
a discriminatory manner or relieved of their duties on the ground of a refusal to  
agree to undesired sexual advances is part and parcel of that objective of  
correction of a violation of fundamental rights. To give effect to the novelty of the  
proceedings and applications that may stem from that provision, Québec courts  
have set aside the traditional rule that wrongful dismissal cannot give rise to  
reinstatement by court order. Hence, they have recognized that victims of  
discriminatory dismissal can be reinstated in their employment, such a  
mandatory order being the appropriate means to obtain the cessation of the  
interference with the Charter-protected right.604  
[572] In Larocque,605 the Supreme Court determined the remedial measures that the  
Tribunal could order in a situation where discrimination based on the handicap of a  
applicant for a position as a police officer stemmed from a hiring standard provided for  
in a provincial regulation. In doing so, it considered that the Court of Appeal should not  
have limited itself to a purely declaratory remedy by concluding that no order to cease  
604 Sylvie Gagnon, “Quelques observations critiques sur le droit à une réparation selon la Charte des droits  
et libertés de la personne” in Barreau du Québec and Tribunal des droits de la personne (ed.), La Charte  
des droits et libertés de la personne : Pour qui et jusqu’où? (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2005) 261 at 307-  
308.  
605 Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Communauté urbaine  
de Montréal, [2004] 1 S.C.R. 789.  
 
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the infringement could be issued in the absence of a wrongful act. According to LeBel  
J., with whose reasons the Court agrees:  
[E]nactments such as the Quebec Charter occasionally require intervention that  
is in no way related to the law of civil liability. It is sometimes necessary to put an  
end to actions or change practices or procedures that are incompatible with the  
Quebec Charter even where there is no fault within the meaning of the law of civil  
liability. The law of civil liberties may draw upon the law of civil liability where  
circumstances warrant. The law of delict does not set limits on the enforcement  
of the law of civil liberties. Thus, in the context of seeking appropriate recourse  
before an administrative body or a court of competent jurisdiction, the  
enforcement of this law can lead to the imposition of affirmative or negative  
obligations designed to correct or bring an end to situations that are incompatible  
with the Quebec Charter.606  
[573] In the other jurisdictions in Canada, specialized tribunals responsible for  
awarding restitution in the case of interference with human rights are also empowered  
to order measures to put an end to the interference. As certain authors have noted:  
“Such remedial powers include the power to reinstate and where the individual has lost  
promotional opportunities, the tribunal may even reinstate that person at a higher  
position”.607  
[574] In Uzoaba,608 the division of first instance of the Federal Court upheld an order to  
that effect issued by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, which concluded that  
Correctional Service Canada had evaluated an employee in a discriminatory manner,  
on the ground of his race. Rothstein J., since appointed to the Supreme Court, upheld  
the order to reinstate the employee “on the first reasonable occasion” at a higher level  
than the one he held. Justice Rothstein pointed out, to that end, the precedence of the  
provisions of the Canadian Human Rights Act over those of the federal Public Service  
Employment Act, as well as the fact that the Tribunal issued its order in accordance with  
the evidence available to it:  
[T]he jurisdiction of the Public Service Commission and the process respecting  
promotions within the Public Service must give way in those rare exceptions  
where promotions have been denied based on discriminatory reasons and where  
a Tribunal, acting within its jurisdiction under the Act, orders a promotion in order  
to remedy the results of discriminatory action taken by the employer. …  
606 Ibid. at para. 26. According to the Supreme Court, the appropriate remedy consisted in this case in a  
declaration of the right, along with an order enjoining the defendant to examine the appellant’s candidacy  
without taking his handicap into consideration.  
607 Anne L. MacTavish and Andrew J. F. Lenz, “Civil Actions for Conduct Addressed by Human Rights  
Legislation – Some Recent Substantive and Procedural Developments”, (1996) 4 C.L.E.L.J. 375 at 386.  
608 Canada (Attorney General) v. Uzoaba, (1996) 26 C.H.R.R. D/428 (F.C.).  
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in my view, recognized by the Act, provided the order is circumscribed by the  
limitation “on the first reasonable occasion” and by other limitations in the Act. …  
There was some evidence indicating a serious possibility Dr. Uzoaba would have  
attained the level of WP-5 by the time of the Tribunal’s decision.609  
[575] Green610 also provides an example of that type of remedy in a context of  
systemic discrimination. The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal added to the material  
and punitive damages awarded various other orders including the immediate  
appointment of Ms. Green, without a competition and for an indeterminate duration, to a  
position at a higher level than the one she held; the concomitant payment of the  
corresponding salary even in the case where no position of that nature was available  
immediately; admission to the program of French courses, which she had been denied;  
the removal and elimination from any file held by the employer containing any negative  
prognosis that she had obtained on the language aptitude tests; and her registration for  
a management course adapted to her new position, with a view to her further  
advancement to executive levels in the federal civil service.  
[576] According to the evidence of record in this case, Marie-Claude Côté would have  
been hired as a network operator but for the discrimination against her based on her  
pregnancy. Therefore, the Tribunal finds it wholly appropriate to order Gaz Métro to hire  
her as a network operator or for the current equivalent position, as soon as such a  
position becomes open, with recognition, retroactive to October 1997, of all the rights  
and privileges related to that position, including pension credits and non-competitive  
seniority, in a way that does not affect third party rights.  
[577] As regards the other victims, two of them were rejected in the pre-interview,611  
two others after taking the theoretical examination612 and the last two after taking the  
written examination.613 Given the Tribunal’s conclusions regarding the discriminatory  
nature of the pre-interview and the practical examination, all these candidates were  
subjected to a selection process in which they were likely to be rejected because of the  
discrimination practised at the very start, in the pre-interview, and at the end, in the  
practical examination. In those circumstances, none of these candidates was able to  
demonstrate that she had the qualifications and aptitudes required to perform the duties  
of the position of network operator, or its current equivalent.  
609 Ibid. at paras. 20, 24 and 25.  
610 Green v. Canada (Public Service Commission), supra note 49.  
611 Line Beaudoin and Joan Dupont.  
612 Nicole Trudel and Tania Plourde.  
613 Johanne Bolduc and Shirley Thomas.  
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[578] Therefore, the Tribunal believes that they must be reinstated in a selection  
process free of discriminatory bias, at the stage where they would have been but for the  
discrimination practised against them. Furthermore, Gaz Métro must offer the position of  
network operator or its current equivalent to the women who complete the remaining  
stages in the process, as soon as such a position becomes available.  
SECTION 5. CONCLUSIONS  
CONSIDERING that the defendants, through the recruitment and selection system used  
to fill the positions of network operator/trainee, interfered with the victims’ right to  
equality in employment, contrary to sections 10, 16 and 86 of the Charter of human  
rights and freedoms;  
CONSIDERING that the defendants’ recruitment and hiring process involved systemic  
discrimination that disproportionately excluded women from the manual work of network  
operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
CONSIDERING the defendants’ obligation to provide a discrimination-free workplace  
and to ensure female representation corresponding to the rate of availability of women  
in manual jobs;  
CONSIDERING the need to overhaul the recruitment process, the hiring criteria and the  
selection tools for the position of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, in  
order to:  
eliminate their bias and requirements that are discriminatory in regard to women  
without being warranted by the qualifications and aptitudes required for such a  
position;  
establish an adequate correlation between receiving a higher grade on the hiring  
examinations and better performance;  
allow the recruitment and hiring of female candidates with the qualifications and  
aptitudes required to hold such a position;  
CONSIDERING that the integration of women into non-traditional jobs requires the use  
of tools and working methods adapted to them, while allowing the safe and efficient  
performance of the work of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
FOR THESE REASONS, THE TRIBUNAL:  
ALLOWS the motion in part;  
ORDERS the defendants to:  
 
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des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse, an affirmative  
action program consistent with the prescriptions of the Charter of human  
rights and freedoms and the Regulation respecting Affirmative Action  
Programs, and including in particular the measures hereinafter set out;  
HIRE, on a priority basis, in accordance with the conditions established in  
the said affirmative action program, women with the essential  
qualifications and aptitudes required to perform the work of network  
operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, at a preferential appointment  
rate set at 40%, unless the data collected significantly diverge from those  
analysed by expert witness Erika Boukamp Bosch;  
PREPARE, when recruiting for the position of network operator/trainee, or  
an equivalent position, two lists of candidacies, one of female candidates  
and the other of male candidates with the essential qualifications and  
aptitudes for the job, with the female candidates on each list placed in the  
order determined by the results obtained in the selection tools and  
examinations that have undergone criterion-related validation;  
CEASE requiring that female and male candidates for the position of  
network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, hold a class 3 driver’s  
licence beforehand;  
CEASE requiring that female candidates for the position of network  
operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, have prior experience in a non-  
traditional job;  
ENSURE that the hiring examinations and selection tools undergo  
criterion-related validation so that only the qualifications and aptitudes  
essential to performing the work of network operator/trainee, or an  
equivalent position, are required;  
ADOPT the measures required so that the people in charge of designing  
and administering the interviews and practical examinations have clear  
and specific instructions aimed at treating the female candidates for the  
position of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, without  
discrimination based on sex;  
MODIFY the interview system so as to remove questions with a  
discriminatory effect on female candidates for the position of network  
operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
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from the Bennett test, with a discriminatory effect on female candidates for  
the position of network operator/trainee, or an equivalent position;  
ADAPT to the physical characteristics of women the selection  
examinations, tools and working methods used in recruitment, the  
technical network training program and the position of network  
operator/trainee, or an equivalent position, while making it possible to  
safely and efficiently perform the work in various ways in such a position;  
SET UP a committee to fight sexual and sexist harassment at work, on  
which network operators/trainees and the management of the company  
are represented;  
FILE with the Tribunal, within three (3) months, the said affirmative action  
program containing the measures mentioned in particular, so that it can  
ensure the program is consistent with the Charter of human rights and  
freedoms and the Regulation respecting Affirmative Action Programs and,  
if it is not, that the Tribunal modify the program so that it is;  
AND IN ADDITION, THE TRIBUNAL ORDERS the defendants to:  
PAY Marie-Claude Côté:  
material damages corresponding to six months of salary loss  
incurred as of October 1997, the amount to be established in  
accordance with the report of public accountant Marc Fortier;  
should she sustain an adverse tax impact, an additional amount  
will be established according to the method of expert Richard  
Joly to compensate for it;  
PAY Johanne Bolduc and Shirley Thomas $10 000.00 in material  
damages for the loss of a chance to demonstrate their aptitudes and  
qualifications to hold employment as a network operator/trainee without  
being subject to a selection process containing discriminatory bias;  
PAY Line Beaudoin, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Nicole Trudel and Tania  
Plourde $5000.00 in material damages for the loss of a chance to  
demonstrate their aptitudes and qualifications to hold employment as a  
network operator/trainee without being subject to a selection process  
containing discriminatory bias;  
PAY Marie-Claude Côté $20 000.00 to compensate for the moral  
prejudice she sustained because of discrimination against her based on  
sex and pregnancy;  
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PAY Line Beaudoin, Johanne Bolduc, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Tania  
Plourde and Shirley Thomas $15 000.00 to compensate for the moral  
prejudice they sustained because of discrimination against them based on  
sex;  
PAY Nicole Trudel $10 000.00 to compensate for the moral prejudice she  
sustained because of discrimination against her based on sex;  
PAY Marie-Claude Côté $10 000.00 because of the intentional nature of  
the unlawful interference with her right not to be subjected to hiring  
discrimination based on sex and pregnancy;  
PAY Shirley Thomas, Line Bolduc, Line Beaudoin, Johanne (Joan)  
Dupont, Tania Plourde and Nicole Trudel $7500.00 because of the  
intentional nature of the unlawful interference with their right not to be  
subjected to hiring discrimination based on sex;  
HIRE Marie-Claude Côté for a position as network operator/trainee, or an  
equivalent position, as soon as a position is open, with recognition  
retroactive to October 1997 of all the rights and privileges related to that  
position, including non-competitive seniority and pension credits;  
REINSTATE in a discrimination-free selection process Shirley Thomas,  
Line Bolduc, Line Beaudoin, Johanne (Joan) Dupont, Tania Plourde  
and Nicole Trudel, at the stage where they would have been but for the  
discrimination against them and, should they qualify, OFFER them  
positions as a network operator/trainee, or its current equivalent, as soon  
as such positions are open;  
THE WHOLE with interest and the additional indemnity, in accordance  
with article 1619 C.C.Q., as of service of the proposed remedial  
measures, as well as full costs, including any cost of expert evidence, for  
the presence of the experts in court and for the preparation of their  
reports.  
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Michèle Rivet, President  
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Mtre. Béatrice Vizkelety  
Mtre. Athanassia Bitzakidis  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse  
360, rue Saint-Jacques, 3e étage  
Montréal (Québec) H2Y 1P5  
For the Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse Plaintiff  
Mtre. Pierre-L. Baribeau  
Mtre. Véronique Morin  
Lavery, de Billy  
1, Place Ville-Marie, # 4000  
Montréal (Québec) H3B 4M4  
For Gaz Métropolitain Inc and  
Gaz Métropolitain Limited Partnership Defendants  
Mtre. Annick Desjardins  
Canadian Union of Public Employees  
565, boulevard Crémazie Est, # 7100  
Montréal (Québec) H2M 2N9  
For Action travail des femmes du Québec Inc. Complainant before the Commission  
des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse  
Mtre. Suzanne P. Boivin  
200, avenue Laurier Ouest, # 475  
Montréal (Québec) H2T 2N8  
For Mtre. Rachel Cox, counsel for Action travail des femmes du Québec Inc. –  
Complainant before the Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse  
Mtre. Lise Lanno  
Pépin & Roy  
2100, boulevard de Maisonneuve Est, # 501  
Montréal (Québec) H2K 4S1  
For the Syndicat des employés de Gaz Métropolitain Inc (CSN) Interested party  
2004-10-25/2004-11-01/2005-01-31/2005-02-01 to 2005-02-03/2005-02-07 to 2005-02-09/2005-02-11/2005-02-  
15 to 2005-02-18/2005-02-21/2005-02-25/2005-02-28/2005-03-01/2005-03-04/2005-03-15/2005-05-30 and  
Hearing dates:  
2005-05-31/2005-06-01/2005-06-09/2006-01-16 to 2006-01-18/2006-01-24 to 2006-01-27/2006-02-07/2006-02-  
09/2006-02-17/2006-02-22/2006-04-18 to 2006-04-20/2006-06-19 and 2006-06-20/2006-09-11 to 2006-09-  
15/2006-10-10 and 2006-10-11/2006-12-08/2006-12-12/ 2007-01-09 and 2007-01-10/2007-01-12  
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AUTHORITIES AS CITED BY THE PLAINTIFF,  
THE COMMISSION DES DROITS DE LA PERSONNE ET DES DROITS DE LA  
JEUNESSE  
Canadian Human Rights Commission and Chopra v. Department of National Health and  
Welfare, (1998) CHRR D/98-057;  
Canadian National Railway Co. v. Canada (Canadian Human Rights Commission),  
[1987] 1 S.C.R. 1114;  
Commission des droits de la personne du Québec v. Commission scolaire régionale  
Chauveau, [1993] R.J.Q. 929 (QC T.D.P.);  
Commission scolaire régionale Chauveau v. Commission des droits de la personne du  
Québec, [1994] R.J.Q. 1196 (C.A.);  
British Columbia (Public Service Employee Relations Commission) v. BCGSEU, [1999]  
3 S.C.R. 3;  
Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v.  
Montreal (City); Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse) v. Boisbriand (City), [2000] 1 S.C.R. 665;  
Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC), Policy and Guidelines on Racism and  
Racial Discrimination, June 9, 2005, 43, http://www.ohrc.on.ca;  
C. Agocs, Racisme émergeant en milieu de travail: Preuve qualitatives et quantitatives  
d’une discrimination systémique, (2004) 3: 3 Diversité canadienne 27;  
Action travail des femmes v. Canadian National, (1984) 5 C.H.R.R. D/2327 (C.H.R.T.);  
Central Okanagan School District No. 23 v. Renaud, [1992] 2 S.C.R. 970;  
Premakumar v. Air Canada, D.T.E. 2002T-659 (C.H.R.T.);  
Law v. Canada (Minister of Employment and Immigration), [1999] 1 S.C.R. 497;  
Council of Canadians with Disabilities v. VIA Rail Canada Inc., 2007 SCC 15;  
Société de l’assurance automobile du Québec v. Commission des droits de la personne  
et des droits de la jeunesse, [2005] R.J.Q. 11 (C.A.);  
Ontario Human Rights Commission v. Etobicoke, [1982] 1 S.C.R. 202;  
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Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse v. Industries  
acadiennes inc., [2006] R.J.D.T. 473 (QC T.D.P.);  
Université Laval v. Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse,  
[2005] R.J.Q. 347 (C.A.);  
Doucet-Boudreau v. Nova Scotia (Minister of Education), [2003] 3 S.C.R. 3;  
Sinclair v. Bacon, [1994] R.J.Q. 289 (C.A.);  
Québec (Comm. des droits de la personne) v. Société d’électrolyse et de chimie Alcan  
ltée, [1987] D.L.Q. 340 (C.A.);  
Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v.  
Communauté urbaine de Montréal, [2004] 1 S.C.R. 789;  
Roy v. Québec (Ministère des Transports), [1994] C.A.L.P. 1645; Montréal (Ville de)  
and Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique, section locale 301, D.T.E. 97T-1078  
(T.A.);  
Jean-Louis Baudouin and Patrice Deslauriers, La responsabilité civile, 5th ed.,  
(Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 1998);  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse v. Québec  
(Procureur général), [2005] R.J.D.T. 1110 (QC T.D.P.);  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse v. Nicolet (Ville de),  
[2001] R.J.Q. 2735 (QC T.D.P.);  
Malhab v. Métromédia C.M.R. Montréal inc., [2003] R.J.Q. 1011 (C.A.);  
Syndicat des employées et employés de métiers d’Hydro-Québec, section locale 1500  
(SCFP-FTQ) v. Fontaine, J.E. 2007-149 (C.A.);  
Quebec (Public Curator) v. Syndicat national des employés de l’Hôpital St-Ferdinand,  
[1996] 3 S.C.R. 211.  
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AUTHORITIES AS CITED BY THE DEFENDANTS,  
GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN INC. AND GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN LIMITED PARTNERSHIP  
(1)  
DISCRIMINATION:  
ACCOMMODATION  
NOTION,  
PRESUMPTION  
AND  
REASONABLE  
Action Travail des Femmes v. Canadian National, (1984) 5 C.H.R.R. D/2327;  
Action Travail des Femmes v. Canadian National, [1987] 1 S.C.R.;  
Anctil and industries Malbec inc., D.T.E. 2005T-279 (C.R.T.);  
Andrews v. Law Society of British Columbia, [1989] 1 S.C.R. 143;  
Calgary (City) vs. Weitmann, (2001) 45 C.H.R.R.D/155;  
Central Okanagan School District No. 23 v. Renaud, [1992] 2 S.C.R. 970;  
McGill University Health Centre (Montréal General Hospital) v. Syndicat des employés  
de l’hôpital Général de Montréal, [2007] SCC 4;  
British Columbia (Public Service Employee Relations Commission) v. BCGSEU, [1999]  
3 S.C.R. 3;  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse v. Institut Demers  
inc., [1999] R.J.Q. 3101;  
Ont. Human Rights Comm. v. Simpsons-Sears Ltd., [1985] 2 S.C.R. 536;  
Commission scolaire régionale de Chambly v. Bergevin, [1994] 2 S.C.R. 525;  
Commission scolaire St-Jean-sur-Richelieu v. Commission des droits de la personne du  
Québec, [1994] R.J.Q. 1227 (C.A.);  
Compagnie Minière Québec-Cartier v. Commission des droits de la personne du  
Québec, REJB 1998-0915 (C.A.);  
Council of Canadians with Disabilities v. VIA Rail Canada Inc., 2007 SCC 15;  
Drolet v. Lelièvre, R.E.J.B. 2001-27488 (S.C.);  
Hadji v. Montréal (Ville de), D.T.E. 96T-1321 (T.D.P.);  
J. (M.) vs. Companion, (2002) 214 NFLD. *P.E.I.R. 183. (C.A.);  
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Lavoie v. Boudreau, J.E. 84-736 (C.A.);  
Longpré v. Thériault, [1979] C.A. 258;  
Morris vs Canada (Armed Forces), 2001 CarswellNat 3502 (C.H.R.T.);  
Premakumar v. Air Canada, 2002 IIJCan 23561 (C.H.R.T.);  
Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v.  
Montréal (City); Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la  
jeunesse) v. Boisbriand (City), [2000] 1 S.C.R. 665;  
Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse) v. Quebec  
(Attorney General), [2004] 2 S.C.R. 185;  
Québec (Ville de) v. C.D.P., [1989] R.J.Q. 831 (C.A.);  
Rousseau v. Tremblay, R.E.J.B. 2001-23051 (S.C.);  
Syndicat québécois des employées et employés de service, section locale 298 (F.T.Q.)  
and Sœurs de la présentation de Marie, province of Montréal, D.T.E. 2005T-942 (T.A.);  
Syndicat des professionnelles et professionnels du réseau de la santé et des services  
sociaux de l’Outaouais (CSN) and CLSC de Hull, D.T.E. 2002T-1025 (T.A.);  
Syndicat québécois des employées et employés de service, section locale 298 (F.T.Q.)  
and Centre d’hébergement St-Georges, D.T.E. 2006T-942 (T.A.);  
Vallée v. Commission scolaire Vallée-de-Mistassini, D.T.E. 95T-982 (T.D.P.).  
(2)  
THE “CLEAN HANDS” DOCTRINE  
Galvan Metal inc. v. Ville de Saint-Léonard, EYB 1989-76788 (S.C.);  
Syndicat des employés de magasins et de bureau de la Société des alcools du Québec  
v. Société des alcools du Québec, EYB 1992-75078 (S.C.);  
Trudel v. Clairol Inc. of Canada, [1975] 2 S.C.R. 237.  
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(3) SPECIAL STATUS OF THE COMMISSION AS A GOVERNMENT  
INVESTIGATIVE ORGANIZATION ACTING AS PROSECUTOR  
Alberta Human Rights and Citizenship Commission v. Alberta Motor Association, [1998]  
A.G. No. 1375;  
Anonuevo v. General Motors of Canada Ltd. (No. 3), (1998) 32 C.H.R.R. D/322;  
Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse v. Centre de la petite  
enfance Les Pandamis (Gardeurois), 2006 QC T.D.P. 11;  
IMP Group Ltd. v. Dillman, [1995] N.S.J. No. 326, (C.A.);  
Ontario (Human Rights Commission) v. Ontario (Board of Inquiry into Northwestern  
General Hospital), [1994] 115 D.L.R. (4th) 279;  
Morris Manning, “Abuse of Power by Crown Attorneys” in The Abuse of Power and the  
Role of the Independent Judicial System in its Regulation and Control (Richard de Boo  
Limited, 1979) (excerpts).  
(4) IMPARTIALITY AND OBJECTIVITY REQUIRED OF AN EXPERT  
Beaudoin v. Banque de développement du Canada, REJB 2004-54067 (S.C.);  
Béchard, Donald, L’expert : recevabilité, qualification et force probante (Congrès annuel  
du Barreau du Québec 2002);  
Couture v. Général Accident, REJB 2000-19815 (S.C.);  
Fortin v. Compagnie d’assurances Wellington, B.E. 2000BE-416 (S.C.);  
M. (D.) v. B. (D.), REJB 1999-11836 (S.C.);  
Poulin v. R., [1975] C.A. 682;  
Protection de la jeunesse 763, J.E. 95-1202 (C.Q.);  
Royer, Jean-Claude, La preuve civile, 3rd ed. (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais).  
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(5) THE AMERICAN FOUR-FIFTHS RULE (EEOC)  
W. Biedzynski, Kenneth et al., American Jurisprudence: A Modern Comprehensive Text  
Statement of American Law, 2nd ed., Thomson West, Volume 45A, Job discrimination,  
2002 at 410-413;  
Clady v. County of Los Angeles, 70 F. 2d 1421, United States Tribunal of Appeals for  
the Ninth Circuit (1985);  
Jones v. Pepsi-Cola Metropolitan Bottling Company, 871 F. Supp. 305 United States  
Tribunal for the District of Michigan (1994);  
Perez v. Pavex Corp., 2007 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 6092 U.S. District Tribunal for the Middle  
District of Florida, Tampa Division (2007);  
Spence v. City of Philadelphia, 2004 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 28996 (2004), (affirmed by the  
Tribunal of Appeal for the Third Circuit, 2005 U.S. App. LEXIS 19728).  
(6)  
DAMAGES  
CDPDJ v. Centre hospitalier de l’Université de Montréal, Pavillon Notre-Dame, D.T.E.  
2000T-1006;  
CDPDJ v. Garderie en milieu familial des petits Anges, [2004] R.J.Q. 2335;  
CDPDJ v. Montréal (Ville de), [2000] R.J.Q. 2151;  
CDPDJ v. Nicolet (Ville de), [2001] R.J.Q. 2735;  
CDPDJ v. Montréal (Services de police de la Communauté urbaine de), [2002] R.J.Q.  
824;  
CDPDJ v. Sûreté du Québec, D.T.E. 2000T-634;  
CDPDJ v. Québec (Procureur Général), [2005] R.J.D.T. 1110.  
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AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT OF THE ADDITIONAL NOTES, AS CITED BY THE  
DEFENDANTS, GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN INC.  
AND GAZ MÉTROPOLITAIN LIMITED PARTNERSHIP  
British Columbia (Superintendent of Motor Vehicles) v. British Columbia (Council of  
Human Rights), [1993] 3 S.C.R. 863;  
Canadian Egg Marketing Agency v. Richardson, [1998] 3 S.C.R. 157;  
Health Services and Support Facilities Subsector Bargaining Assn. v. British  
Columbia, 2007 SCC 27;  
Canada (Human Rights Commission) v. Canadian Airlines International Limited, [2006]  
1 S.C.R. 3, 2006 SCC 1.  
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Legislation  
Canadian Human Rights Act, R.S.C. 1985, v. H-6;  
Regulation respecting Affirmative Action Programs, R.Q. c. C-12, r.0.1.  
Jurisprudence  
National Capital Alliance on Race Relations v. Canada (Department of Health &  
Welfare), [1997] IIJCan 1433 (C.H.R.T.);  
Public Service Alliance of Canada v. Canada (Treasury Board), [1996] IIJCan 1874  
(C.H.R.T.);  
Public Service Alliance of Canada v. Canada (Department of National Defence), [1996]  
F.C.A. No. 842;  
Ayangma v. Govt. of PEI, [2000] P.E.I.J. No. 97, (2000) PESCTD 74;  
Brome v. Ontario (Human Rights Commission), (1999) 171 D.L.R. (4th) 538 (Ont. Div.  
Ct.);  
Brossard (Town) v. Quebec (Commission des droits de la personne), [1988] 2 S.C.R.  
279;  
Canada (Attorney General) v. Uzoaba, (1996) 26 C.H.R.R. D/428 (F.C.);  
CDPDJ (Stortini) c. De Luxe Produits de papier Inc., D.T.E. 2003T-288 (QC. T.D.P);  
Central Alberta Dairy Pool v. Alberta Human Rights Commission, [1990] 2 S.C.R. 489;  
Charpentier v. Compagnie d’assurances Standard Life, 2001 1478;  
Commission scolaire des Samares v. Commission des droits de la personne et des  
droits de la jeunesse, [2000] R.J.Q. 2542 (C.A.);  
Dufour v. Centre hospitalier St-Joseph-de-la-Malbaie, [1992] R.J.Q. 825 at 843;  
Green v. Public Service Commission of Canada, 1998 2101(C.H.R.T.);  
Laferrière v. Lawson [1991] 1 S.C.R. 541;  
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Radek v. Henderson Development (Canada) and Securiguard Services (No. 3), [2005]  
B.C.H.R.T.D. No. 302, 2005 BCHRT 302;  
St-Jean v. Mercier, [2002] 1 S.C.R. 491;  
Syme v. Canada [1993] 4 S.C.R. 695;  
Tahmourpour v. Canada (Solicitor General), [2005] F.C.A. No. 543, 2005 FCA 113.  
Doctrine  
Abella, Rosalie Silberman, Report of the Commission on Equality in Employment  
(Ottawa: Supply and Services Canada, 1984);  
Canadian Bar Association, Touchstones for Change: Equality, Diversity and Accountability  
(1993);  
Sheilagh Day and Gwen Brodsky, “The Duty to Accommodate: Who will benefit?”  
(1993) Can. Bar Rev. 433;  
Gagnon, Sylvie, “Quelques observations critiques sur le droit à une réparation selon la  
Charte des droits et libertés de la personne”, in Barreau du Québec and Tribunal des  
droits de la personne (ed.), La Charte des droits et libertés de la personne : Pour qui et  
jusqu’où ? (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2005);  
Anne L. MacTavish and Andrew J. F. Lenz, “Civil Actions for Conduct Addressed by  
Human Rights Legislation Some Recent Substantive and Procedural Developments”,  
(1996) 4 C.L.E.L.J. 375;  
Masse, Chantal, “Le critère unifié de l’affaire Meiorin dans le contexte de la défense  
prévue à l’article 20 de la Charte québécoise: la non-application du volet subjectif relatif  
à la bonne foi de l’employeur”, in Barreau du Québec, Les 25 ans de la Charte  
québécoise (Cowansville, Qc.: Yvon Blais, 2000) at 65;  
Colleen Sheppard, “Of Forest Fires and Systemic Discrimination: A Review of British  
Colombia (Public Service Employee Relations Commission) v. B.C.G.S.E.U.” (2001) 46  
McGill L.J. 533.  


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