Form 4
1. Name and Address of Reporting Person -- Kellogg, Peter
R.
C/O Spear, Leeds & Kellogg
120 Broadway
New York, New York 10271
2. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol-- National
Discount Brokers Group, Inc. ("NDB")
3. IRS or Social Security Number of Reporting Person
(Voluntary)
4. Statement for Month/Year - October, 2000
5. If Amendment, Date of Original (Month/Year)
6. Relationship of Reporting Person to Issuer -- 10% Owner
Table I - Non-Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of,
or Beneficially Owned
1. Title of Security -- Common Stock $.01 Par Value
2. Transaction Date. -- October 11, 2000.
3. Transaction Code -- G.
4. Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed of (D)
Amount = 11,000.
(A) or (D) = A.
Charitable Gift to J.C. Kellogg Foundation.
2. Transaction Date. -- October 26, 2000.
3. Transaction Code -- G.
4. Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed of (D)
Amount = 4,000
(A) or (D) = (A)
Charitable Gift to the Peter R. and Cynthia K.
Kellogg Foundation.
5. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned at End of Month
= 730,942.
6. Ownership Form -- (D).
7. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership -- N/A.
5. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned at End of Month
=1,850,000.
6. Ownership Form -- (I).
7. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership Nature of
Indirect Beneficial Ownership -- I.A.T. Reinsurance
Syndicate Ltd., a Bermuda Corporation of which Mr. Kellogg
is the sole holder of voting stock. Mr. Kellogg disclaims
beneficial ownership of these shares.
5. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned at End of Month
= 350,500.
6. Ownership Form (I).
7. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership -- Peter R. and
Cynthia K. Kellogg Foundation. Mr. Kellogg disclaims
beneficial ownership of these shares.
8. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned at End of Month
= 23,780.
9. Ownership Form (I).
10. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership -JC Kellogg
Foundation. Mr. Kellogg disclaims beneficial ownership of
these shares.
Table II - Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or
Beneficially Owned
(e.g., puts, calls, warrants, options, convertible
securities)
1. Title of Derivative Security. N/A.
2. Conversion or Exercise Price of Derivative Security. N/A.
3. Transaction Date. N/A.
4. Transaction Code. N/A.
5. Number of Derivative Securities Acquired or Disposed N/A.
6. Date Exercisable and Expiration Date N/A.
7. Title and Amount of Underlying Securities N/A.
8. Price of Derivative Securities N/A.
9. Number of Derivative Securities Beneficially Owned at End
of Month N/A.
10.Ownership Form of Derivative Security
N/A.
11.Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership N/A.
Dated: November 8, 2000 Peter R. Kellogg
Peter R. Kellogg
